Chapter 1: What does Angourie Rice think about being cringe?
And I think we're all constantly worrying about ourselves or a version of ourselves being cringe. And what is coolness? If coolness is not caring, I'm never going to be cool. I care about so many things.
Hi, I'm Sarah and this is Small Talk. It's not quite a news headline, but it is what the girls are talking about. Sorry, I did that line at the beginning. It always feels so cringe. I actually love it.
Chapter 2: How does Angourie define coolness in Hollywood?
Thank you so much. And I'm here with Ngauri Rice. I am so excited to have you in today. You can see in the title that we're doing an episode about being cringe, but the irony of having one of the most accomplished, coolest people.
Are you kidding? I feel cringe all the time. Great, we'll get into that.
Now, for those who don't know, I'm going to do a bit of a rundown of everything you've done. So everyone is across. You have had so many incredible roles. You've been in The Mayor of Easttown with Kate Winslet. You were, of course, Katie in the recent Mean Girls musical with Tina Fey and Rene Rapp. You were Betty in the recent Spider-Man films, not to mention The Nice Guys in Senior Year.
And recently, The Last Thing You Told Me with Jennifer Garner. And now finding Emily. Yeah. That's quite the IMDb. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, it's been over a number of years. So like, you know, it's not all in one go. But yeah, when you read it all out like that, it does. Yeah. It sounds like a lot. When did you start? When was your first film? I did my first movie when I was 11. And it was a small Australian film called These Final Hours. And I went to the Cannes Film Festival in France.
And that was really, really exciting. Oh, you got to go to the festival?
Yeah, I got to go. At 11?
Yeah, I was 12 when it came out. And yeah, I went to the festival.
Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What was Angourie's first major role in Hollywood?
It was wild. That's so insane. Because your family is like a very creative family.
Your mom's an actress too, right? She's a writer. Yeah. Yeah. So she trained a bit as an actor and then was like, actually, I'm meant to be a writer. That's who I am. So my whole life she's been writing. My dad is a theatre producer and director. So I just grew up around the theatre world.
That's pretty incredible. And also, what was your first major role? Like a US movie role?
That was The Nice Guys. And I was 13. And I turned 14 on set while filming that. Yeah.
So it was kind of wild. I'm so off script now, but I'm just like asking questions about how it is to be a child in Hollywood. Did you keep school up? Because were you in Sydney or Melbourne? I was in Melbourne.
I kept up with school. Yeah, I had tutors on set. I had... My tutors were in touch with the teachers back home via email. And then when I wasn't working, I went back to school with everyone else.
Just come back from a few months off.
What was that like? It was strange. And it was definitely hard around that kind of... 14, 15 age mark because life moves so quickly at that age. So I would come home and like friendship groups were dissolved. Like people were together. They were not together anymore. Like it was, yeah. So I found that hard.
That's what I was going to say. What a like crazy couple of years to be your teenage years because they're just so formative as well. Yes. What incredible, because were other kids on set? Like, what, would you do school by yourself or were there people that you'd kind of study with?
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Chapter 4: How did Angourie balance school and acting as a child?
I mean... I think what I like about Emily and how we are similar is that she is, despite the wall of cynicism that she puts up, she is very romantic and she is somebody who does big romantic things for other people and secretly wants that. for herself as well. Yeah. But she finds that really hard to admit.
And so when she's confronted with this boy who is doing that and people are laughing at him, she's, like, astounded by this. So I think I relate to that. But in terms of her as a character and who she is, she's very spontaneous and a bit impulsive and she's somebody who takes... big swings and hopes they work out.
And I have friends like this, and maybe that's also part of it too, is that like, I have friends who, you know, they will take a big swing and it will be risky, but it will all pan out exactly like how it was supposed to for them, which I love. And I admire that because I'm more of a cautious planner, less of a spontaneous risk taker.
So to play a character who is more like out there and sort of bubbly and bouncing off the walls in that way was really fun.
The other thing I really liked about the film is it explored, and I think you get into this with your book as well, about how part of putting yourself out there in 2026 now is not only putting yourself out there to your life and your friends and who you might have a crush on, but it's also online and that potentially that moment being captured online or spoken about online or whatever it is.
