Steve

Yeah. You see, I'm a child of the 1960s. Hmm. My undergraduate work went from 1965 to 69. I was exposed to the human potential movement. I was exposed to psychedelics. You were in college during the Vietnam War? Yes. The University of Wisconsin. Oh, wow. I did a senior honors thesis on the psychology of religious mysticism. So I was very aware of the literature at that point.

Yeah. You see, I'm a child of the 1960s. Hmm. My undergraduate work went from 1965 to 69. I was exposed to the human potential movement. I was exposed to psychedelics. You were in college during the Vietnam War? Yes. The University of Wisconsin. Oh, wow. I did a senior honors thesis on the psychology of religious mysticism. So I was very aware of the literature at that point.

I had just chosen a career path that was different. Right. It's one thing to have an avocational interest in the paranormal and mysticism. It's another thing and a much more difficult thing to pursue it professionally.

I had just chosen a career path that was different. Right. It's one thing to have an avocational interest in the paranormal and mysticism. It's another thing and a much more difficult thing to pursue it professionally.

I had just chosen a career path that was different. Right. It's one thing to have an avocational interest in the paranormal and mysticism. It's another thing and a much more difficult thing to pursue it professionally.

Lovely person and one of the most articulate human beings I'd ever known.

Lovely person and one of the most articulate human beings I'd ever known.

Lovely person and one of the most articulate human beings I'd ever known.

Worked together, but- Gosh, it's been so long.

Worked together, but- Gosh, it's been so long.

Worked together, but- Gosh, it's been so long.

You know, I did those early programs in the San Francisco Bay Area. Right. And Terrence was there, and so many of the people I interviewed were there. I used to think of the Bay Area as the capital of the consciousness movement. What year did you interview him? Oh, it would have been in the 1980s. What? Okay, in the 80s. 80s, maybe 90s.

You know, I did those early programs in the San Francisco Bay Area. Right. And Terrence was there, and so many of the people I interviewed were there. I used to think of the Bay Area as the capital of the consciousness movement. What year did you interview him? Oh, it would have been in the 1980s. What? Okay, in the 80s. 80s, maybe 90s.

You know, I did those early programs in the San Francisco Bay Area. Right. And Terrence was there, and so many of the people I interviewed were there. I used to think of the Bay Area as the capital of the consciousness movement. What year did you interview him? Oh, it would have been in the 1980s. What? Okay, in the 80s. 80s, maybe 90s.

The TV program that I hosted, the original Thinking Allowed series, ran from 1986 to 2002.

The TV program that I hosted, the original Thinking Allowed series, ran from 1986 to 2002.

The TV program that I hosted, the original Thinking Allowed series, ran from 1986 to 2002.

Well, I think so.

Well, I think so.

Well, I think so.