The Megyn Kelly Show
Katie Porter MELTDOWN, and Obama's Marriage Tension, with Sohrab Ahmari and Sean Davis, Plus Justice Gorsuch on America's 250th Birthday | Ep. 1311
06 May 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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We'll get into what insiders to the couple are saying now about Ryan Reynolds skipping that event. Plus, Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch will be here next hour. I've been doing a deep dive on him in preparation for this. And there are so many fun facts about Justice Gorsuch that you did not know about and his education. And he was like an open conservative at Harvard Law School. Imagine that.
I mean, truly, like and obviously he's lived those principles. So what does he think about conservatives in school today? Should they play along? Should they go along with the liberal professor's dogma in order to get the A? You know, those who want to get into Harvard Law School, who better to ask than this guy?
He's a fascinating man, and he's got a new book out, too, which I think you're going to love in advance of our 250th birthday. So stay tuned for that second hour. But we start today with all the wild moments from last night's California gubernatorial debate. Katie Porter is unhinged. She is emotionally unregulated, and I am here for it. She's our favorite.
Technically, we do want Steve Hilton to win, but if we cannot have Steve, we definitely want it to be Katie, because if it's not Steve, let's face it, we'll be stuck with one of these Dems. Might as well be somebody who entertains us. From Porter blurting out, Donald Trump sucks, to very clearly trying to hold back tears. What was it about? Was it about homeless people?
Was it about drug-addicted Californians? Was it about Californians who have been murdered by illegals? No, it was about herself. It was about her controversy over being emotionally unregulated and angry all the time. That's what broke her. Wait till you see this. She was like, you could hear the voice crackling. It was definitely a debate to remember.
Mail-in voting is already underway in this contest for who's going to run California in the gubernatorial house. Gavin Newsom, term limited, and he's got to go. He may be all of our problem soon. And somebody's got to take over the role. The primary is June 2nd, and the top two candidates from this crowded field are will go on to compete against each other in the general election.
There are two very strong Republicans in the race. I mean, it's just a fantasy that both of them could be the top two and that for sure that would lead to a Republican running California. But it's a fun fantasy. Seven candidates, seven were on stage last night. According to the RCP average of all polls, Republican Steve Hilton is in first place, as he has been from the beginning.
He's followed by billionaire Tom Steyer, a Dem, Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco, a Republican who is in third. In fourth place, former state attorney general and former HHS secretary to Joe Biden, Xavier Becerra. In fifth. Former U.S. Representative Katie Porter. Keep an open mind, people. And then there's San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan. Former L.A.
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Chapter 2: What happened during Katie Porter's meltdown at the California gubernatorial debate?
Get out of my fucking shot. I wanted to tell you that that's actually incorrect. It's not that it's electric vehicles. It's that if we don't meet the commitments under the Paris Climate Accord. Okay. You also were in my shot before that. Stay out of my shot. OK, I'm going to start again with electric vehicle saving us money.
Perfect.
OK. I mean, I've said before, I would not be happy if one of my team members got in my live shot and then tried to correct something I had said. It wasn't live, I think was the point. And this staffer thought she was saving Katie Porter from saying something dumb that was wrong in a pre-taped exchange. And clearly, Porter realized she could redo it, which she then did.
But that moment has haunted her because it dovetails with all the other things that we've heard about her. You know, the Daily Mail did great reporting. By the way, this all was discussed and came out in October of 2025. They've done great reporting. You know, yeah, the fact that she was apparently abusive to her ex-husband. He accused her of dumping scalding mashed potatoes over his head.
She can't control her... her emotions, my friends. So in any event, finally, we get around to whatever that is, October to now, and what, eight months? And she's finally decided through her team that as she runs for the governor's position, the best way to deal with that is to mock it. You tell me whether she does that effectively in this ad.
I'm Katie Porter, and I'm not like most people who run for governor. I actually get what you're going through. A single mom of three kids, I know what it's like to push the shopping cart. My minivan has almost 200,000 miles. I have a grown kid who may soon be living on my couch.
To give Californians what they need, it's going to take standing up to Donald Trump, calling out greedy corporations, and stepping on some toes along the way. Now, could you guys please get out of my shot?
Ha ha ha, cue the hearty laughter by the people holding signs behind her. Okay, it's amazing that just being a normal person, she wants props for going to the grocery store. How is this a job qualifier? Don't you all go? I go to the grocery store. I probably have, you know, more money than Katie Porter.
I go like most normal people go to the grocery store and you're not special that you have a minivan either. I mean, ours is a Chevy Suburban, but it's a large vehicle to get around our kids. Like, a lot of people have large vehicles to get around their children. She wants you to know it has 200,000 miles on it. Okay. I mean, great. That's good.
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Chapter 3: How does Katie Porter address her past controversies in her campaign?
And here you're about to see her snap. This Bianco kind of kept needling her a little and it worked. Watch.
I can't believe that on a stage with 30 minutes of interrupting and bickering and name calling and shouting and disrespect for everyone up here who's stepping into public service that anyone wants to talk about my temperament.
