Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
This is the podcast.
What? You guys aren't cheering? You're not ramped up by the high energy, the Mando, when he says things like, Okay.
Rogu, come here. Where's that? I feel like it's a lot of him going like, Okay, and where do I go now? I'll give it a shot.
You're saying they need to be shot by me? Okay. Fine by me. I'll ask one to two questions and then just do it anyway. Yeah.
Mandalorian, thank you for helping. I don't help. Feels like help.
Maybe a little bit.
Bye. But I mean, you know, it's a fine line.
A man with no name who doesn't speak obviously can be cool.
I saw a really good quote, and I want to see if I can find who it was. I was reading through reviews yesterday, and I saw, I think it's the greatest distillation of what this movie fucks up to me.
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Chapter 2: How do the hosts feel about the Mandalorian and Grogu?
It's a corker. That's what I thought was very good.
We're all holding it together.
But too, Geff, you used to run shows, big scale, kind of like you got all these balls. You understand the logistics and the nightmare. I'm also a father. And you're a father. I'm also a father. And a husband. And I understand all of it. But at the same time, you're like, if we don't... Well, no, David, I mean, I understand all of those obligations.
And I also feel like, you know, if there's a counterpoint, I would say even with all those obligations on the table, I never shortchanged the people who supported me.
You never did. Has Gethard ever seen a self-destructive or self-harming bit that he hasn't run headfirst into?
If I know one thing about the man, my friend, my hero, you're a little bit like, yeah, well, you know, those were the glory days. That's, you know, back when I always got that itch.
Oh, yeah.
But I mean, if we can do something ridiculous, that's what I feel. I think about your face all the time, though, on that TCGS episode. Was it the Chris Gethard show for those who don't? You know, Was it when Fallon was on or maybe Hugh had just been on Fallon? Oh, that was a bad night. That was the first time I ever went live. And you're like, people are actually paying attention.
I just plugged this show on national television and that episode was particularly chaotic.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Grogu's character development?
I'm like, it's Disney. They're just kind of like, you show up or fuck you.
Let's also acknowledge the other thing.
Yeah.
We were coming from Citi Field where we had spent the afternoon at Star Wars Day. That was fine. Star Wars Day, which I will say also, I think, factored into our experience of being very, very underwhelmed by this movie was... Star Wars Day with the Mets was an experience that reminded me more of what I like about Star Wars than the Star Wars movie I saw that night.
I mean, Mr. Met was dressed up as the Mandalorian.
I thought he gave a better performance than Pedro Pascal. I thought he was a little more locked in.
He was locked in. The t-shirt canon, there was just a lady dressed as Padme, and I want to say episode two. And the t-shirt is canon, right? Yeah, the t-shirt. You know, like they were just kind of doing shit. Like there was just a stormtrooper walking around. Yes. And it does. There were a couple stormtroopers. You could kind of like high five them, I guess.
And they had like good video package stuff. They had great video packages. And you didn't see this because of where our seats were exactly. But on the screen for every picture. I could close a little bit. Your current enthusiasm for the New York Met Star Wars Day versus what I can only imagine your tone and body language will be for the actual Mandalorian girl experience.
is making me sad. It's making me sad. In fact, we went to Citi Field. We took the 7 to Manhattan.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did The Rise of Skywalker face during production?
Yes. And episode nine, which people are sort of like, you know, oh, that's J.J. Abrams' fault. It's like fundamentally what happened with episode nine was Carrie Fisher died. Yes. And they had to completely dynamite what they were doing. They also had a director that they were losing confidence in. They fire a director. Yeah. They bring in Abrams two months before production starts or whatever.
Right. So late. They push it back four months when they needed to push it back two years. Right.
Chapter 5: How does The Mandalorian serve as a new entry point to Star Wars?
And Abrams is like, I don't know, I guess film Palpatine returns.
Yeah. I mean, he's just... Which, you know, many people think, and I don't think this is a baseless conspiracy theory. There's actually a lot of evidence that points towards this, that Palpatine was entirely a reshoot thing. I mean, that... It seems impossible. I have no idea. Yeah. It's so crazy. I'm not going to go down this rabbit hole, but there's stuff that makes it seem somewhat valid.
But yes, it does feel like they started to freak out. We should mention also that the first season of The Mandalorian TV show, a show we all love... Or that first season we all love.
Not two months before production, by the way.
Two months after. It doesn't matter. Whatever. One month before Rise of Skywalker comes out, Disney Plus launches, and the big launch title is first episode of The Mandalorian. It was before episode nine is when Mando started. By a month.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Grogu's character development?
