Shahroo Izadi

What made me do that?

Singing.

Because when I was a kid, I used to stammer.

I still do to some degree and singing helped and it made me calm.

So I got a karaoke microphone.

At the beginning, I used to take myself to karaoke booth by myself.

And more and more, I was like, you can redefine this stuff, Shereen.

This is common sense stuff.

You know, be still, be kind, know yourself, notice your patterns.

And all these different evidence bases were saying it in different ways.

You know what it was, Davina?

It was acknowledging kind of the higher power thing, right?

Higher power is a concept that's often contentious when people talk about Alcoholics Anonymous and the other 12-step programs because it suggests that you need to be religious and the word God comes up in some of the literature.

I saw higher power originally when I was trying to reframe it for people because I saw the power of it, but I saw it was putting people off.

And so I just thought what you've acknowledged is that there are times when you're not going to want to make the best decision available to you.

And you're going to need to hand your decisions over to higher power or the version of yourself that is sitting in front of me right now that wants to change.

Someone that cares for you.

Yeah, access that self-compassion.

And so higher power could be accessing a version of yourself.

Yes.