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Two Broke Chicks

How To Flirt With Your Life

08 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 5.907 Alex Hourigan

This podcast is recorded on Gadigal land. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land.

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13.025 - 37.555 Sally McMullen

Hey chicks, I'm Al. And I'm Sal. And this is Two Broke Chicks, the show that shares life lessons and tips to help make you rich in life. And I hope you're all feeling a little bit, a little bit flirty. You ready to float? Are you ready to float, bitch? Everyone's like, uh. So today we are talking a very on-brand episode, I feel like, for us. It's because it's fun. It's flirty. It's thriving.

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37.836 - 38.096 Alex Hourigan

Yeah.

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38.116 - 53.231 Sally McMullen

And it's how to flirt with your life. Yep. So there's a couple kind of podcasts and sub stacks all about this idea and we've wanted to tap into the conversation because I just love the notion and idea behind this.

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53.551 - 58.255 Alex Hourigan

Yeah, me too. And it's reframing how to fall back in love with your life, I think.

58.656 - 67.129 Sally McMullen

It's a little bit, I would call it like the little sister of romanticising your life. Mm. Do you know what I mean? Like it's same, same, but different.

67.229 - 76.909 Alex Hourigan

Yeah. Yeah. I feel that. And it's just, it's fun. Yeah. Which I think is why we're excited to get into it. But we like to start with our obsessions of the week.

Chapter 2: How can we flirt with our lives for more joy?

77.029 - 78.732 Alex Hourigan

What are you obsessing over?

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78.792 - 104.963 Sally McMullen

My obsession of the week is kind of an old faithful, but she's just really in the rotation at the moment. And it's the Garnier Fractus Curls Method Mask. And this is literally my like $9 hair tool because I don't do anything else with my hair when I use it. And it's so good if you've got curly or wavy hair and you also want like a little bit of texture in it that gets rid of all the frizz.

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105.523 - 131.328 Sally McMullen

And I literally just use this on – I wet my hair like sopping wet in the shower and then I just get a little bit of this, rub it on my hands and scrunch my hair and I get the best – waves and like curls that kind of give that like Ali Hayes wavy shag haircut that I currently have. And it's just so easy. Like my hair's done in literally 10 minutes and then I just let it air dry.

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132.509 - 153.163 Sally McMullen

And it's so good. I definitely can't like not use a hair product if I want to get like the wavy waves because then my hair just goes so frizzy. But yeah, you can get it from like Priceline. It's RRP is $15.99, but it's like always on sale either at like Chemist Warehouse or Priceline. And it's a huge tub.

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153.343 - 153.844 Alex Hourigan

Yeah.

153.864 - 158.153 Sally McMullen

Like it lasts so long. Like I think this one has lasted me like a good six months.

158.234 - 159.336 Alex Hourigan

Yeah, that's amazing.

159.356 - 160.879 Sally McMullen

Yeah, 10 out of 10.

161.179 - 180.615 Alex Hourigan

My obsession of the week is a study that was shared by the Washington Post and they found that 6.4 to 7.8 hours of sleep is the sweet spot for healthy aging. Yeah. Because I always thought it was eight hours.

Chapter 3: What are the characteristics of flirting with life?

232.976 - 234.981 Alex Hourigan

But I think everybody's so different.

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235.041 - 236.364 Sally McMullen

Six just doesn't feel like a lot.

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237.025 - 240.773 Alex Hourigan

I feel like six is the amount that I get most probably.

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241.377 - 241.758 Sally McMullen

Yeah.

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242.299 - 260.196 Alex Hourigan

And you're a sleepy girl. Yeah, between six to seven is probably what I get. Do you feel rested with six to seven? Yeah, but even if I get ten hours, I feel the same. I don't know what it is. But, yeah, very interesting. All right, shall we flirt? Let's flirt. I love it.

261.053 - 289.626 Alex Hourigan

love flirting love flirting yeah okay so you kind of you touched on this at the top of the episode but we're chatting how to flirt with your life but what does that actually mean it's provocative get some people going as we like to say because we all kind of know what flirting is right in the context of romance we know flirting as the act of chatting and getting to know somebody that you haven't that's maybe new in your life yeah

289.606 - 293.531 Sally McMullen

Typical thing that you would think of when you think of flirting is like romantic.

293.631 - 317.162 Alex Hourigan

Yeah, romantic. And it's kind of like, it's usually pretty playful and lighthearted and fun. And there's a bit of, you know, risk involved and an element of surprise. So yeah, one of the key characteristics of flirting generally is that sense of unpredictability and that it's intriguing and exciting and new. So how can we flirt with life? Because... That's all we've known.

