Shané Oosthuizen

I also just feel like it's this amazing mishmash of all of the kind of YA fantasy tropes that we, as we were talking about, grew up reading.

Cassie Clare, you know, Leigh Bardugo, Sarah J Maas, the early and the late years.

I think it's just got that kind of addictive quality with all of these fun tropes and like themes, but kind of packaged up in a different way.

So I'm excited to talk about it more.

Absolutely.

I mean, it's what, it's about a 500 or 600 page book as most of them are, but it did not feel like that.

I mean, I do love them and I love the kind of place that they have in the genre.

I will say that occasionally, like you do want to be a bit more surprised.

So I think that there's that, you know, you need both.

You need your romantic books that kind of give you that kind of feeling that you're looking for when you want an enemies to lovers.

And that's how it's marketed.

You're like, this is what I'm going to get.

It's amazing because sometimes you just want that, you know, that's going to tickle that part of your brain.

But I think equally that's why it's great to have so much choice in fantasy at the moment because there are books of all sorts.

Like there are some that kind of turn the tropes on their head or are completely not what you expect.

Show me the heist.

Yes.

Yeah, no.

I mean, it's literally life and death for a while.

And it did feel like that whole scaling the wall part was terrifying.