Vanan Murugesan

He's clearly that.

Look, there's no doubt he knows he's boxed himself in.

And yeah, so in a nutshell, that's how, that's what Sahan was created, you know, since then, you know, yeah.

He's in an impossible situation.

It is heads he loses, tails we lose.

I have colleagues, and I know the leaders of Minnesota Public Radio and the Star Tribune and whatnot, and things have dramatically changed since then.

We all are going to lose here in the short term.

And we now know why so many presidents before him never did this, realizing the massive economic, global economic impact that this would have.

But I would say, here's the thing, though.

Sahan, our coverage is 100% focused on issues that impact immigrants and communities of color, right?

It hasn't hit yet, but I'm going to explain that, frankly, it's about to come, unfortunately.

And I like to use this analogy.

And meanwhile, he's just trying to win the day, right?

So Star Tribune and NPR, they're like your targets, you know, or your, I don't know what's the, your grocery chain.

I'll gladly give you a quarter tomorrow for a hamburger today.

The infamous, those of you old enough to remember, Popeye.

And the dude that always wanted a hamburger today, he would gladly pay you tomorrow for it.

This is Donald Trump in a nutshell, right?

He's just always putting off, just trying to put off, put off.

It is just, can he deal with today?