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And where he began doing other work, like looking at UFO propulsion and things of that sort. The program was taken over by Ed May, who was a physicist, brought into the program, and also a Scientologist, brought into the program by Ingo Swann. Okay, okay.

And where he began doing other work, like looking at UFO propulsion and things of that sort. The program was taken over by Ed May, who was a physicist, brought into the program, and also a Scientologist, brought into the program by Ingo Swann. Okay, okay.

And where he began doing other work, like looking at UFO propulsion and things of that sort. The program was taken over by Ed May, who was a physicist, brought into the program, and also a Scientologist, brought into the program by Ingo Swann. Okay, okay.

The PK man is a fellow named Ted Owens. I met him in 1976. I'd been aware of his reputation before then. But there is a remote viewing connection because I met him at SRI. Oh, wow. International. Hal Puthoff and Russell Targ were running the program there. Russell, incidentally, is not a Scientologist.

The PK man is a fellow named Ted Owens. I met him in 1976. I'd been aware of his reputation before then. But there is a remote viewing connection because I met him at SRI. Oh, wow. International. Hal Puthoff and Russell Targ were running the program there. Russell, incidentally, is not a Scientologist.

The PK man is a fellow named Ted Owens. I met him in 1976. I'd been aware of his reputation before then. But there is a remote viewing connection because I met him at SRI. Oh, wow. International. Hal Puthoff and Russell Targ were running the program there. Russell, incidentally, is not a Scientologist.

Russell Targ. I recently published a book of 15 interviews with Russell Tark. Is he still alive? Yes, he just turned 90 last April. Wow. What's he doing nowadays? Well, at the age of 90, he's slowed down a bit. But he still does interviews. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, you could probably get him.

Russell Targ. I recently published a book of 15 interviews with Russell Tark. Is he still alive? Yes, he just turned 90 last April. Wow. What's he doing nowadays? Well, at the age of 90, he's slowed down a bit. But he still does interviews. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, you could probably get him.

Russell Targ. I recently published a book of 15 interviews with Russell Tark. Is he still alive? Yes, he just turned 90 last April. Wow. What's he doing nowadays? Well, at the age of 90, he's slowed down a bit. But he still does interviews. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, you could probably get him.

He's a very good friend of mine. I would call him a dear friend.

He's a very good friend of mine. I would call him a dear friend.

He's a very good friend of mine. I would call him a dear friend.

No, I used to live in the Bay Area. So Russell and I would get together practically every week. But now I've moved far away.

No, I used to live in the Bay Area. So Russell and I would get together practically every week. But now I've moved far away.

No, I used to live in the Bay Area. So Russell and I would get together practically every week. But now I've moved far away.

The PK Man, Ted Owens. I was invited to SRI to experience remote viewing for myself. It was February 1976. Right, right. And I did. I did what I regard as a successful remote viewing experience then. And...

The PK Man, Ted Owens. I was invited to SRI to experience remote viewing for myself. It was February 1976. Right, right. And I did. I did what I regard as a successful remote viewing experience then. And...

The PK Man, Ted Owens. I was invited to SRI to experience remote viewing for myself. It was February 1976. Right, right. And I did. I did what I regard as a successful remote viewing experience then. And...

But while I was there, the people in the office were all abuzz about this character, Ted Owens, because he had been writing to them for some time saying they had achieved already a lot of notoriety, which they didn't want, because of their work with Uri Geller, the Israeli psychic. And Ted Owens was writing to them saying, ìWhy are you wasting your time with this Israeli psychic?

But while I was there, the people in the office were all abuzz about this character, Ted Owens, because he had been writing to them for some time saying they had achieved already a lot of notoriety, which they didn't want, because of their work with Uri Geller, the Israeli psychic. And Ted Owens was writing to them saying, ìWhy are you wasting your time with this Israeli psychic?