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The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 3 – Dan Wetzel, NCAA Handcuffed

09 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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Chapter 2: What is the significance of the Texas 99th District Court ruling?

569.719 - 574.105 Dan Patrick

And that lowers the burden of the plaintiff because all you have to do is say, hey, I got

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574.085 - 598.033 Dan Patrick

kind of have a compelling argument here so then they'll give him an injunction but by the time the case would ever get through the slow moving courts and through all of the process the texas tech season will almost assuredly be over and then you just drop the case sorsby moves on uh so uh he's got a temporary injunction but it is a it is a shocking and quite frankly ridiculous uh decision

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598.013 - 624.171 Dan Patrick

Yeah, I had a source tell me this morning that the appeal wouldn't be heard until February of 2027. How accountable is Texas Tech? How accountable is the Big 12 in what they could do in this situation? Well, I mean, look, Texas Tech doesn't have to play them, right? So Texas Tech could sit there and say, hey, look, we take these rules seriously. We think you violated them.

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Even if you get an injunction, you know, you can you can be on. I don't know what if they have to be on the team. I'm not sure how that would all work out. They support this fully.

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and there's certainly a tremendous amount of backlash against texas tech for doing that because again this is you you can hate every ncaa rule ever written but not this one i mean this is the same rule that everybody has you can hope the ncaa goes away they would have to create a new organization to do basic rules like hey you're not allowed to bet on your own team um there's really not anybody arguing that that's a great idea so texas tech could do that but

661.565 - 681.545 Dan Patrick

In fairness to Texas Tech, that level of personal accountability, personal responsibility, self-punishment, that has gone out of the culture probably at large, but certainly in college athletics for decades now. Everybody sues for everything to try to get any little advantage.

Chapter 3: How does Brendan Sorsby's gambling history affect his eligibility?

681.685 - 703.824 Dan Patrick

And it's basically, well, the other guys do it, too. So while there's a lot of backlash against Texas Tech and maybe you could say, hey, look, be great if they did this and said, we're just not going to be a part of it. It's not particularly realistic in the in the landscape of college athletics right now. What about the I still think we're going to get conferences who will govern themselves.

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704.024 - 729.638 Dan Patrick

And that's where the Big 12 could play a role in this. What do you think about that? Yeah, absolutely. So if you look back to, say, the Michigan sign stealing scandal, the Big Ten stepped in and said, OK, we need to this is going to take too long. We want to punish in real time. uh, Michigan and they came in and, uh, laid a three game suspension down on Jim Harbaugh.

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729.718 - 746.502 Dan Patrick

So the head coach has got to sit three games. And if you remember, it's the Penn state game, a Maryland game, and then at Ohio state. So it was this huge, uh, or home against Ohio state, but, uh, at Penn state, uh, whatever. So there's a big penalty. You lost your head coach. Michigan was going to file for a temporary injunction on that.

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They ended up not, uh, and so Harbaugh ended up sitting, but that would kind of be your, uh, you know your your your your your idea there your game plan if they want to do that but i don't know that this injunction would even allow that and i don't know whether the big twelve wants to get involved in selective uh... punishment like that it was a very dicey move by the big ten also because

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770.071 - 788.012 Dan Patrick

Every school or almost every school has some incident coming where you once you open Pandora's box of, well, we're going to step in and do the right thing here. That becomes a selective enforcement and you open up your conference office to its own thing. So could the Big Ten or Big 12 do it?

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potentially if they have the will and the want, they still would be, I'm sure, under legal a bit, and they could go back to the exact same judge and say, well, the NCAA can't do it. Why can't the Big 12? So I expect Brendan Sorsby to play. Talking to Dan Wetzel, ESPN senior writer. But the precedent is being set where I can just say, if I don't get to play, it does irreparable harm to me.

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No matter what I'm guilty of, Isn't that going to be an out for athletes moving forward? Absolutely. Really, the bulk of this argument was that Sorsby had an addiction as a medical condition, which we know gambling addictions are real, and they're prevalent, and the way these sports apps and stuff like that are more and more problematic every day.

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And certainly someone who risks a $5 million payday to bet small amounts on baseball games and European pro leagues and stuff is almost the definition of a problem. So we're cognizant and respectful of that. At the same time, just because you have an addiction doesn't mean you should be... you know, cleared of all of the wrongdoing you did under that addiction.

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And that's what they're arguing as well. This is a medical condition. And then further, the NCAA has a stated policy where one of their goals is to aid in the mental health of the athletes, which is, you know, a pretty broad statement. Well, they're saying, look, if you don't allow me to play, it'll impact negatively my mental health and potentially impact negatively my recovery.