You were actually interrupting them too. I don't know why you want to act like you weren't. Oh, cowboy up.
Oh, cowboy up. Okay, which is it? We need to object when they interrupt us? Or if you raise the fact that someone's interrupted you, you need to cowboy up. Pick a lane, my dear. Because your messaging there is not exactly consistent. Maybe you need to cowboy up. Because you're the one who continues to raise their behavior and their interruptions on this stage, which is it?
Like, you can complain about it or you can't. Because all Chad Bianco was trying to say was, you've been interrupting too, which really isn't that big a slight. You know what I mean? Like, get it together. Pick a lane. That's all. Now, she's not dumb, this gal. She's unhinged, but she's not dumb. When all else fails, as a Democrat, you know what to do. Attack Donald Trump.
Congresswoman Porter, what's your view? What's your response? Donald Trump sucks. And I don't think that anyone who doesn't see that he is targeting and hurting Californians and won't stand up for everybody who is counting on them to be their leader and keep them safe has no business being governor. Congresswoman Porter, thank you.
There you go, baby. You nailed it. Trump sucks. That's really all you have to say to get elected in California. I mean, like that really forget all the nonsense about your your minivan and your grocery cart and your cowboy up and you're crying over your car. Just keep saying that. That's what they want to hear. Those are the sweet nothings that will cause them to lift up the dress.
It's Donald Trump sucks. That's all you need. Those are the magic words. Remember in Family Man, one of my favorite movies, Nicolas Cage is pretending to be, well, he gets put into another version of his own life and he's back with Taya Leone and he's married to this woman, but it's an alternate life. So he doesn't have any memories of what it's like to be married to this woman, Taya Leone.
It's a great movie if you haven't seen it. It's kind of a Christmas special. And he wants eventually to like go to bed with her. She is his wife. She thinks it's her normal old husband. She doesn't realize it's kind of her husband from an alternate universe. He's trying to figure out what to say to her. She says, you know what to say to me? You know what to say to me? To make things happen.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Sohrab Ahmari provide about California's political landscape?
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I'm Katie Porter, the star of the evening.
Well, let he who has never used a potato as a weapon cast the first stone here. I love everything about her. I love that she's a nut job. I love that she's reading her stage directions up on behind the podium. It reminded me of that famous, I think it was a 1992 New Hampshire town hall that George H.W.
Bush did where he said, message, I care, because I guess there was a cue card that said message, colon, I care. I care. So message. I'm not crazy message. I'm likable. I'm looking forward to the next debate where she just says, look, everyone knows that I'm the most likable because that's the message is that I'm likable. So, yeah, she's totally not.
And I can make fun of myself.
And let's talk about her shot that the staffer was in is if the staffer was the bad part of that shot. Like what part of messy kitchen did she think was like a really good aesthetic there? Like the staffer in the mask was the least offensive thing about that shot. But, you know, Katie Porter.
She fits in perfectly with the California Democrat Party because they understand, as the National Democrat Party does, that their foundation is illegal immigration. And so, you know, you would think that if they had wanted illegals to come in, they would strike some kind of bargain like, hey, guys, we're going to let all these illegals in, but don't worry, it'll be OK.
They're going to pay for all of your stuff. You know, I don't think it'd be a great idea, but that might be a bargain some people would go for. But instead, the Democrats are like, hey, we're going to have an invasion of illegal immigrants. They're going to take over your country. And in return, you're not getting anything for free.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Obama's marriage tensions as discussed in this episode?
Barack Ravid, who's constantly saying there's a deal. There's a deal. There's a deal. This guy served in the IDF. And literally not one of them has proven to be true. Not one. So I hesitate to even cite this guy. But once again, he is saying that there is a deal and it's allegedly a 14 point deal, at least potentially a deal and goes through like what the what the points might be. They include.
OK, let's see. A moratorium on uranium enrichment, this piece is dovetailed by Axios, a possible moratorium on uranium enrichment that could go 12 years to 15. Iran wants it to be five, reportedly. We wanted it to be 20. We wanted a provision whereby any Iranian violation on enrichment would prolong the moratorium. But after the moratorium, they could enrich to the low level of 3.67%.
By the way, that's exactly the same amount as Barack Obama's deal that Trump said he hated, the JCPOA. It would commit to Iran never, never seeking a nuclear weapon. And according to a U.S.
official reports Axios, the parties are discussing a clause where Iran would commit not to operate underground nuclear facilities and would commit to it an enhanced inspections regime, including snap inspections by U.N. inspectors. Then two sources with knowledge, this is Axios, also claim that Iran would agree to remove its highly enriched uranium from from the country.
They'd been haggling over that. Iran originally said, no, we said, give it to us. There was talk about giving it to a third party. This says one source says an option is moving the material to the United States. And in return, there would be a gradual lifting of our sanctions imposed on Iran, the gradual release of billions of dollars in Iranian funds that are frozen around the world.
In one of the deals earlier that fell apart, we had proposed the release of 20 billion in frozen Iranian assets. So we don't know what the actual number of billions is that we'd be releasing to them, but a lot of billions, Saurabh. And all of this is to get them...
to open up the Strait of Hormuz and make promises to us on uranium enrichment and pursuit of a nuclear weapon that we were already well down the line in negotiating with them when we started this war. So your reaction to that news?
