Sarah Jolly Jarvis

No, because the stuff wasn't flowing and you weren't actually able to think straight. No. Yeah. So how do people know what's normal? So we're talking about, oh, you know, like we're normalizing and you're right. Like people do like, I'm overwhelmed, I'm stressed. And it's like, it's just a normal thing we say.

No, because the stuff wasn't flowing and you weren't actually able to think straight. No. Yeah. So how do people know what's normal? So we're talking about, oh, you know, like we're normalizing and you're right. Like people do like, I'm overwhelmed, I'm stressed. And it's like, it's just a normal thing we say.

No, because the stuff wasn't flowing and you weren't actually able to think straight. No. Yeah. So how do people know what's normal? So we're talking about, oh, you know, like we're normalizing and you're right. Like people do like, I'm overwhelmed, I'm stressed. And it's like, it's just a normal thing we say.

And actually, before we started recording, we were talking about like the whole, I'm busy, you know, like my default for anybody used to be, you know, if somebody said, how's things or how are you? I'd be like, oh, you know, busy.

And actually, before we started recording, we were talking about like the whole, I'm busy, you know, like my default for anybody used to be, you know, if somebody said, how's things or how are you? I'd be like, oh, you know, busy.

And actually, before we started recording, we were talking about like the whole, I'm busy, you know, like my default for anybody used to be, you know, if somebody said, how's things or how are you? I'd be like, oh, you know, busy.

yeah and everyone would be like oh yeah yeah yeah me too I'm so busy and it's and it's it was like that we feel like I think as business owners as well but also in employment you feel like oh if I'm busy I'm I'm doing a good job I'm doing well I definitely feel like I think as an employee you have to justify what you're being paid to do yeah and I think I know me for me as a business owner it's like well

yeah and everyone would be like oh yeah yeah yeah me too I'm so busy and it's and it's it was like that we feel like I think as business owners as well but also in employment you feel like oh if I'm busy I'm I'm doing a good job I'm doing well I definitely feel like I think as an employee you have to justify what you're being paid to do yeah and I think I know me for me as a business owner it's like well

yeah and everyone would be like oh yeah yeah yeah me too I'm so busy and it's and it's it was like that we feel like I think as business owners as well but also in employment you feel like oh if I'm busy I'm I'm doing a good job I'm doing well I definitely feel like I think as an employee you have to justify what you're being paid to do yeah and I think I know me for me as a business owner it's like well

Well, I think there is that when people that you've got two camps with it, the people who are going, it's really hard. It's a massive slog. You've got to do like 80 hour weeks, which I was like, well, that doesn't not going to work, is it? And then you've got the other lot going, oh, you know, I just, you know, it's like three hours a week and I'm a multimillionaire, which also doesn't work.

Well, I think there is that when people that you've got two camps with it, the people who are going, it's really hard. It's a massive slog. You've got to do like 80 hour weeks, which I was like, well, that doesn't not going to work, is it? And then you've got the other lot going, oh, you know, I just, you know, it's like three hours a week and I'm a multimillionaire, which also doesn't work.

Well, I think there is that when people that you've got two camps with it, the people who are going, it's really hard. It's a massive slog. You've got to do like 80 hour weeks, which I was like, well, that doesn't not going to work, is it? And then you've got the other lot going, oh, you know, I just, you know, it's like three hours a week and I'm a multimillionaire, which also doesn't work.

And so it's kind of, that's the thing is, is it's difficult, isn't it? To see, because I struggle, like I haven't got, my mum used to work, but she didn't,

And so it's kind of, that's the thing is, is it's difficult, isn't it? To see, because I struggle, like I haven't got, my mum used to work, but she didn't,

And so it's kind of, that's the thing is, is it's difficult, isn't it? To see, because I struggle, like I haven't got, my mum used to work, but she didn't,

And the thing is, if you carry on on that trajectory, what is the potential?

And the thing is, if you carry on on that trajectory, what is the potential?

And the thing is, if you carry on on that trajectory, what is the potential?

Yeah. And then what should they do if they find and you do have a resource on this, don't you?

Yeah. And then what should they do if they find and you do have a resource on this, don't you?