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The Bulwark Podcast

Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

24 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What unforeseen consequences did the U.S. face from the Iran war?

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Chapter 2: How is the Strait of Hormuz critical to the global economy?

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73.184 - 96.411 Tim Miller

Hello, welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We got a doubleheader today, a doubleheader tomorrow, a great guest Thursday. We said too many good guests, okay? So we're just giving you... Just a bounty of content on the podcast this week. In addition to that, tonight, Tuesday night on YouTube, I'll be live streaming, taking your questions around 8.30 Eastern time.

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96.712 - 105.628 Tim Miller

So go on to the Borg YouTube feed. In segment two, we got my man Joe Weisenthal, the stalwart, who is going to talk about the economics of the Iran war.

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Chapter 3: What impact does the Iran war have on oil pricing and supply chains?

106.069 - 119.592 Tim Miller

But up first, he's the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic. You might have heard of that magazine. We have guests from there from time to time. And he's moderator of Washington Week with The Atlantic. It's Jeffrey Goldberg. How are you doing, Jeff? I'm good. How are you? I'm doing pretty well.

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119.893 - 121.334 Jeffrey Goldberg

What are you wearing?

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Chapter 4: How is the U.S. perceived in the context of global power dynamics?

121.594 - 142.135 Tim Miller

What does that say? It says broadcast love. It's a patch at a woman, at a hippie woman at the Venice market. You know, what do the libs call this stuff where you have, you know, food and stands. Yeah, the farmer's market. Which one? The one in Venice, California. Oh, Venice. I thought you said Van Ness in Washington. That's another good one.

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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the Iran war for U.S.-China relations?

142.596 - 158.837 Tim Miller

She came up to me and said that she had all her family used to be Republicans. She can't talk to them anymore. And I'm her only lifeline. And she wants to give me gifts. And so she made me a patch and a little piece of art. And it was very nice. It was a very sweet moment. We had embraced. Are you a Republican? I'm not.

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Chapter 6: How are American Jews reacting to Israel's political shifts?

158.857 - 172.879 Tim Miller

No, I haven't been since, what, 2020? I can't remember. Yeah, it was the period between. What are you now? I mean, I am a podcaster now. I'm a content creator. Oh, is that a party? Well, kind of. I mean, we're growing.

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172.919 - 173.881 Jeffrey Goldberg

I mean, it is a party.

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Chapter 7: What role does economic strategy play in the Iran conflict?

174.321 - 196.767 Tim Miller

We're growing in numbers. I mean, I'm functionally a Democrat. I voted for one Republican since 2016. What do you believe in? Like, are you a conservative Democrat? I love having Jeffrey Goldberg on the show because it's like immediately I get to be in the guest seat, which is way more fun than asking the questions. Yeah, but what do you believe in? Do you still have conservative ideals?

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197.369 - 205.483 Tim Miller

You know, I talked about this at great length for like probably over an hour on an Atlantic podcast. Sponsored podcast, The David Frum Show.

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Chapter 8: What are the potential long-term effects of the Iran war on global markets?

205.504 - 206.284 Jeffrey Goldberg

I missed that episode.

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206.304 - 210.429 Tim Miller

And he asked me about this just like a week ago. No, so it's fine. So if you want the long story, it's that.

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210.89 - 216.156 Jeffrey Goldberg

I listen to all our podcasts, Atlantic staff. Sometimes they stack up.

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216.176 - 235.423 Tim Miller

Okay, well, good. When you get to this one and you get to this one in the queue, you can get the long answer. The short answer is I'm a small L liberal. And we only have one small L liberal party in the country anymore. And so for a while, I'm with them. The DSA. No, the Democrats, not the DSA. So for a while I'm with them functionally.

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But you're willing to move back to a reformed Republican party. I don't think that's going to happen. No, I don't.

243.16 - 244.784 Jeffrey Goldberg

But I'm not asking you whether you think it's going to happen.

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I'm asking you if it did happen, would you move back? I mean, sure. I don't know. Like if, if, if, if the Democrats became illiberal and then, you know, classical liberalism reemerged and the spirit of free markets and free people reemerged in the Republican party. Could I switch sometime in old age? Like, yeah, I guess. Sure. Anything could happen.

261.124 - 276.278 Tim Miller

But I think more likely is the Republicans will start looking more like foreign conservative parties around the world, which are blood and soil nationalist parties. That's the right thing party in almost every country, except for in the Anglosphere. I don't see why that, that wouldn't be our trajectory.

276.95 - 284.569 Jeffrey Goldberg

Okay, thanks. My guest has been Tim Miller. All right, great. We'll come back after our advertising from Budapest Cruise Lines.

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