Sam Pinkleton

Which was... Yeah, that's crazy.

It was the most incredible icebreaker.

It was so incredible.

And I'm not just saying this because I'm on the Vogue podcast.

Like, Tawny and Norman...

got it on a molecular level.

And I have to be honest, like I was like, oh dear, we're going to do this shoot before we've made the show.

And like that feels really tricky because we don't know what, you know.

And we were able to talk in advance in this like purely creative way.

And I just felt like they understood it at the root.

And I feel like I certainly came into it with a fair amount of fear on the day.

Yeah.

And I saw everybody and I saw all of the stuff and I was like, oh, it's like the DNA of the thing we're doing somehow.

I actually feel like that shoot set a path for making the show in a way that I didn't totally expect.

Oh, I remember there was a moment you got off the elevator in that leotard and those heels and those pearls and were strutting towards me.

And you went into the room with Norman and I texted Anitaj, the choreographer, and I said, we're going to be just fine.

It was incredible.

It was like this arrival of like, okay, there's no turning back.

We were able to really actually be impulsive and creative in a way that I didn't know

Like remember that photo of us that ended up getting published?