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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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This hour of Real Kipper and Bourne brought to you by Bet365, Nick Kiprios, Justin Bourne, our very own Sammy McKee, Jake the Snake Schultz, Derek Brandeo, and added to the team up from AAA, AA. Okay, no baseball terms. The American Hockey League, Chris Gallagher. Marley's Minute.
Marley's minute Chris Gallagher love that handle welcome to the team Gallagher's Canyon Galley plenty to get into including a very crazy game three Saturday night against Vegas and Carolina Peter Laviolette the next head coach of the LA Kings which was kind of crazy Mike Babcock we hear Mike Babcock out there in the meantime where do you guys want to start
How about the hockey game? I don't know if you saw that on Saturday night. A whole bunch of things happened.
I kind of did.
Your boy Mitch had a bit of a show.
Is it official? Is he my boy? I know he's never been Sammy's boy. He was never your boy. Is this an official? He's my guy? He's been your guy, pal. Has he won you back at all?
I mean, that's not a fair... Can you just say... Not a fair sheet. That was an unbelievable game. That was unbelievable. That's the best I've ever seen him play. Not even close. Second period of that.
Not even close. That's one of the... That's one of the best hockey games I've seen anyone play.
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Chapter 2: What dramatic moments occurred in Game 3 of the Stanley Cup Final?
But to sit there and say, well, he just choked when he was a leaf or he's no good and there's no pressure there and there's pressure here. I'm not interested in participating in that conversation. You know? I mean, it's just, and you know where I stand. It's all garbage. But do I need to say it again?
You sure don't.
You know, Sammy, what do you need to say, buddy, on Marner and Toronto and all of that where you feel like everybody else is talking about it, but nobody's adding anything new to it. There's no new angle. There's no nothing. It's just either you like them or you love them or you hate them.
I don't know if this is new or not, but the thought I had watching that game where he scored three goals in a period, what, six minutes was his fastest hat trick? I mean, more goals than he ever had in any playoff run here with the Leafs. It's just unbelievable. All the stats stacking up. It's just what confidence can do for a player and seeing one go early.
Like, he was always this guy in the regular season here. He was brilliant throughout every regular season. And I just... It started early in Vegas for him in terms of the playoffs. It went well early. He was scoring. He was just scoring from the start. It just went well early. And it's just unbelievable how good he's been.
So there may be something new. He thinks he's a much more confident player than he was when he was with the Leafs. Do you agree with that?
I'll say my new angle on it is this to me, This, to me, came from the international play, from the success he had wearing Team Canada's jersey, being a part of important lines, making big plays in big moments, scoring OT winners, wearing the Canadian jersey and winning four nations.
And I got to believe playing in those most pressure-filled moments, you know, that makes you more comfortable with pressure, right? That builds. So to me, that's a guy that kind of learned his way through this.
And, like, on the side of, you know, fans who are... I mean, there's tons of Leaf fans who are Marner fans and that get to rub this in people's faces, and I understand that. But there are certain L's, as the kids would say, certain fat L's in your life that you just almost have to laugh. Like, this is a monumental mistake and just...
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Chapter 3: How did Mitch Marner's performance impact the game?
They were like Edmonton where you're going, are they going to blow it? Were they 500 for the full year? They did not. They weren't very good. And their goaltending was horrific too. And their numbers were probably better than what their record deserved, but they couldn't get a save all season long.
And then Carter Hart just steps up and, you know, it's debatable what you thought of his performance Saturday night. We're certainly going to get into that with Frederick Anderson. But the timing of his big saves, JB, much different than what they probably showed all season long.
Yeah. You know, Torch showed a lot of faith in Hart when he showed up, right? He's a guy that he's got a relationship for whatever reason.
Oh, so just last thing I'll say, I mean, I... This is going to get a lot worse for guys like me. For Leaf fans, because you know the first thing that's going to happen at the Stanley Cup parade, the first thing that's going to happen when they're hammered at a bar and they're wearing, he couldn't get it done in Toronto shirts and all this stuff.
We are heading into, I mean, Carolina can come back, clearly, but if they win, we're heading into an even worse coronation for anti-Martin Luther fans, and it's going to get tough. It's going to get tough.
This will live on for generations that you had... one of the most talented players in your history, and you couldn't get him to stay.
Totally. I have no fight left in me. There's nothing. It's just a huge L that we all have to eat, unfortunately.
Was Babe Ruth a Boston Red Sox once upon a time? Does that come up every once in a while?
I don't know about that. I would say no.