And I think that's a really interesting thing that's explored in like such a modern rom-com as well, because I just feel like that digital footprint is such a big part of both stories.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, with Finding Emily, like, you really see how a complex moment for these two characters is really boiled down to one clip or one headline or whatever and then becomes this whole thing that people comment on that they... They see one piece of the puzzle and they think it is so simple. Yeah. And that happens, yeah, in Finding Emily. And I think that happens in real life too.
And I think being vulnerable on the internet is like... It is not for the faint of heart. It's not for the faint of heart.
It is.
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Chapter 5: What is the premise of the film Finding Emily?
And I'm like, I think that's right, but I don't know how anyone is supposed to do that.
No, I mean, gosh. When I think about, like, feeling cooler when I feel the least afraid of being cringe, it is really when I am very far away from the digital space. And... It's in environments where I feel very comfortable, which is at home with my friends and family, away from everything. But it is also on set and I like that. I mean, and that's like the key thing to me. Like I love...
I obviously love my job. I love telling stories. I love making this product that is this movie. I love being a cog in that machine. That's really fun. But I also think that, yeah, the environment of being on set, that's just when I feel my most cool because it is a cool thing to do.
It is such a cool thing to do. With the amount of people that you've been around from directors and producers and all these incredibly talented artists around you all the time, have you ever had an incredible piece of advice or something early on that has stuck with you?
When I think about advice, I think about... My mum has honestly given me so much good advice. I guess this is related, I think, to, you know, fear of being cringe and the opposite idea of cool that... I remember her telling me, like, you know, I'm going to be proud of you no matter what you do. And it's actually it's not really about what you do.
It's about who you are and like how you show people who you are and how you show up for people. And she talks a lot about or we've had conversations about how people say to her, you must be so proud of
of your daughter and she says like of course I'm proud of you but I would be proud of you even if you weren't doing any of this I'd be proud of you if you were doing something completely different or if you decided to quit tomorrow I would still be proud of you yeah so I guess then it like it's not defining in that way yeah like when I say I feel my coolest on set it's it's it's more that like
I feel cool because I am doing something that I love and actually care about. And that is very genuine. So I'm not afraid of being embarrassed because... I genuinely really care about this thing and I'm confident in that.
Yeah, you're in the zone. I'm in the zone. Yeah, it's kind of funny. I wonder, like, even being in podcasting, like, this is such a safe space for me, even though I forget that people listen on the other side. Yes. I wonder if that's it as well. Like, this is fine, but actually going outside of the studio is much scarier sometimes.
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Chapter 6: How does Finding Emily explore the theme of vulnerability?
She's very cool. She sounds very cool. And you wrote the book with her, right?
Yes. So we wrote, we've written two novels together. Our first one, Stuck Up and Stupid, is a retelling of Pride and Prejudice set in contemporary Sydney. Our second one, My Wonderful Disgrace, is a, it's a novel all told in texts, emails, transcripts, police reports.
Yeah.
diary entries letters and it's set over one night at a school dance and it's about all these characters and what they imagine their school dance is going to be like and what actually happens and it's very much like I think that is a big theme of the book is like How do you manage your expectations of something that's going to be so magical?
You think it's going to be magical and wonderful and special. And then what happens? Can you deal with it if that is not the case? Who are you going to be if you don't get this thing that you think is going to happen for you? Where did that idea come about? So the idea was...
My mum wrote it as a play in the mid to late 2000s that was never produced, but she, like, wrote it and workshopped it for my dad's... He was doing a master's in theatre directing. Yeah. So... She wrote it for that. After we wrote our first book together and that came out, we were kind of like, well, we want to work together again. What should we do?
And she had like revisited this idea a couple of times. And I said, let's bring it back. Let's put it in this new format. Let's yeah. So that's how it happened.
That's such a fun idea. I also love that whole concept of when it's like that if you put something on a night, it's bound to be, it'll never live up to your expectations.
But like even with Korea talking about that, whenever there's like big Korea moments or, I mean, like you would have experienced it to a much more dramatic extent, but like even doing to like red carpet events and stuff like that, they're a bit like...
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