Steve

Are you familiar with this? Yeah, sort of. He set up what was called the BAAS, the Bigelow Aerospace Advanced something. And then he was close friends with Harry Reid, who at the time was the head of the U.S. Senate. Yeah. He arranged with Harry Reid to begin researching the potential threat to national security that might be imposed by UFOs. For example, if nothing else, aviation accidents.

Right.

Right.

Right.

Right. They set up a program that was funded called OSAP, Advanced Weapons, I forget the exact initials, and it ran through his aerospace company and they began collecting data. And so they reached out. Because nobody was making a systematic effort to collect it.

Right. They set up a program that was funded called OSAP, Advanced Weapons, I forget the exact initials, and it ran through his aerospace company and they began collecting data. And so they reached out. Because nobody was making a systematic effort to collect it.

Right. They set up a program that was funded called OSAP, Advanced Weapons, I forget the exact initials, and it ran through his aerospace company and they began collecting data. And so they reached out. Because nobody was making a systematic effort to collect it.

Well, there were some organizations like MUFON that were doing some of it, but they reached out, as you point out, and asked the various aerospace air traffic control people and so on to report to them.

Well, there were some organizations like MUFON that were doing some of it, but they reached out, as you point out, and asked the various aerospace air traffic control people and so on to report to them.

Well, there were some organizations like MUFON that were doing some of it, but they reached out, as you point out, and asked the various aerospace air traffic control people and so on to report to them.

Well, he hasn't ever said that to me, although he might have. We had many conversations. I've done four interviews with Robert. But I think it's likely. I don't have any evidence for it, but I think it's likely.

Well, he hasn't ever said that to me, although he might have. We had many conversations. I've done four interviews with Robert. But I think it's likely. I don't have any evidence for it, but I think it's likely.

Well, he hasn't ever said that to me, although he might have. We had many conversations. I've done four interviews with Robert. But I think it's likely. I don't have any evidence for it, but I think it's likely.

Yes. As Jeffrey Kripal said, it seems as if it has a purpose. It's to kick us out of our habitual ways of thinking that we know anything.

Yes. As Jeffrey Kripal said, it seems as if it has a purpose. It's to kick us out of our habitual ways of thinking that we know anything.

Yes. As Jeffrey Kripal said, it seems as if it has a purpose. It's to kick us out of our habitual ways of thinking that we know anything.

But in terms of evidence, now my field of parapsychology has evidence.

But in terms of evidence, now my field of parapsychology has evidence.

But in terms of evidence, now my field of parapsychology has evidence.

In my city of Albuquerque. Yeah.