317.423 - 341.077 Alex Hourigan

Like you've known your life ever since you were born and it's been kind of the same ever since. Like it's not like a new relationship. So in basic terms, flirting with life is a way of subtle allure or romanticising the world around you and having that perspective shift to shake things up and pay attention to different details in a way that you maybe haven't before.

Chapter 4: How can we embrace vulnerability in our daily lives?

361.521 - 374.895 Alex Hourigan

And waiting for that feeling and waiting for them to text you back. Like the butterflies. Yeah. And that's kind of what this is. It's patience is favoured over instant gratification or always knowing what is going to happen next.

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375.976 - 398.638 Sally McMullen

I like it. And we were reading this substat when we were doing research for this episode, which I really liked the angle of it and how it went into, we'll link it in the show notes, obviously, but how it kind of ties into this theme of seduction. Right. How good is that word? It's such a good word. If seduction was an object...

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399.884 - 424.9 Sally McMullen

what object is it because for me i know this is weird you know when like there's a cat burglar on the side of a building and they have those like those suction cups that's what you're thinking that's just what popped into my head but it's like i think it's because suction seduction yeah i don't know what did you think of a rose or chocolate yours is better Cat burglars can be pretty hot.

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425.801 - 469.665 Sally McMullen

Very hot. Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman. Very flirty. Very flirty. Anyway, I love that word because I think it is... Very encompassing of how I kind of feel about this topic, that there's this constant like seduction of opportunity that you can open yourself up to in life. I do understand and appreciate the structure of a routine.

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469.645 - 498.812 Sally McMullen

But as with everything, sometimes routine can be a good thing, but like too much of anything can be a bad thing, right? And when we fall too much into routine or rules, it doesn't leave a lot of room for flirting. It doesn't really leave a lot of room for like seduction in your life. And when we're constantly living our lives to a routine that's set by this invisible person.

498.973 - 504.999 Sally McMullen

It's like, why am I doing this? Where's the fun? Where's the flirt? Where does that fit in?

Chapter 5: What is the significance of 'crush energy' in life?

505.42 - 524.982 Sally McMullen

And so this subset kind of talks about how seduction is about your presence or pull and how you move through the world. And my interpretation of that was really about like your openness to the world and how, yes, seduction is mostly used in a romantic sense. In that context, it refers to

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525.282 - 549.129 Sally McMullen

like the gentle persuasion to become familiar to someone and to kind of make it feel inevitable of like this person to meet you. But like, if you apply that to your life, it's more about becoming familiar with unknown. Yeah. Because like, if you're going, okay, you're floating with someone, you don't know that person, or if you've just met, you're like open to this new thing.

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549.169 - 553.628 Sally McMullen

But what if you put that context into just your general day-to-day.

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553.688 - 566 Alex Hourigan

Yeah, it's leaving yourself open to the opportunities of the unknown in a way that's exciting and thrilling, not something to be scared of or that's daunting.

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566.04 - 580.315 Sally McMullen

Yes, or just like, what's going to happen today? Like that 2000 rom-com opener of like, it's the perfect day. I really want to keep going, but I won't. You slayed that. Thank you.

580.355 - 581.156 Alex Hourigan

Leave people wanting more.

581.176 - 596.528 Sally McMullen

I was practicing in the mirror. But just like where could the sparkly... come from today and having the ability to maybe look up from your phone and see that. Yeah.

596.929 - 601.214 Alex Hourigan

Yeah. I like that. And I'm sure a lot of people can relate to that.

602.155 - 607.762 Sally McMullen

And I wonder how many people listening feel like they've flirted with their life recently.

Chapter 6: How can we integrate spontaneity into our routines?

624.26 - 637.036 Alex Hourigan

But I hate that. I know, I know. I don't like that for us. 52% said that they're kind of in the middle and 40% said that they're feeling meh. So we need to flirt. Yeah, we need to flirt.

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637.236 - 638.938 Sally McMullen

This is a catastrophe.

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638.918 - 659.828 Alex Hourigan

Yeah. So if your life is feeling dull or that you're lacking connection or meaning or that everything's kind of been the same, which I do think is a normal feeling, especially at this midpoint of the year too. Yeah. The mid year slump be slumpy. Yeah. Honestly, I think it might be time to start flirting with your life again.

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659.848 - 684.754 Sally McMullen

And I don't want anyone to think flirting with your life is is not we're not saying you have to go out and like carry Bradshaw your life we're not like you don't need to go out or like sometimes the misconception with if we feel like we're in a rut or a slump or whatever and we're maybe in our flop era which we've had a whole episode on in defense of that

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685.477 - 697.596 Sally McMullen

It's like you've got to change something really drastically. You've got to do something like... Move to a new country. Yeah, you don't. You don't have to completely...

