Seth Gruber

And by the way, the French Revolution is basically a modern reprise of the fall of Rome.

It's the same issues that you see all over again.

And we'll get into some of that.

But there were Jacobins who were basically thinking, hey, what we're doing in the Palais Royale with the Marquis de Sade in the French Revolution, what we're doing is we're just doing what America did in 1776.

And Hamilton despised that anyone was comparing the French Revolution, which was 76, 86, 96.

The French Revolution starts in 89.

So like, you know, less than 20 years after the 1776.

And he compared it as the difference between liberty and licentiousness.

He said, I am glad to acknowledge and believe that there is no real resemblance between what was the cause of America and what was the cause of France, and that the difference is no less great than the difference between liberty and licentiousness.

And that's what we've done in the conservative movement and even in the church is we have confused liberty with license or with licentiousness so that I lose donors when I speak against big fertility or in vitro fertilization, because even pro-life Christian thinks that this is somehow a blessing of liberty.

Oh, boy.

Okay.

So let's open up that can of worms, Allie.

I'm glad you asked that.

Augustine wrote, always unrelatable.

Augustine wrote in The City of God, a man has as many masters as he has vices.

Okay.

So what does that mean?

I guess that means that by promoting vice,

the regime promotes slavery, which can then be fashioned into a form of political control.