Terry Gross

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Emmanuel, I want to get back to you.

We've talked about how, you know, what can be called racial profiling has been used in Minneapolis to stop people of color.

And I'm wondering if you think there's an element of white nationalism behind some of the thinking here.

Because white nationalists don't like people of color in the US.

They're afraid of losing the white majority.

They're afraid of, you know, quote, losing control of our country.

And I know you've studied white nationalism.

So I'm interested in what you think.

Before we wrap, I want to ask you a question about Greenland, which Trump has threatened to take over.

He wants to try to buy it.

He's threatened military force if he's not allowed to buy it.

He's threatened tariffs if European countries don't allow him to buy it because they are doing their best to stand in the way.

And he sent a text to the prime minister of Norway saying that he no longer felt obligated to pursue peace.

Quote, considering your country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars plus.

I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of peace, although it will always be predominant.

But now I can think about what is good and proper for the United States of America.

The world is not secure unless we have complete and total control of Greenland.

Thank you.