Seamus McGrath

But look, I do understand here some of the concerns may come from neighbouring properties and so on like that.

There will be rules around that in terms of the distance, the neighbouring boundaries, in terms of the height, in terms of the square area, and in terms of what garden space has to remain.

You can't build on every inch of your garden, for example.

There will be rules around that.

But in terms of the tenants' protection, and I understand that is...

central discussion here in terms of what provisions there are for tenants currently David there's nothing stopping you or me if we have the space in our garden from building a room onto our house and renting it out on the rented room scheme that is the current rules that are in place and we can do that but you'd have to get planning permission yes of course you'd have to get planning permission but what we're doing here is going over and above that we are including a strict certification process by professionals in the construction field so that they can confirm that these units are up to standard from a building regs point of view

Yeah, look, first of all, I somewhat welcome Eoin's contribution there.

It doesn't appear to be outright opposition to this.

And he's called for scrutiny and he's called for detailed discussion, which I would certainly try to facilitate.

Obviously, we do want to progress with this because we are under severe pressure to provide additional accommodation.

And if we can work together on that, I'm sure we can facilitate that level of scrutiny.

Absolutely.

In terms of the delays that Eoin mentioned there, I think that's a good thing.

This is not rushed by government.

We have thought about this very carefully.

We have considered this inside out and we are trying to come up with a set of proposals that will work.

We do have to increase rental accommodation provision.

We have to provide options to tenants.

As I said, the current rental room scheme works quite well.

It provides options for certain tenants, such as short-term tenants, individuals, students and so on.