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Bonus: Alex Schultz, CMO of Meta — Scaling Growth and Rebranding a Trillion-Dollar Brand

01 Oct 2025

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Subscribe to DTC Newsletter - https://dtcnews.link/signupIn this episode of the DTC Podcast, we sit down with Alex Schultz, the CMO and VP of Analytics at Meta, to unpack nearly two decades of hard-earned marketing insights from inside one of the most influential tech companies on the planet.From his scrappy beginnings as an affiliate marketer trying to pay for college, Alex rose through the ranks at Facebook—helping launch self-serve ads, custom audiences, and building the company’s analytics function from the ground up.Now, as CMO, he shares how he thinks about brand vs. performance, why incrementality measurement is non-negotiable, and what it really took to lead the rebrand from Facebook to Meta in under seven months.In this episode, you’ll learn:How affiliate thinking creates real marketersWhy starting with performance-driven urgency creates marketers who understand what actually drives growthThe self-serve ad platform strategy that unlocked small business scaleAlex shares how linking product and marketing—from in-product CTAs to retargeting drop-offs—became Meta’s growth engineWhy incrementality is the foundation of modern marketingForget last-click—true marketers use lift tests, holdouts, and on/off testing to see what really worksHow to build brands on performance platformsYes, you can build a brand on Meta—but only if you measure it rightThe inside story of the Meta rebrandIncluding a midnight WhatsApp from Zuckerberg and a literal house fireWhy creative strategy—not media buying—is the future in an AI worldAgencies will evolve, but those who control the data + creative inputs will control outcomesHow Alex is using creator marketing, email, and retargeting to market his new book, Click HereThe modern playbook Meta uses… now applied to booksVisit Hachette Book Group for information on how to purchase Click Here: The Art and Science of Digital Marketing and Advertising, out on October 7th. And you can check out an audio book version on Spotify here: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hsoMSkbpEboe0M4aGqNgZTimestamps00:00 - From Affiliate Marketer to CMO of Meta02:00 - Building Facebook’s Growth Engine and Analytics Team06:00 - Lessons From the Affiliate Mindset08:00 - Launching Self-Serve Ads and the First Custom Audiences11:00 - Rebranding Facebook to Meta: Inside the Strategy15:00 - Building Brands with Direct Response vs. Top-of-Funnel Marketing18:00 - How WhatsApp’s Brand Story Shifted Perception20:00 - Why Alex Wrote "Click Here" and Its Core Principles24:00 - The Future of Agencies and AI in Advertising28:00 - Marketing the Book Using Meta StrategiesHashtags#DTCpodcast #Meta #AlexSchultz #DigitalMarketing #BrandStrategy #AffiliateMarketing #Rebranding #MarketingBook #GrowthMarketing #AdvertisingStrategy #MarketingTips #SocialMediaMarketing #BusinessGrowth #CMOInsights #MarketingPodcast Subscribe to DTC Newsletter - https://dtcnews.link/signupAdvertise on DTC - https://dtcnews.link/advertiseWork with Pilothouse - https://dtcnews.link/pilothouseFollow us on Instagram & Twitter - @dtcnewsletterWatch this interview on YouTube - https://dtcnews.link/video

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