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Chapter 1: What events led to the Watts family being reported missing?
Hey, weirdos.
Chapter 2: What happened during Chris Watts' polygraph test?
I'm Alayna. I'm Ash. And this, this is morbid. again we gotta tell you guys oh my god guys before we get into this absolute horror and i know it's hard because i've done this once before so yesterday we recorded a over two and a half hour episode almost three hours we spent almost three hours recording
I went to export the file and something happened where it was just a silence. Not even a silence. You can hear me release the record button so it goes doop. And then the rest is just complete silence.
We tried. For hours last night to get this thing back, we got a micro SD card reader to plug into the computer because we were trying to recover lost files off of it. Randomly, Drew had a micro SD reader. I called him to see if our computer had like a space and he's like, oh, I have one. I'm on my way. I was like, what? Thank goodness. But then that didn't work. It was hours last night.
After three hours of recording, we had like hours of trying to do this because we were just, this is a, I'm still so stressed about this because I'm like, this episode is fucking brutal. It's a brutal episode. This is an awful case. In the first one, I cried four times during the recording in the first one. That's how brutal this episode is. So be, I don't go into graphic detail about anything.
It's just the whole overarching thing of this. Because we're obviously going to get into what happened, how this ended, his complete nonchalant demeanor about the whole thing. Yep. And so it was, like, energy-wise, it was very taxing mentally to go through it. It's just so heavy. And then to have that for three hours, which, like, I realize, like, you know... Life could be worse.
Life could be much worse. Just listen to the episode. But... It's so shitty when you do something like that for three hours, which I know other people understand. And then to have it just gone.
And you're just like, we installed several different programs on the computer last night.
Today. Because yesterday I said, after we went through the whole thing, I was like, we got to walk away. We got to walk away because one, I can't do this episode again right now. I don't have it in me. No. Like I can't just sit here and go through the motions in this episode. It's too important.
Yeah.
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Chapter 3: How do the hosts describe the emotional impact of the case?
out of my psyche. Like, I need to walk away from this. I need to get this out of my... It's going to take me a minute to get away from this. Like, when I tell you I cried four times during the recording, I literally cried four times during the... I had to stop and, like, breathe. Just because it's all so heavy. It's too much. And so I was like, I can't wait to just...
Put this out, put the information we need to put out, and then just clear it out of my brain because it's really bothering me.
I am setting a timer right now for an hour, and we're going to pause an hour into this and just make sure everything sounds good. It's looking good, but I just want to make sure. So we're starting timer right now.
Yeah.
So there's that.
So that's where we are.
all right so you haven't heard part two yet listener no you haven't and just know that it's really fucking heavy in this guy it's heavy I said so many things yesterday that maybe there's a reason why we weren't supposed to.
Maybe we went too hard at him. I don't think we can go too hard at him. I don't think you can. But maybe, I don't know, maybe we said something that the universe was like, I don't know. You don't want that out there. Like maybe you just don't want that kind of vibe out there. I don't know. Things happen for a reason. I maintain that he's a useless bag of shit. I do too.
I'll probably say all the same things. I was going to say I'm probably going to say the same thing. I think maybe I was like, you know, trust me, we're going to get into it. Don't worry. I'm just stressed. Maybe it was just like yesterday I was a little like... Nudgy. I felt a little nudgy. Okay. You know, sometimes you just feel a little nudgy during the day. There's been a lot happening.
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Chapter 4: What are the insights from Shanann's friends about her relationship with Chris?
I did see one handwritten thing that I thought was very interesting. And I looked around and I saw this person has never come forward with who they are, which was kind of like a good thing, I think, at the time. I was like impressed by it. This psychic medium from Massachusetts... From our town. ...wrote, called the police while they were missing...
They had not even been... Like, none of this had come out. They didn't know what happened to them. Nothing. And told the police... The most detailed version of events that they believed happened, and it matches up almost exactly. Really? Like, they say that, like, you know, they're going to be found, I think they said, like, underwater or in liquid. Which is, like, how, what did you know that?
Yeah, you didn't tell me this yesterday. Like, they knew causes of death. They knew the time period. They, I mean, they just went, they really, like... It was really shocking how accurate it was. And it's in the discovery document. It's like a yellow piece of paper. Damn. It's one of the only pieces of paper that is handwritten that is legible to read in the document.