Chapter 4: What arguments are made for Sorsby's temporary injunction?

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That's going to do irreparable harm. But, yeah, the real reason for my call is just to shout out my favorite part of watching this series, the NBA Finals, is the on-ball defense from Stephon Castle and especially Dylan Harper. I mean, Dylan Harper is five years from now.

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2002.613 - 2013.182 Isaiah Thomas

I don't know the last time I've seen a rookie play so groaned. And just watch those two on Jalen Brunson, if nothing else.

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That's the reason that Jalen Brunson has taken so many shots at such a low clip. Yeah, Castle's playing great defense. And when you get size and you get strength and you can kind of manipulate Jalen Brunson a little bit, that he might be going left, you make him go left and go a little further out of his comfort zone. But I think they've done a wonderful job with that.

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They truly have a philosophy in place. Stephon Castle picking Jalen Brunson up, three-quarters court. I don't want Brunson bringing the ball up. I can't have him get into the front court with 10 seconds to go and be tired. Rich in North Carolina. Hi, Rich. Thanks for taking my call. Second time, long time, 6-2, 2-19.

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If we took 7-5 Wimby and put him up against a 7-2 Mountain of a Man, Wilt Chamberlain, what would that matchup look like? Well, it's just different. It's hard to do that. Wilt was an incredible athlete. He was a great track and field. He was great in volleyball. He was great in basketball. He was ahead of his time. If he was developing now, it would be different. He would be different.

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He would be far more skilled. I mean, back then, he was just bigger than everybody, stronger than everybody. But he would body. I remember Wilt going against Kareem, Lew Alcindor. He was blocking his sky hook. I'd never seen that before or since then. Wilt was a, and this is at the end of his career, right?

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But, yeah, is, you know, Christopher Mad Dog Russo is like, oh, you know, Wemby is not Kareem. No, no, he's not. Nobody is. But he might be that guy that somebody says, this player is no Wemby 30 years from now. It's tricky when you do these comparisons. Now, you kind of stay in your generation. That's the best way to go about it. You know, Bob Cousy couldn't play now in the NBA.

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But if Bob Cousy grew up in today's world, Bob Cousy would adapt. Like they all would. Yes, Marvin. A thing that Wimby did yesterday that I love, that Spurs did it as a whole, They were lobbing it up to him. Like, you know what? Let's use the 7-4 size. He's getting the ball where nobody else can get it. They probably threw, what, three or four lobs. Eight easy points.

2186.169 - 2212.279 Dan Patrick

Yeah, I said, you know, yesterday, throw it up to where only he can get it. Maybe you get fouled. Maybe you get a dunk. Maybe you get both. But be inside. Because if you play outside, you're playing into Carl Anthony Towns' hands. If you go inside, you're taller than everybody. And Carl Anthony Towns in the first two games did a great job.

Chapter 5: How does this ruling impact the NCAA's authority?

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You saw Wemby be Wemby last night. And look at his numbers. He's shooting 50% from the floor, averaging like 27 a game and whatever, you know, 10 rebounds. These are all really good numbers. It's just we expect Wemby to be 35, 15, and 7 blocks. I mean, that's really high praise for him that we're disappointed because he only put up 30. He only had eight rebounds. He's playing 39 minutes a game.

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He's playing more minutes than anybody. Yeah, Marv. I love the Wemby effect, watching guys from the Knicks go to the hole and not even attempt to put the ball up.

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2259.502 - 2263.989 Theo Henderson

Oh, Landry Shamit, he tried to put one up. Wemby pinned it against the basket.

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He's got that make-up reach. They talk about make-up speed, but he has make-up reach, where, okay, I got by you, and you think you've got that layup, and that's when it's like, nope. Yeah, Dillon. There was one play yesterday, too, where I think it might have been Castle nuked the ball, looked like it was going well out of bounds by the baseline, and you just see this arm come up.

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He's the only guy in the NBA who could have caught it. I was like, oh, he just mailed that out of bounds. Last call for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store tomorrow, right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsportsradio.com. And within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live.

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We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

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Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

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We're the first people to do podcasts.

Chapter 6: What precedents are set by this case for college athletes?

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Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets. Meeting the president of Turkey.

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When Jacob met Levant, this went to a billion dollar fraud.

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But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive?

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the largest tax investigation in American history.

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Jacob told LaVon, you're ruining my life.

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Chapter 7: How does the NCAA's gambling policy compare to other leagues?

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The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though.

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Are they the only ones that don't like soccer?

