Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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At any point before everything was exposed, when 10 bands or something came on, you definitely tap short and be like, yo, you know, that's me.
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Chapter 2: What led to Quentin Miller's rise as a ghostwriter?
Okay. Nah, nah, nah, nah.
You wasn't in the studio getting that off? Man, I would have been right at the party like, yo, that's me right there. All that sauce, all that flavor you're hearing right there, that's me. I'm the chef. I'm going to see her rapping along like, oh, you like those lyrics, huh? You talking like me now. This conversation was something that I've been wanting to have.
But I told Quentin when he was ready. So we finally here. It's a pleasure to finally meet you in person and get to sit down and kick it with you. It's a lot of personal questions that I've always had that I wanted to ask you, but I wouldn't want to do that over the phone. I want it to be face to face. But first and foremost, how you been, man? I'm good, man. Staying alive.
I hear you. I hear you.
There's an easy joke there. I'm going to leave it alone.
Very easy joke right there. It's too easy. Do you know the TikTok dance? No, I don't.
Okay.
Good. So what's been going on, man? How is Quentin Miller doing as of today? How are you?
Man, I'm good, man. I'm solid. I'm just staying busy, man. Just trying to stay at it. Making songs has moved my life, my whole life. You know what I'm saying? So I just try to just trust in the process and just keep making songs.
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Chapter 3: How did Quentin Miller's relationship with Meek Mill evolve?
People only really know the Drake stuff. If they don't know about that situation, I, you know, the Dream and Tricky were on fire, you know, like they were the hottest. Absolutely. And they look like me, you know, and I trusted them. And when they dropped me for the stupid ass reason that they dropped me, really just scorned me over. But they didn't drop my publishing.
They just, I was like a tagged animal. It was like they dropped me, but kept my publishing. That shit broke me. That shit hurt.
So you said in hindsight, you understand it more now. So what was the reason?
I have an idea of what may have went on. Obviously, I can't say for sure, but... Yeah, that shit, that shit really fucked me up, man. And I thought it was over with from there, you know? And so I'm like three years, like just, you know, working Target, working Publix, working all these places. And one day I just, I remember the crazy thing, because I met Boy Wonder through Tricky.
So it's like, I never would have met Boy Wonder if it wasn't for that situation, so. But I just sent a random Hail Mary text to Boy Wonder and the shit worked.
Shout out to Boy Wonder. That's family.
That's my guy, man.
So were you signed as an artist or was it just writing?
I was signed as an artist. And it was just like, we're not going to do it unless you do a potion. I don't even know what potion. I'm just like, this is the dream. He's on fire. What the fuck? This is dreaming. Tricky. I'm with them. They brought me to Vegas. I watched the dream work on Fancy. I watched it. I'm like... This is what I'm supposed to do. This is where I'm supposed to go.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did Quentin face after losing his leg?
You're in the middle of your session. To interrupt your session to tell you I don't think you're a star. And obviously you're an artist. You say, yo, listen, I just want to... Can you get out of my session? Let me just focus on this.
Then he was offended that I asked him to leave the session.
Right. And then you dropped after that.
It was just like, man, some real like ego shit, man.
And then you said Tricky called you after that?
Yeah, he called me. He called me during this because dude had left and I'm in the session. Then Tricky calls me. Then I go out and he's like, you ain't this, you ain't that. Now I got to walk back in the session. You know what I'm saying? Like, come on, man. That shit was crazy, bro. That's such an odd situation. And they thought I was going to be done. And they thought I was going to be done.
So no other context. It's like, yo, you're not a star.
But maybe they didn't think I was going to be done because they still have my publishing.
So maybe it was like that. Did you have management at the time? I did. Who was your manager, if you don't mind me asking? I don't want to say. Okay. That's fair. So now they drop you from that situation, Epic, even though you say you wasn't on the website, you never met nobody from Epic, really. Well, he met the head of A&R. Well, the head of A&R you met.
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Chapter 5: How did Quentin Miller navigate the music industry after being dropped?
Who did the Rico beat?
It was in a pack of beats. So then like a week later or something, John was like, yo, you know that song? Meek got on that song. And I'm like, for real? He's like, yeah. And I'm like, oh, I didn't even know that Drake did the song. I didn't even know he was going to take the song. You know what I'm saying? But he says Meek got on the song. So then fast forward. I'm in Mean Street.
Drama comes over. Hey, yo, Meek wants you to write some shit for him. I'm like, nah. Wait, Meek wants you to write a record for him? He wants me to write a hook or something. He wants me to write for him.
Okay. I'm like, I'm good. Why? Why didn't you not?
