Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson
Ex-CIA Cyber Chief: Here's What Keeps Me Up at Night
21 Jul 2025
In a world of rising cyber threats, what keeps the CIA’s former head of cybersecurity up at night?Today on Digital Disruption, we’re joined by Andy Boyd, former Head of the CIA’s Center for Cyber Intelligence.Andy was a Senior Intelligence Service officer in the Central Intelligence Agency’s Directorate of Operations (DO). His most recent assignment was Director of the CIA’s Center for Cyber Intelligence (CCI) which is responsible for intelligence collection, analysis, and operations focused on foreign cyber threats to US interests. Andy has experience leading worldwide intelligence operations and has in-depth knowledge of geopolitics, cyber operations, security practices, and risk mitigation.Andy sits down with Geoff to discuss the future of cybersecurity in a rapidly evolving digital world. With decades of experience in cyber intelligence, Andy explains how global threats are evolving, from traditional espionage to AI-driven cyberattacks and disinformation. He dives into how intelligence agencies like the CIA assess and respond to state-sponsored cyber threats from China and Russia, and why the private sector is now a primary target. Andy breaks down how emerging technologies like generative AI are changing both offensive and defensive cyber strategies, and what this means for governments, businesses, and people. Andy also shares how one of the world’s leading professional services firms is navigating this new landscape, using culture, data, and innovation to stay ahead of cyber risks. In this episode:00:00 Intro02:45 What the CIA's Cyber Intelligence Center actually does05:30 Leading transformation across a global enterprise 07:20 Evolution of cyber threats from nation-states08:15 Building trust and transparency with business stakeholders11:10 The critical role of data in decision-making 13:00 How the CIA detects and responds to cyber attacks17:05 Creating a culture of innovation and adaptability17:45 The private sector as a frontline target20:40 How Aon is approaching talent and upskilling 23:10 Offensive cyber operations: how far should the U.S. go?27:30 Key leadership lessons and advice for future CIOs29:50 China's cyber capabilities vs. Russia's tactics35:25 The role of intelligence in election security40:50 Why disinformation is more dangerous than hacking45:30 How AI is transforming cyber espionage50:10 What keeps Andy Boyd up at night54:40 The importance of public awareness and resilienceConnect with Andy:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-g-boyd-12194673/Visit our website: https://www.infotech.com/Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfoTechRG
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