Steve

So I don't know if I'm boring your audience at this point. No, you're not boring them. But so at that point, you begin to realize that if you're a very advanced civilization and you want to become – interstellar, you're not going to be using the junk that all of us think is so all get out from Silicon Valley. I mean, that's rubbish, right? How did you figure this out?

So I don't know if I'm boring your audience at this point. No, you're not boring them. But so at that point, you begin to realize that if you're a very advanced civilization and you want to become – interstellar, you're not going to be using the junk that all of us think is so all get out from Silicon Valley. I mean, that's rubbish, right? How did you figure this out?

So I don't know if I'm boring your audience at this point. No, you're not boring them. But so at that point, you begin to realize that if you're a very advanced civilization and you want to become – interstellar, you're not going to be using the junk that all of us think is so all get out from Silicon Valley. I mean, that's rubbish, right? How did you figure this out?

Well, the truth. I prefer the truth. Well, it was a bit of a long story. But anyway, in 1973 in March, I got very sick and I died. I had a near-death experience. I was raised an atheist and we didn't believe in anything. If it didn't fit in a test tube, it didn't exist. Nonsense. But I had this amazing, beautiful experience, actually.

Well, the truth. I prefer the truth. Well, it was a bit of a long story. But anyway, in 1973 in March, I got very sick and I died. I had a near-death experience. I was raised an atheist and we didn't believe in anything. If it didn't fit in a test tube, it didn't exist. Nonsense. But I had this amazing, beautiful experience, actually.

Well, the truth. I prefer the truth. Well, it was a bit of a long story. But anyway, in 1973 in March, I got very sick and I died. I had a near-death experience. I was raised an atheist and we didn't believe in anything. If it didn't fit in a test tube, it didn't exist. Nonsense. But I had this amazing, beautiful experience, actually.

And I had personally this experience of my own, say, drop of my individuality becoming the ocean, sort of this expanded consciousness state that was infinite. It was boundless. And it was very beautiful. And obviously, I didn't die because here I am. But it was a very serious near-death experience.

And I had personally this experience of my own, say, drop of my individuality becoming the ocean, sort of this expanded consciousness state that was infinite. It was boundless. And it was very beautiful. And obviously, I didn't die because here I am. But it was a very serious near-death experience.

And I had personally this experience of my own, say, drop of my individuality becoming the ocean, sort of this expanded consciousness state that was infinite. It was boundless. And it was very beautiful. And obviously, I didn't die because here I am. But it was a very serious near-death experience.

And about six months later, no, a couple months later, I decided I'm going to learn meditation because I want to get back to that state without getting sick and dying. So I learned how to meditate and started studying that. And then I was up on a mountain in North Carolina, upside the little town of Boone, North Carolina. And I was hiked up there before sunset. And I wanted to see...

And about six months later, no, a couple months later, I decided I'm going to learn meditation because I want to get back to that state without getting sick and dying. So I learned how to meditate and started studying that. And then I was up on a mountain in North Carolina, upside the little town of Boone, North Carolina. And I was hiked up there before sunset. And I wanted to see...

And about six months later, no, a couple months later, I decided I'm going to learn meditation because I want to get back to that state without getting sick and dying. So I learned how to meditate and started studying that. And then I was up on a mountain in North Carolina, upside the little town of Boone, North Carolina. And I was hiked up there before sunset. And I wanted to see...

the sunset, and meditate. And that was it. And just before sunset, I saw a perfectly seamless disc that appeared. And I'd seen almost an identical one when I was eight or nine in North Carolina. I grew up in the Charlotte area. And I went, oh, they're back. I didn't think any more about it. I just thought, well, there it is. I mean, I just accepted this.

the sunset, and meditate. And that was it. And just before sunset, I saw a perfectly seamless disc that appeared. And I'd seen almost an identical one when I was eight or nine in North Carolina. I grew up in the Charlotte area. And I went, oh, they're back. I didn't think any more about it. I just thought, well, there it is. I mean, I just accepted this.

the sunset, and meditate. And that was it. And just before sunset, I saw a perfectly seamless disc that appeared. And I'd seen almost an identical one when I was eight or nine in North Carolina. I grew up in the Charlotte area. And I went, oh, they're back. I didn't think any more about it. I just thought, well, there it is. I mean, I just accepted this.

Because I had looked into this when I was a kid after I had my sighting. But that's all that happened. It was there, and it didn't move off. It just winked out, just sort of like dematerialized or vanished. So I go and I meditate. I'm sitting there, and it gets dark. And when I open my eyes, I have this—the whole Milky Way is up above.

Because I had looked into this when I was a kid after I had my sighting. But that's all that happened. It was there, and it didn't move off. It just winked out, just sort of like dematerialized or vanished. So I go and I meditate. I'm sitting there, and it gets dark. And when I open my eyes, I have this—the whole Milky Way is up above.

Because I had looked into this when I was a kid after I had my sighting. But that's all that happened. It was there, and it didn't move off. It just winked out, just sort of like dematerialized or vanished. So I go and I meditate. I'm sitting there, and it gets dark. And when I open my eyes, I have this—the whole Milky Way is up above.

And I'm about over 5,000 feet up there, crystal clear, October 1973. And— I had this beautiful thought that entered me. I said, behold, what a beautiful universe God has made. And with that, I went into that same experience I had when I died. It was phenomenal, but I was in my body. So I looked over and there was a glow over the edge of the mountainside. I think it was that craft.

And I'm about over 5,000 feet up there, crystal clear, October 1973. And— I had this beautiful thought that entered me. I said, behold, what a beautiful universe God has made. And with that, I went into that same experience I had when I died. It was phenomenal, but I was in my body. So I looked over and there was a glow over the edge of the mountainside. I think it was that craft.