And in unison, the world says they put a little baby Yoda in a Pokemon. I mean, truly. Love this. They stuck a little Yoda in a Pokemon. I couldn't love this more. I remember episode one, which ends with the reveal of him. Yeah. I was like, a baby Yoda. I don't know. And by episode like three, you're like, baby Yoda is one of my family members. I love baby Yoda. A conversation I remember.
Everyone agrees.
They were so mysterious about that show. Can you believe? It's weird. Jon Favreau, the Iron Man guy, he's making a TV show for Disney Plus, but they're saying it's not going to be cheap. It's going to be really expensive. It's going to look like a movie, right? They got fucking Greg Frieser to shoot the first season.
Sure, high production. It looks incredible, right? But they're also like, it's called The Mandalorian. And I remember at the time being like, that's nerd shit. That's nerd shit. Like, this is supposed to be like, you know, for the masses.
That feels like deep lore shit. And the other part of it was, they kept saying, there's a twist in the first episode. That's why they're being so secretive. I remember you and I saying... He's Boba Fett. I'm going to be so annoyed if he's Boba Fett. Right. And instead, the twist is, we've cracked the code. We've created, we found fire. This is Grogu.
This is like a new element on this earth that is infinitely powerful. And we all were like, fuck, that puppet's pretty good. What is this show? And then the show reveals- Burner Herzog's in it. It's cool. It feels fucking weirdly cool because of that. It's cool. Cool, weird energy. The show reveals itself to be like a Western, a like standalone. He's a bounty hunter. He goes out on a mission.
You meet new characters every time. All we've ever wanted. And it's like, here's the cleanest new entry point to Star Wars in forever. Anyone can watch this. Actually, it is free of kind of lore shit.
Yes. The only lore is like, it's after Return of the Jedi. Yeah. The Republic kind of exists. The Empire is still kind of, you know, hanging around. You don't even really need to know that. You don't really need to worry about it. Yeah.
And I just loved, I was like, this is TV. This is not a 13-hour movie. This is, every episode is 30 minutes of an adventure in a different style.
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Chapter 7: What unique insights does Chris Gethard share about the Mandalorian and Grogu?
Are you looking at this, Gav? This is really strange. It's kind of an achievement. I wish I wasn't in the room with you guys. You wish you weren't in the room. Are you saying you want to be photoshopped in? Do you want to be Zeberellis?
I mean, I did think maybe I would be in there, but that's okay.
Do you want to be Zeberata? Mia's Rada.
I think Rada's the right pick. Get this Rada and your Zeb Aurelios.
You remember Zeb, our dear friend.
I'm going to email Pat right now and let him know. Griff, until this second, I forgot about Zeb. Yep. And they told you not to forget about Zeb, obviously. Yeah, Eminem said that. Yeah, right. But Zeb, who's in Star Wars Rebels, who's like... Which I love Rebels. Rebels is a show I actually watch. Love is too strong, but I watched most of it. I felt it somewhat disappeared.
up its own ass eventually, but I enjoyed it.
David, the exact same relationship. I don't remember if it was three or four seasons in total. I loved the first season of that show, much like Mandalorian. At season two, I was like, I still like this. Season three, I'm like, it's getting really into tying back to Clone Wars shit. And then I never finished the show.
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Chapter 8: How does the discussion reflect on the state of Star Wars fandom?
But I loved the start.
Well, did you love in Ahsoka where, you know, all those characters are flesh and blood now and they deliver lines like this. We have to go get the guy. I liked it fine. I mean, I also just, you know, I like Rosario Dawson. I do too. So much. I think she's a good actor. I'll watch her be pensive and exist in this. Mary Elizabeth Winstead, I love.
Rosario Dawson existing in a liminal space where she rejected Jediism but can never be human again.
Basically taking a nap for four episodes of that season. You guys are so harsh.
I'm not harsh. I watched all of that TV show. It was a lot of hours I put into it. It was very low energy. It was very, very low energy.
But your face is lit up by the lightsabers. I was watching it.
And it's a white lightsaber.
That's cool. It's a white lightsaber. I was watching it and I was like, what is this acting style? Why are they like this? What does this remind me of? And then I cracked it. I went, this is children doing Shakespeare. Wow. This is when you see a high school production of Shakespeare and it's like no one knows what they're saying, but they know that it's supposed to be performed seriously.
And so you just make an acting choice that is serious.
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