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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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You're listening to the program here on Sports Radio 810 WHB. A man who makes love out of nothing at all. Matt Derrick, publisher. Chiefs Digest joins us to talk some Chiefs football. Matt, how are you, buddy?
I'm doing great, although I usually feel like I'm the exact opposite of that song. I make nothing out of everything.
Okay. Nothing out of love. I like it. Nothing at all out of love. That was me. Good to know. I want to start with this. Jazoo Jay called in a little bit ago, and he posed the question, if the Chiefs knew today, or knew on draft day what they know today, that Rashi Rice is back in jail and is doing however the rehab, going to the hospital, whatever it is. It's obviously not ideal.
It's better than what the average Joe would get for rehab. But do you think that they would still take Mansoor Delane if they knew this about Rashi Rice at that time?
That's an interesting question. And I think they would still take Delane.
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Chapter 2: What insights does Matt Derrick provide about Rashee Rice's situation?
Taking them at their word that, they felt that Delane was the best corner in this draft. I think they would absolutely still have him on the board at that spot. Question is, would they take another receiver?
And I think it would be more likely that they might consider a receiver later, you know, either in the Peter Woods spot or maybe in the R. Mason Thomas spot, because I get the sense at the end of the day that they just didn't think that any of those receivers in the draft, for the most part, were worth the six or the nine pick.
Otherwise, I think that, hey, there wouldn't have been necessarily any reason not to stand pat and wait for one of those guys and see what happened. I mean, maybe they would have settled for one of them, but they felt like Delane was the guy, and that was a... just as big of a need, I think, as receiver after the Trent McDuffie trade.
I think Cardinal Tate's the only one we don't know about, right? Because he was off the board. He was gone. That's the one guy that could change the calculus. And the rumblings that I hear are that when he was that dead, he would have been in the mix, right? If Delane had gone five and Tate had lasted to nine and they felt like they could get Tate at nine, maybe they would have stayed at nine.
But I think they felt like... The top of the board would go the way the top of the board went. And then it was a matter of, would Tate or Delane be there? And so, do they press harder to move up to five? to four to get to Tate if they knew this was coming with Rashi Rice? I'm kind of with you. I don't think so.
I think they may have liked Tate, but I don't think they were going to grossly overpay to get him. I think the corner was the bigger need in their mind at that time. Again, this whole question is based upon changing the calculus of, you know, back then you thought Rashi Rice was going to be ready to go for minicamp, and now he's not.
But I think they probably do it the same because I think corner was the bigger need.
Yeah, I think so. And remember, I mean, in the grand calculus, you know, what were they really putting at risk, you know, as far as Rasheed Rice on draft day that was any different? I mean, you know, you have the exact same room. The only thing, your only calculation is that you have one year of Rasheed Rice, and that's it.
I mean, otherwise, I mean, I think you almost just assume, if you're the Chiefs, that Rasheed Rice is not going to be on your team going forward. So I don't know if it would have really changed, even if you had just said, hey, Rasheed Rice is going to be out. You're not going to have him at all in 2026.
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Chapter 3: How might Rashee Rice's challenges affect the Chiefs' draft decisions?
There's no doubt about it. And I just get the sense that, like you said, I mean, as far as overpaying, I don't want to dismiss it to say that the Chiefs didn't like any of these receivers. I think that they just thought that they were double digits, guys. You know, that, hey, if you found one of these guys at 12 or 15, you'd be happy. They just didn't want to take any of them at nine.
And once they moved up to six, I mean, that was going to be Delane no matter what.
Do you think in the back of their mind they were thinking, okay, Rashi Rice's troubles gets him for cheap? I mean, when they signed Tyree Kill to his first contract extension, he had a lot going on on the side, and they were able to give him a deal that wasn't guaranteed so they could get out in case there were problems. And I think that's part of the reason why they did it.
And part of the reason why they traded him the next time. Because the next time he'd stayed out of trouble and he could demand a guaranteed contract. I don't think he was going to show up to camp. So they were going to have to give him a guaranteed contract or trade him. They traded him. He got the guaranteed contract from the Dolphins.