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Actually, nobody likes that.

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Last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in store tomorrow. My Golden Knights hosting game four, ABC, 8 Eastern. That's been the great thing, or one of the great things, about the playoffs. Stanley Cup final, ABC. Easy for everybody to find. NBA finals, got it on ABC. Easy to find.

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Stat of the Day has been brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Final results of the poll question, this day in sports history. I think we should have a World Cup draft tomorrow because the World Cup starts on Thursday. Snake draft? We can do that. We can do that. We take two countries? Two countries. Okay. Or do we do three? Whoa.

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There are more countries this year. There are. There's a lot of them. Are there 32? 32 countries involved? I thought it was even more than that, is it? Is it 48? It is now 48. It used to be 30. Oh, so this is their March Madness. They're expanding. Yes, every four years. So everybody gets in. It's no big deal to have a team in the World Cup. That's what we're saying.

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No coach is going to get fired. Well, it's not like there's 57 countries worldwide. It's a little. How many countries are there worldwide? I have no idea. Let's play close. Countries? Total. Todd, how about you? I know there's seven continents. I'm going to say there's 107 countries in the world. Okay. Or 43. All right. Dylan, how many countries are there in the world? I'm going to go 271.

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All right. Marvin? 258. All right. Paul? I was going to guess like 240. Well, then guess 240.

Chapter 8: What are the broader implications for college sports governance?

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Yeah, 240. You sound like Todd. I was going to. Well, I just looked it up. Oh, you did? Yes. Oh, so you know what the answer is. I just looked it up. Oh, before you gave me 240. There are. Wait. I didn't make my. Okay. I think there's a lot more than you think. I'm going to go 219 countries. I got 195 recognized countries in the world.

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2689.737 - 2708.182 Dan Patrick

Well, there's other ones that I recognize that get me up to 219. You better recognize them. Yeah. I'm going to recognize an extra 76 there, I think. Yes, Todd. Who are the board of directors that you have to go in front of and say, here's the reasons why we should be seen as a country? How does that work? I don't know. I don't know how you qualify. How do you get recognized as a country?

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There's only 12 of us, but hey, we have a chief export of some petroleum product. Like an application you fill out to be a country? Yeah, Paul. Probably. I'd rather be a territory. Less pressure. Don't have to have a government. Just hanging out. Yeah, like the Virgin Islands. Aren't they a territory? Sure. Yes, Todd. No one overthrows a territory. They overthrow a country. Exactly.

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2729.432 - 2743.352 Dan Patrick

We're a coup on a country. You never hear, the territory was taken over last Thursday. But can you rule as a dictator in a territory? No, you don't want to be. You should be hanging out. Like those beach umbrellas. Are territories always exotic places? Checking. Yes. Yes, Dylan.

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2743.332 - 2778.104 Dan Patrick

Well, those numbers are kind of inflated because at one point it was just Yugoslavia, and now that's like 30 other countries. So I choose to recognize Yugoslavia. Oh, you better recognize. Don in Iowa. Hi, Don. What do you have for me today? Hey, Dan. 6'2", 150. New dad bod with 18 inches and 6 pounds and 3 ounces. Congratulations. Thank you so much, Dan. New baby girl, Mindy Loretta Staggett.

2778.905 - 2800.846 Dan Patrick

She was a surprise to get here. She came at 2.30 last night. We got here at 11.30 at the hospital, and we're ready to go. Well, good luck. Good luck. And my advice to you is always listen to your girls. Always. They'll tell you everything. Yes, Todd.

2800.866 - 2809.041 Isaiah Thomas

He just had a baby nine hours ago, and he's calling a Dan Patrick show. He didn't have it. But still, you just became a baby within nine, ten hours, and he wanted to make sure he spoke with you.

2809.722 - 2835.265 Dan Patrick

I know, but he's just the father of the baby. Yeah, she did all the work. That's fair. Yes, Marvin. He did kind of work. But also, give your wife a break. Oh, yeah. Give your wife a break, please. Yes. Being in the delivery room, you see some things. Yeah. You got to make sure that there's a day where you say, hon, I got the baby. You go. You have a spa day.

2835.285 - 2859.148 Dan Patrick

I was just going to say, like, go to the mall for an hour. But, okay, yeah, spa day's cool. All right. Oh, I'm sure that's what you want. Hey, I'm going to be on my feet and walk around the mall. When's the last time you walked around the mall? Dylan? Probably Christmas Eve of every year. That's sad. Last minute gift. Oh, yeah. I'm a last minute guy. Paul in Iowa. Hi, Paul.

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