Shout out to whoever transcribed that note. Yeah, it definitely was legible. But it's a psychic medium from Massachusetts who wanted to remain anonymous.
interesting which i thought was interesting because usually that's not always the case to me if they're bullshit then they want to slap their name on it but if they're not then they're just like i want to give you this information because this is what i got do that what you will because they're not getting anything out of that they're just trying to get along i had like i had a notion i was like i wonder if it's this person but i won't say who it is because obviously they wanted to remain anonymous yeah i but there's only like you know it's massachusetts i have my own notion too
But that was interesting. And then another thing I saw, which was horrifying because, you know, things are going to get really horrifying from here on out. While Shanann was in North Carolina on that five week vacation, she ended up getting very ill, like very ill, vomiting, like really sick. And it was when Chris had come to visit.
So Chris, after the five weeks or like during the five weeks at some point at the end, had come to stay with them for a few days. OK. Then come home. It was when he got there that she got very ill. So that's suspect. And remember, he had flipped a switch. He had flipped a switch.
Everyone had said that they were all over each other before he left and that it was those five weeks alone without his wife and children that he suddenly decided that that was the life he wanted. And he flipped. He took the mask off. It didn't slip. It didn't fall down. He took it off and he launched it into the ocean. It was gone.
Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What led Chris Watts to confess to the murders?
They get me. They don't. They don't. I'm speaking for all of Metallica right now. They don't get you. They don't get you. No. And they do not like you. No. I know that. No one does. And fuck you for looking up Metallica lyrics. Like, fuck you. After you kill your whole family, you look up Metallica lyrics? You don't deserve Metallica.
And when asked about this, because obviously it showed up in his fucking search history because he's an idiot.
Which is weird.
He said he looked these up because Nicole Kessinger, his mistress, asked him about the lyrics to this song and wanted to know the meaning. She has Google, as we're well aware.
In her two hours of searching up wedding dresses, she couldn't just take a side quest to figure out what the meaning of this Metallica song was.
Yeah, I mean, look at those discovery documents. We know she had Google. Yeah. Yeah, she definitely had Google. She could have looked those up. And also, what are you trying to do? Yeah, exactly. What are you trying to do here? Oh, she heard that song that I've never... What is Metallica, he said. Yeah.
And also, if you look at the timeline here and you look at the transcript, like the text messages, in going and out going, and the phone calls during this time, they weren't talking during that little... They were talking during the day, don't get me wrong. But during that little period, she didn't ask him about it, that we saw, that you can see. So what's that? Interesting.
So they've gone through the house. They've talked to the friends, like the investigators have. They've talked to the friends, the neighbors, and they've watched Chris Watts have... Zero emotion about his family being supposedly missing. I honestly, again, I have no doubts that every officer who entered that house knew something nefarious had happened involving him. There's no way.
Now, during the day, Chris had made several staged phone calls to Shanann as well. To try to while he was at work to try to make this trail of concern seem real. Yeah. Because once I think he this this is how I feel like he he definitely planned this and he thought it was going to go a different way because he did it.
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Chapter 6: How did the investigation reveal Chris's actions after the murders?
And that's when it unraveled. Here's how crazy this is.
He forgot that she had a doctor's appointment that morning or just didn't know. Yeah. The man who had the mask on literally kept track of her doctor's appointments.
Yes. That version of Chris... How ironic. Existed. How ironic. How crazy that they both can exist. It's next level. Truly. Now, this one... I hadn't heard this before. And when I read it in the documents, I said, he did what?
This is when you said he made sure that it was this day, right?
Because again, he's planning. He thinks he's going to go home and clear out all the things that make it seem like they couldn't have left on their own volition. And he still did this at 8.26 in the morning. That's... Two hours after he had just murdered his whole family and disposed of them in heinous ways. Yeah.
At 826, he called Primrose School, which was Bella and Celeste's preschool slash daycare. And it was like a really good school that Shanann had worked hard to get them into. Yep. He called that school at 826 in the morning to disenroll them. To take them out of school forever. He literally talked to the staff and told them his daughters would not be returning to school there.