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Chapter 4: What does Mitch Marner's hat trick signify for his career?
Yeah.
All day long.
I am with you guys. I just feel like you can't wait.
Freddie's maxed out. Yeah. You've squeezed everything you can out of him. And you just... He is the type of guy, again, going into game four, that you can look up at the scoreboard and you can see two goals on six shots. And... He got a couple of lucky breaks on an offside on the opening goal. But forget about whether or not that's a disallowed goal or not.
That goal that Stone put between his legs on a muffin is the first sign that you, as a Vegas team, go, if that's him tonight, we're good. We're good. And on the opposite side, if you're on the Canes side, you say to yourselves, can we win with that guy in net?
Mm-hmm.
And you can't have that going into game four. Bussey played, to your point, Sammy, well enough. And you too, JB, where you're like, he's fresh. He's got some strut. He came in and played really well. And it's exactly what the team needs. I don't think it's a hard decision at all to go to this guy.
Why don't we hear the other Brandon Moore clip on the team's ability to bounce back?
There was a lot going on, right? And like I said, I didn't love parts of that game for our group. I know the one thing, they don't ever... We've been in games where we haven't played well. We always find a way to dig ourselves out, always. And so that's kind of happened again here tonight. We just dug a little too big a hole there.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Peter Laviolette's hiring for the LA Kings?
I just wish I didn't know the number. I wish I didn't know the number. I wish they were just, you know, in the third round of their interviews or something.
Okay, so we got to nail that on the Pavelski thing because that's been the hot new name. Yeah. Is this like the new thing where everybody's looking for the next Marty St. Louis now?
It's Copycat League. That's it, it is, right? We like that.
Okay, well, first of all, I don't know how much Chyka or Mats know about Joel Pavelski. At least with Marty St. Louis, you know, Jeff Gorton had a relationship with him that stemmed back to like New York days. Right, right. That's a big difference on knowing somebody and having a feel for somebody.
I don't know where their feel is that Joe Pavelski can come out from never coaching in his life and then going into this market in Toronto.
We said about David Carl, who's been a head coach for a long time and had a lot of success.
College kids.
I know, but he's been a head coach, Kip.
I know. No, no, he's up on Joe.
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Chapter 6: How does the coaching market affect the Leafs' search for a new head coach?
You don't know how to win. It's much different than loser. There's winners and non-winners. But that's what it would do for him and a few others is like, you know, I'm not saying that, you know, you've got to leg up when you go into training camp over Austin or Willie, but, like, buddy, come to me. Come to the old.
Did Willie win a Calder? Calder? No. No, I don't think he's on the team.
Was he? Was he part of that? Let me check. When I was there. I think he got called up by Ben.
We went five rounds over two years when I was there with Willie. Like, he played deep, but I don't know that he was there.
Like, Easton is going to go into that room and say, let me show you how it's done. I know how to win.
No, he's not, because they're going to trade him and someone else for. No, they're not. What's his name? Larkin.
Now, I mean, realistically... He's got 13 points in 17 playoff games for the Marlies.
It's great. More importantly, I saw him punch somebody in the head.
Oh, I loved it. Light him up, kid. Akimov has a 923 save percentage. Made 39 saves and a 2-1 win yesterday for the Marlies. Marlies minute, boys. All right, Larkin.
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Chapter 7: What are the potential candidates for the Leafs' head coaching position?
I get such a kick out of Babs. I think he's great for the league.
Tell me where they wouldn't go to Joel Quenville, but they'll now go to Mike Babcock?
What do you mean? Oh, Edmonton wouldn't go to Quenville? I didn't know that was a thing. They went to Stan Bowman. What's the difference than Quenville?
I don't know. I don't know. But that's the guy that you needed if you were really interested in getting a real head coach there. Mike Babcock is just... I don't know. Do you think Quenville's a better coach than Babcock? Joel was available. Definitely. Joel was available. Oh, Joel, come on. Joel's not anywhere near Mike Babcock's stories. There's no stories.
No, Mike Babcock's ego is the issue. I think he's a great coach. I think his ego is absurd, but I get a kick out of it. The whole phones thing in Columbus is a punchline and invasion of privacy.
That's just the cherry on top.
It is. Oh, yeah.
That's just the cherry.
To me, I was with... The Leafs org when Babs was there and he had us showing pictures from our phone up on a screen. What he did was across the line not justifying it. But I don't think it's beyond bringing him back in the league when you bring back in this guy, that guy, this guy, that guy.
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