Look, like you, I'm a little bit skeptical every time there is this hyping of a deal. I watch Iranian state TV all the time and they seem to think that they have the upper hand. Of course, they also propagandize as well. What we do know is this for a fact is that the tone from the Trump administration has shifted from the president himself to
Yesterday, I believe he said something like, I'm pausing Operation Freedom, which was this effort to escort vessels through the Strait of Hormuz. I'm going to put a pause to that. And the fact that he downplayed the extent of the Iranian response, the Iranians that attacked the UAE as this facility that they had hit. And he sort of said, it wasn't that much.
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Chapter 6: What does Justice Gorsuch say about America's founding principles?
And I do think, yes, you need to stand up and be counted, but make sure you do it for the right reasons and with full knowledge of what you're involved in.
I think some people believe that we were a hardier stock back then. I don't. But I know I cover the news. Yeah, I cover the news every day. I was going to say some people are weaker today and some people were weaker back then. But we still have a lot of strong people, old and young. What's your take on it?
Absolutely. You know, people people ask me all the time, are you an optimist or a pessimist? And I struggle with that. But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, I'm an optimist. I just spent yesterday at the Reagan Library talking to kids. It was fantastic. It's amazing. And I remember his optimism for the country, right? America's days were ahead of us, he said, in 1980.
Well, I remember 1980. And we had inflation and interest rates about 20%. We couldn't fly a helicopter across the desert to rescue hostages. Everybody was lining up for gasoline. Vietnam, Watergate, the riots of the 60s. People really did think America's best days were behind. And he said no. And I don't see any reason why we should disagree with Ronald Reagan's assessment today.
And so, yes, I am an optimist, but I do think it takes courage, right? Somebody has to run the zoo. And so those brave young people, get yourself educated and then get involved.
Now, I understand you, because after you went to Columbia for college, to Harvard for law school, and then you wound up in Oxford for, if I'm not mistaken, a degree, an advanced degree in philosophy. And there you met your beautiful wife, and she's a Brit?
Yeah.
She's a proud Brit, but she's a proud American, too. She took the citizenship test, which, you know, distresses me to know that only about six in 10 adult Americans can pass the citizenship. Megan, it is not hard. I helped her study for it. But she loved it.
Was there any tension in you writing the book, you know, when you got to the part of the separation?
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Chapter 7: How does Gorsuch's new book relate to America's 250th birthday?
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Hey everyone, it's me, Megyn Kelly. I've got some exciting news. I now have my very own channel on SiriusXM. It's called the Megyn Kelly Channel, and it is where you will hear the truth, unfiltered, with no agenda, and no apologies.
Along with the Megyn Kelly Show, you're going to hear from people like Mark Halperin, Link Loren, Maureen Callahan, Emily Jaschinski, Jesse Kelly, Real Clear Politics, and many more. It's bold, no BS news, only on the Megyn Kelly Channel, SiriusXM 111, and on the SiriusXM app. We go from Justice Neil Gorsuch to Blake Lively and J.P. Morgan.
And there's some very interesting news on Kim Kardashian. Legal news, that is. But I didn't have it in me to ask Justice Gorsuch about it.
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Chapter 8: What recent updates are there on the Blake Lively and J.P. Morgan case?
Rana did not accept or reject it in early April. So now we're getting closer to when he filed. He was let go from his new job. Let go. Okay, that's crazy talk. Last week, Ronna's lawyers filed a lawsuit in New York State Court. Yes, Jane Doe. The lawyer's now saying the original lawsuit was not withdrawn.
After filing, the court clerk informed us that the suit required review and sign off from the judge before it could be filed under a pseudonym John Doe. Upon signature by the judge, the suit was formally filed under a pseudonym. I mean, what's the point now? Everybody knows his name. And by the way, we should know his name.
It's crazy how we afford this cloak of anonymity to anybody claiming that they were assaulted sexually or, God forbid, a rape victim. It's not that I have no empathy for them. It's just not fair. It's like if the defendant's going to have his or her name dragged through the mud as this poor Lorna Hajdini is—
The plaintiff ought to be willing to be identified and to stand behind his or her allegations. Through a JP Morgan spokesperson, Hajdini's lawyers say she continues to categorically deny these allegations. She never dated this individual, never had a sexual or romantic encounter with him of any kind. That's actually a much stronger statement than what we knew of earlier. That is categorical.
Categorically denies the allegations, never dated him, never had a sexual or romantic encounter with him of any kind, never gave him any drugs. That's a good denial. we shall see as this weird, weird case continues to play out. Thank you. Thank you all so much for joining us. It's been quite a show, hasn't it?
I don't even remember, like we started with crazy Katie Porter, went to Iran, Justice Gorsuch, Kim Kardashian, JP Morgan, Blake Lively, just a typical day here on the MK show. Thanks for being along for the ride. Tucker Carlson's my guest tomorrow. That'll be fun too. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.
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