How are, like, I'm glad he's this stupid. How was he ever going to explain that later? How? And he just never thought, he didn't account for that coming back up? His answer later was just like, well, I thought that, you know, she had taken off with them. No. You had no evidence of that. It also had been a couple hours since you'd last seen them. Hey, also, at this point, they're not missing.
Right. That's where he really went wrong here. He said, I didn't think they were ever going to come back. Oh, no, babe. You didn't know they were gone. Wait a minute. You didn't know they were missing at this point. Or you weren't supposed to anyway. You were still calling them. Remember?
Like, not only is this stupid, even if he had done it in the middle of the day after they were already quote unquote missing, that would still be stupid because you would never disenroll your children. You would be like, they're coming home today and they're going to school tomorrow. Like everything's going to go totally normal. And that is all going to be a weird dream.
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Chapter 7: What was Chris Watts's confession about his family?
And she said when he came to visit North Carolina and when she came home, he wouldn't touch her, wouldn't hug her. In fact, at one point he said, I don't want to hug you. Wouldn't take photos with the kids. He wouldn't take photos with the kids? No, wouldn't take family photos anywhere that they went, like wouldn't be involved in anything. What the fuck? Yeah, he knows what he's going to do.
That's crazy.
And I truly think that was part of it, was he shut it off because he saw what life could be like with Nicole. Yeah. And no responsibilities. With Nicole Kessinger. And I think he had already decided what he was going to do. I don't know if he had the full plan, but he knew what he was going to do. He was gearing up to kill them all. And he was disengaging to make it easier on himself. Just leave.
Just leave. Now, they interviewed Nicole Kessinger, obviously. Yeah. And she gave a lot of info, including that on August 13th, the night, the day they went missing at night that day. So he had gone through the whole day thinking his family was quote unquote missing. They spoke and he claimed Shanann and he told Nicole that Shanann had just told him she was pregnant that morning.
There's literally a video that exists of when she told him that she was pregnant.
There's a video.
Yeah. So he didn't account for that. Also, she was 15 weeks pregnant. It was pretty clear.
And she had had two children before she was showing.
He knew what his wife looked like pregnant.
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Chapter 8: How did the court respond to Chris Watts's actions?
Just swallowing, blinking and gritting his teeth. Exactly. Now, later that afternoon, he had a press conference. He appeared at a press conference, too. That was another mistake. And to discuss the whole thing. And he said, I'm hoping right now that she's somewhere safe. It's not something I could ever, ever fathom would happen in my lifetime. And I have no inclination of where she is.
She said she was going to a friend's house with the kids. And that's the last thing I heard. And that was it. It was very vague. Also, that's another story he's clinging to is after he told her he wanted to separate and sell the house, they got into an emotional conversation is how he described it. Okay. It was like an emotion. You haven't met an emotion. You have those.
And then he says that she told him that she was going to take the kids to a friend's house. At 4 a.m.? Yep. And he loves to say, he says it several times, very vague. Like she wouldn't give me the information.
If he was going to be leaving for work, she would have just stayed home with the kids.
Of course, because she's away from him. She doesn't have to go anywhere. She would have got up. You're going to work. Got them ready at a normal time, gone through the motions, and then got them out of the house before he got home from work. What are you talking about? And also, you know all her friends. So weird. And you didn't press her? No. He's texting her. Where are you? Yeah.
You just said she told you you're at a friend's house. Yeah. So and also you disenrolled your kids from school in the morning. So I just think they're at her friend's house. Like shit. You just ended their education because they're at a friend's. They had a play date. So you ended their education right there. Wild. That's fucking crazy.
Now, everyone at this point, including myself at this point in 2018, was that when it popped up on my fucking TV screen and I said, that guy did it. The husband did it. Everyone was saying this guy is fucked. Everyone saw it. Everyone. Yep. Everyone was wondering how he was managing to show zero concern or worry for his pregnant wife and two young children.
There is something to be said for not judging how people react in certain situations. Of course. But in this situation, there is not an innocent person on earth who would react even close to how he did or not react. There is just, I won't judge in certain situations. I'm judging so hard that my name is Judy in this situation. He is not a human.
There is no parent who would react this way if they were innocent. No. Just no parent on earth. You have to be guilty to act this way. No.
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