The Sheet with Jeff Marek
Ducks Even Series, Sabres Take Game 1, & Gavin McKenna ft. Pat Brisson & Greg Wyshynski
07 May 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Okay, I am Jeff. He is Greg. This is, once again, the MVSW edition of The Sheet. Let me turn the sound down on my laptop. There we go. Be a professional, Merrick, for the first time in your life. Welcome to the program for this Thursday, May the 7th.
Glad to have you aboard today, whether you are using your ears, whether you're using your eyeballs, or whether you are using both for maximum effect. Here he is, Greg Wyshynski from ESPN. We've got a lot to get to today. I'm going to go over that in a couple of seconds. We'll talk about Gavin McKenna with his agents, the one and only Pat Brisson of CAA.
In the meantime, just a little quickie here before we get to the show. How was the draft lottery, Greg Wyshynski?
Oh, right. We haven't spoken since then. No, we haven't. Well, I got to tell you, I got a little frostbite because obviously when they took the balls out of the freezer that came up for the Leafs, the blast of cold air singed my fingers. Balls out of the freezer?
Chapter 2: What are the latest updates on the Stanley Cup Playoffs?
Are you having a vasectomy?
Sorry, go ahead.
And then obviously all of my pocket change being sucked out by the magnets inside the balls was also a problem, but... Look, man, it's funny. I'm with you. I'm with everybody. It's shocking. It makes you think, how could this not be rigged when you think about what the Leafs experienced 24 hours before the draft lottery, and then they win the draft lottery, and the entire conversation changes.
Like, we're not even talking about Steve Simmons anymore. We're creating memes around Matt Sundin's reaction to winning the draft lottery. Right. It's, as we've talked about, Merrick, not my choice, not your choice, but a fascinating choice that the hockey gods have bestowed upon us. I will say, of course, the draft lottery is not rigged.
And I will say also that in the pantheon of things that the NHL does right. Making the draft lottery live and adopting the live odds that change on the fly with each ball being selected kind of World Series poker style. It's really great. It's so cool. I think they made this event so incredibly cool.
I know that people were kind of like – our friend Mike Harrington with the Buffalo News was like, how do you possibly go to a commercial before picking the final ball? Now everybody thinks it's rigged. Whatever.
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Chapter 3: How did the NHL Draft Lottery impact team strategies?
It's for the drama of it all, and I think it works. The answer after this. The answer in moments. Stay tuned.
After the break.
It's a show. It's a show, man. They've done a great job. By the way, I talked to Gary Bettman about why the ratings are up, by the way. If I may, just a pen to figure for a second. He gave me four reasons, and he reiterated this on Pat McAfee's show yesterday. Do you want to guess any of the four reasons why ratings are up in the NHL this year? I'm going to guess he said playoff format.
He did not. He said.
Are you serious? That would have been.
I would be.
If I'm the commissioner, I'm crowing about this. All of you. One versus eight. Two versus seven people. Have a look at the numbers.
I know. And he. That's a bad. That's why. That's why I didn't bring it up because I knew that's not my year to bring it up. No, I think we were talking about the season as a whole. And he said four things. He said, first of all, I think it started with four nations and they started to see a an increase in interest because of what happened in four nations between the USA and Canada.
He said the Olympics did give them a bump, you know, as we see the Americans win gold for the first time and actually get a palpable increase in interest from people. Hang on.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Greg Wyshynski share about the NHL Draft?
The Masters does this with the green jacket, actually.
There you go. There you go.
There you go.
So that'd be our green jacket. Golf's got hockey beat. Now, but you also might be able to make a compelling case because the guys respect golf at least. Like if you tell them this is like the Masters, you might get a few of them being like, oh, that's pretty dope. I love the Masters.
all right, let's start the campaign now. I've been screaming about it for years. I might as well just be talking to my dog. I don't know that it's going to go. The key to anything and the key to this is we need to figure out a way so the NHL feels that it's their idea and they came up with it, that it can't come from somewhere else.
Come on. You know what the key to this is? What's the key? The key to this is the mass mutual cup handoff The sponsorship. The weed whacker cup handoff. That's the key to it is finding someone to pony up the money to sponsor it. You know what?
You're not wrong. You're cynical as all hell, but you're not wrong. You're not wrong about this at all. Here's what's coming up on the program. More with Greg. The Blueprint, powered by FanDuel. Download the app today and play your game with FanDuel. Coming up on the program, yours truly and Greg Wyshynski will talk to Pat Brisson from CAA. Why are we talking to Pat Brisson?
He happens to represent amongst other superstar players. Oh, I don't know. Nathan McKinnon, Sidney Crosby, also represents Gavin McKenna, who's kind of been the source of a lot of conversations specifically around Toronto. We should also get into some agent issues as well with Pat coming up towards the bottom of the hour. And that is your show today. We really hope you enjoy it.
And there'll probably be some goofy ideas from yours truly and Greg Wyshynski along the way as well. In the meantime, anything else you wanted to add from your day at the lottery? My day at the lottery by Greg Wyshynski. Anything else?
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Chapter 5: Who is Gavin McKenna and why is he a top prospect?
There's a lot of pressure on these guys. People don't see a lot of time. In general, we see the surface, but there's a lot of mental and physical. We all hear about the broken jaw, the bad hip and all that in the playoffs, playing through injuries. But also, what about the mental part? What about the pressure these players are applying on themselves?
