Sarah Kreps

I think it's a great question, and I think that's the reluctance of Anthropic, which is that the U.S.

has been saying all we want is to use AI, use cloud for any lawful use, and it's not lawful to use autonomous weapons, and it's not lawful to do mass surveillance, so what's the problem here?

I think the worry probably from the perspective of Anthropic is that slippery slope.

What does it mean to be fully autonomous?

What does it mean to do mass surveillance?

And so I think that's what they think is gray area that they want to be very careful about.

And I think the view has been that they would rather be trying to influence safe use of AI from the inside rather than take a sanctimonious perspective and be on the outside and not be able to influence

the implementation and deployment of AI.

And so I think that's what they're trying to do.

And so for the Anthropix leverage, I think, is that their model is really good and that the Pentagon wants to use it.

So my expectation would be that they probably will find some middle ground here before 5 p.m.

today.

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