And I think that's why they worked that the way they worked it. Do you think they had eyes on a... where most of us are like, well, Rashi Rice, it's one in the door. Do you think that they were seeing it as, okay, we get a discount and no guaranteed money because of the problems? He's going to have to take it. Do you think they were thinking it's a path to getting him signed?
Yeah, I mean, I definitely thought that the Chiefs felt that there was a chance that they could get him signed, that there was just enough desperation there to a degree that he might agree to it. Has that changed now? Yeah, I think it has changed. And what I wondered, I think it's probably changed a little bit on both sides.
Because, one, something could have gotten done if Rasheed Rice wanted it done. You know, say it's May 1st. I mean, if he wanted something to get done, it could have happened. Because the Chiefs were, I think, willing to deal. And, yes, it would have looked a lot like the Tyreek Hill contract.
Maybe even more team favorable, because I think not only would it have been the ability to walk after every year, but... The trigger guarantees, I think, would have been more team favorable, probably less of a guarantee up front, especially as far as the signing bonus. I think there might have been some roster bonuses in there, too.
I mean, it would have been, like I said, pretty team favorable, and that's what the Chiefs would have agreed to. But Rasheed Rice, by all accounts, seemed to have in his mind that he goes out and has a career year this year and that there's some sort of jackpot of money waiting for him at the end of the season.
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Chapter 4: What does Matt Derrick think about the Chiefs' cornerback depth?
It ain't going away. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I wonder what the Chiefs told him about that. Like, if you were Andy Reid, wouldn't you be like, yeah, listen, no more of this crap. Go get this stuff taken care of so we know that football's important to you. I mean, that's the thing that I keep coming back to. I mean, football's just not that important to the guy. Period.
You know, and if you're the Chiefs like and I think, listen, I mentioned it. Who's the kid, the Georgia whiteout who made a Star Wars movie? Chris Conley. Chris Conley. You know, I said at the time, there is no way, no way that he would have been drafted by the previous regime. They didn't want anybody who wanted anything to do other than football. And the Chiefs were like, well, wait a minute.
I remember talking about it. His athletic scores, he's Julio Jones. His size, his weight, his broad jump is 40. He was Julio Jones. Football was more important to Julio Jones than Chris Conley, which makes Chris Conley probably a... I mean, I don't know anything about Julio Jones, but he's a well-rounded guy with interest beyond football.
But that doesn't necessarily make you the best wide receiver prospect when you have those other interests. Rashi Rice has other interests. Speeding, racing, weed. You know, he has other interests that are just as important or more important than football. It's... you know, it's an even bigger problem when it's things that are illegal.
Yeah, it's interesting to think about because, I mean, I feel like that the Chiefs generally, they do put an emphasis on that whole interest in football thing. But, you know, if you look at both the Dorsey and the Veach eras, I mean, they've taken plenty of guys that clearly have other interests. I mean, I think you could probably put Dee Ford in that category.
of players who had, you know, other interests other than just playing football. And D always struck me as just about one of the most laid-back dudes I've ever met. And, you know, it kind of is the same way a little bit with Rasheed. I mean, Rasheed's a pretty laid-back dude. And you hear ā talk to people in the organization, and they'll tell you that he's just like ā
the happiest-go-lucky guy in the building. And, you know, and it's just like, does he truly understand just how much is going on around him? Or does he not care? Or I don't know. Or is he just that chill? I mean, there are some guys who are just that chill.
Yeah. Scott Buehle took Justin Houston, who had, back in the day when marijuana was illegal everywhere, who had a positive test at the Combine, and the feeling was, well, how important is football to the guy if he can't even, you know, knows the drug test is coming at the Combine and he fails that? You know, he dug deeper, and it turns out football is pretty important to Justin Houston. Right.
I mean, to your point about lots of guys. And I agree with you. I mean, lots of young people, most young people. That's that's the way of the world today. But, you know, back then it was a little bit different. But Justin Houston, they got in the third round. It worked out. You know, weed is different than firing a gun into a car. Yeah.
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