They're entitled to make decisions for what makes them perform better, mentally and physically.
I am curious about sort of what goes into the decision to like, we've all talked a lot about the state tax issue in the United States. And we've talked about winning and how much that matters to players. And I thought the Like, I'll tell you, Pat, I thought the opening round was fascinating where you had the highest taxed province in Canada beat the lowest taxed state in Tampa.
I said to myself, what am I going to do with this now? So here's the question. Generally, like, wide brush, like, what means more to players? Putting a little more money in the jeans of state tax or being competitive?
Chapter 6: What role does Pat Brisson play in shaping player careers?
Because we just saw Montreal beat Tampa, and I don't know what to do with it.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Montreal's got a nice young team. But, you know, at the end of the day, it's a good point. It's a good point, guys. You know, like it's a bucket where within the bucket, sure, the taxes have something to do with it. It's not the majority of the major decision, but the fit. Yeah.
the well-being of the family on and off the ice, how the ownership and the team is treating their players, what are the odds of winning and benefiting from having a better career if I'm here, here, or there. But at the end of the day, it doesn't come down to solely the taxes. But if it's on the line, when a player has a chance to live in the Sun Belt,
And, you know, whether it's Texas, you know, Nevada, or perhaps, you know, Florida. I mean, there's some advantages to that. But also, all these teams we just mentioned have great teams and really good organizations. They've been proven teams. So, you know, winning attracts. You know, the San Jose Sharks and the Anaheim Ducks right now, they're young teams in the state of California.
They're going to be attracting talent. And I don't see that talent's going to be leaving quick unless, you know, they start, you know, do things right. So the organization has a lot to do with it as well.
You mentioned Sunbelt.
That's how we'll pay some state taxes in California, baby. That's how we'll pay some state taxes in California.
They will. We have more Sun, but we're paying taxes. Yeah.
that i wonder about too and pat you can speak with some authority on this because i know how much um health and recovery is important to you as a as an individual when you're a player like when you play in florida or you play in in in dallas like living and playing in the sun and you walk out the front door and it's a shot of vitamin d and your body feels good like
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Chapter 7: How do player agents influence team dynamics?
First of all, I'd like to have options. So what I mean by that, I like to reevaluate, readapt myself, reinvent myself. And we've done that with the agency the past 35 years. we've been able to readapt ourselves and always get, you know, separate ourselves in many categories.
And so I'm always intrigued to what's best and continue to grow, you know, our career, my career, my family's career, so to speak. And, and so, but as far as I've had opportunities, I've had discussions that, you know, I was listening to, and perhaps I want to grow as a person too, and I want to understand, but again, I'm so fascinated about the, the,
the, the growth of our business and what we've done, what we continue to do. I mean, if Gavin goes first, obviously it's an exciting time and we had, you know, it's going to be our 10th first overall pick the last 20 years as an agency. It's very exciting. And for us, what we've done with our group and continue to grow and it never gets any better.
I can tell people you never arrive, you know, you know, you keep pushing yourself and I think I'm working harder now than I did 15 years ago.
And you always take time for us.
Well,
With the cap going up and your agent fee, you'll be able to buy an expansion team within the next five years, Pat. You'll be fine. Houston or Atlanta, Pat, what do you want?
What do you want? Houston or Atlanta, what do you want, Pat? You know, Greg, the values of the franchise in sports, it's gone. I mean, we could have bought it. You know, the Pittsburgh Penguins were sold for sale in 05 for, what, $110 million. And now they just went for $1.7 million or they're going for $1.7 million. And so it's only going to go.
So what Blink and I is going to be the values of these hockey franchises will be between $3 million to $5 million within five years. Absolutely.
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Chapter 8: What factors affect NHL player decisions during free agency?
Thanks, Pat. I think we've always wondered whether Pat would ever take that jump to go team side. I know teams have been interested before.
Oh, yeah. I mean... Go. No, I was going to say, don't you think that he was probably first choice in Montreal before they went down the Kent Hughes road? I always assumed that. I always assumed that, but don't know.
But again, that's just assumption like, okay, I can see Pat Breesong going there.
Wouldn't you love to see Pat take over the LA Kings? Doesn't that make the most sense?
He's such an LA guy. He's such an LA guy. He's a complete LA guy. He's got the great look. He's super smart. He knows the industry inside and out.
The two questions I wanted to ask him that we didn't get time for one was I'm dying to know what offers are coming Jack Hughes's way after the gold medal thing like, you know, movie roles like what's coming Jack Hughes's way now that he is like the most famous American hockey player in the country. And the other thing is to like. Sid made the playoffs. After all that, Sid made the playoffs.
And one assumes that that means that the fires are out regarding him moving on from the Penguins. He made the playoffs. One assumes that he'll flex and Geno will be back on some sort of reduced contract. And maybe that whole situation has resolved itself thanks primarily to Dan Mews, but maybe also Kyle Dubas.
Interesting times, eh? Interesting. I thought the, again, like I really don't know from a player's point of view, and I think the past point, like everybody's a little bit different. Like I don't, like one story that I don't think has been given enough concert here is Montreal beat Tampa. High tax beat low tax. No tax. Yeah. High tax beat no tax. That's not supposed to happen here.
To be honest with you, I'm kind of surprised that the NHL hasn't, and Gary Bettman hasn't sort of crowed about that one. Although it is now another bullet in the chamber for the NHL whenever anyone brings up state tax.
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