Ryan Holiday

These borders are made up.

And again, you have a legal obligation to enforce them, but it doesn't mean that the person on the other side of that border doesn't exist or doesn't matter and isn't.

Yeah, yeah.

Canada goes way up.

It does.

And nobody's there.

Nobody's there.

Yeah.

Well, then to go to Marcus's point about history, I mean, what is interesting is that 100 years ago, that wouldn't have been the case.

Nope.

150 years ago wouldn't have been the case.

Like, I mean, there are parts of Texas here that less than 100 years ago didn't have electricity.

Yeah.

And so to think about how, you know, in the big clock of all of human history, what a tiny sliver a lot of these things we take for granted actually are.

You could look at everything that's happening in the world and be really excited.

You could look at everything that's happening in the world and be absolutely horrified.

It's kind of somewhere in the middle probably is the right view.

If you're 21 right now, what have you seen work really well?

In your lifetime, you've kind of seen people screw it up over and over and over again, largely at your expense, not so much at their expense, but at your expense.

Yeah.