I'm with Dre! I don't give a fuck about it.
During that time, yeah.
I was like, I'm OVO.
But at that time, they had a good relationship.
They weren't beefing. I don't know.
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Chapter 6: What was Quentin's experience during the Drake and Meek Mill feud?
You know what I'm saying? I worked with these guys. I don't know. I just felt like that whole thing was strange.
Did you feel blackballed at that time? Or was there labels reaching out? Or did the heads of A&Rs that actually said maybe you could be a star now?
Because it's just like, you know, man, I'm thinking like the phone is just about to just ring off the hook. I'm thinking, you know, anytime anybody's involved with one song with this guy, it's like everything, you know? And it's just like, it just wasn't like that. It's just like, it just didn't, it just didn't happen. It was like, it was strange.
I don't want to insinuate anything, but did... Anything cross your mind on why? Because I would think the same thing. And being credited for huge records by the biggest artists in the world, I would think my phone would start fucking ringing. Exactly.
A multitude of things went by my mind. And then the fucked up part of it all was I was in a publishing deal. So I couldn't even really capitalize... on those songs, you know what I'm saying? Anybody that wasn't in a publishing deal and you get songs like that, you know, your life has changed, you know, but it's just like, I just been under the table. Like I've been in the back door.
I came in the game in the back door and I just been under the table this whole time.
So where's the, did you ever have a conversation with Drake after Like all of this shit happened. Did you explain the situation? Like, yo, I didn't, you know, I didn't think you were going to get on this record. That's the only reason I ever even played it for somebody. Or did you even have that conversation with him?
I ain't going to lie, man. I mean, that conversation, that wasn't even an option. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it was just like panic, panic, panic. what should I do? Want me to say something? I'll say something. All right. After I said something, then it was less talking. Then after the fucking Meek Nike store situation, then it was like even less talking.
And I'm like, bro, literally the man said, get on camera and say, you was lying. You wrote that shit. And I said, nah. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, damn, bro.
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Chapter 7: How did Quentin Miller's creative process change over time?
Like, bro, I'm like, it's like the very beginning, you know? And then, you know, with everything else, it's just like, I don't know. Everything just happened the way it happened. But, you know, it definitely wasn't no, what the fuck sense does it make for me to be like, I'm trying to leave some references out. Like, hey, y'all, I'm Drake. Like, no, I'm still trying to get put on.
I'm trying to get more songs with this man. I'm trying to get songs with other people. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to do stuff with other people and... Yeah.
Did that turn you off to the possibility of being an artist, but also being a writer? Like the way we saw Frank Ocean, where he was still writing for people, yet became his own artist between Lonnie Brown, Frank Ocean type of thing.
I've been still writing for people ever since. I done worked with Nas, Big Sean, Jeezy, a bunch of other people. Jeremiah, Ty Dolla $ign, a bunch of other people. You know, I never really wanted to be a writer. And, you know, it's an interesting sport, you know. I think I have more of a passion to just be creative, you know what I'm saying, with what I feel.
Sometimes, especially, you know, in today's time where they want certain type of songs and stuff, you know, everybody's not, you know, that type of song maker, you know. Some people... Some people will make, not to sound corny, but make songs from their heart, I guess, or what they feel. Yeah, man. It's an industry. Money Long really hit it right on the head, too.
Also, just the feeling of being a writer, because it's really like you're just the help. You're just the replaceable help. Yeah. come when it's time to work, when it's time to celebrate. I forgot. Like, don't, you know, everybody gets paid, but you, you know, your publishing check, that shit don't come to like a year or some change later, depending on your situation, you know.
It's a thankless job. Yeah, it's a thankless job. It's hours, hours, hours, and no paid job.
So Tricky, how much, how well is Tricky eating off of that?
Unless, no, no, no. Okay. So now it's different if you got the hits, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But if, you know, it's a little more difficult if you just like album placing and stuff like that. If you, you know, if you get them top 40 hits, top 20 hits, shit like that, you know. Yeah.
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Chapter 8: What insights does Quentin have about being a ghostwriter in hip-hop?
Rob Markman, Jr. : He's done pretty well for himself out here.
He's done some cool things.
He's done some cool things. Rob Markman, Jr.
: Yeah. You got that video that Hop sent? And we can clean this part up, but I do want him to see that. Yeah. So my brother Hip Hop sends me a video. Rob Markman, Jr.
: Hip Hop.
Keep the Nike. We were wearing Nike all the time. That was our thing.
You know what's ironic? Those are good times. That was the same week that Dreams Worth More Than Money came out. Is that why Hot probably sent that date?
Yeah man, I'm a part of that album. We know now.
Yeah.
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