698.555 - 722.2 Sally McMullen

create a new life a new personality a new who you are you don't need to sabotage something you don't need to you know break up with your partner or if you want to i mean go for it yeah but like you don't need to quit your job break up with your partner or like completely uphold your life just to start flirting with it again yeah exactly it doesn't have to come out of something that is

723.074 - 725.539 Alex Hourigan

the destruction of something else in your life, right?

725.84 - 749.658 Sally McMullen

Yes. And so I think the importance of flirting, especially at the moment and potentially where people are feeling within those like statistics above is like, Focusing on flirting, especially in a world that's really focused on fighting. And when I'm saying that, I'm talking about how like rage bait was the word of a year.

750.279 - 778.174 Sally McMullen

And there's the rise of, you know, hate and click bait and fake marketing scandals and all of those things that are designed to kind of make people angry and frustrated. Even if it's just work, you know, how that is and, you know, where are you sitting in that? Like are you getting up in the day and approaching it with curiosity or are you approaching it with clenched teeth?

Chapter 7: What are quickfire tips for flirting with life?

783.884 - 785.987 Sally McMullen

And I'm like if you're constantly like –

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786.946 - 815.063 Sally McMullen

your eyebrows are up your jaw is clenched and your shoulders are tense like we need to float a little bit more there my girl and like i'm also here speaking from experience like this is not something that i'm sitting here going yeah like oh yeah i do this every single fucking day whenever we go into these topics i'm like i'm ready to learn yeah it's like that's why we want to do this because i'm like i'd like to know that too thank you very much so it's about like

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816.342 - 833.579 Sally McMullen

Maybe if you're going into work and you feel like you're bracing for impact rather than leaning in. Like if you're going about your day and you're bracing and being like, all right, what's going to go wrong today? What's going to piss me off today? What's going to upset me? What's going to make me anxious? That's that brace.

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833.699 - 856.788 Sally McMullen

That's that I'm letting life happen to me, which absolutely does happen sometimes and you can't control everything. But where are you leaning in? where are the moments where you're falling and like you have that draw into your life and you're like, yes, love 10 out of 10 because floating with your life means giving yourself permission to be interested without being committed.

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858.349 - 880.906 Sally McMullen

And that's what I like about it because it gives you the opportunity to try and fail new things. And also if you're the kind of person who can't start anything without a plan, hello me, or like a purpose or a guaranteed return on investment, then like this is potentially a sign that you need to embrace the what if a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah.

881.086 - 899.744 Sally McMullen

Because I have become such an analytical, like I describe myself as like a type C that it's like loves a plan. but also thrives in, like, chaos a little bit as well. Organized chaos. Organized chaos, right? But it's, like, only that if I'm, like, actually a little bit interested in it.

899.764 - 913.082 Sally McMullen

I'm, like, type A for things that I'm interested in and then type B when I'm, like, I don't want to go get a new passport. You know? I'm, like, that's boring. What do you mean? Yeah, that stinks. Yeah. Where's my birth certificate? I don't know. I don't care.

Chapter 8: How can we cultivate a mindset of curiosity and openness?

913.162 - 933.069 Sally McMullen

However. A holiday, let me create a color-coded spreadsheet and I've got you. The spreadsheet of the outfits. Yes, literally. And so I do think like the world gives us plenty of things to take seriously and that are worth fighting for and worth being incredibly serious about and that we do need to brace for.

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933.449 - 946.447 Sally McMullen

But there's also a lot of things that we can lean into and flirt with a little bit more as well. Yeah. One other small sign that's a good indicator of whether or not you need to flirt a little bit more is how much like love are you giving out?

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946.467 - 946.807 Unknown

Yeah.

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946.827 - 967.102 Sally McMullen

So like we always say this as well, that if you think someone looks really nice, whether you know them or not, Like, being like, I love your jacket. Yeah. I love your hair. I find myself doing that just, like, I try to find something. Like, if I don't know someone and, like, they're in the store, I'll be like, what's, like, a way that I can... Connect. Connect.

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967.122 - 969.587 Sally McMullen

And I'll be like, one time I went to go...

969.567 - 993.786 Sally McMullen

what we were you were with me oh we were in Harvey Norman and the lady was like really friendly and I she was like walking and I was behind her and I didn't realize and I went to go be like oh my god I love your shirt and she turned around I realized it was her uniform oh my god oh because imagine how awkward that would have been yeah she'd be like she'd be like are you my uniform yeah she'd be like are you ripping on me

993.766 - 997.731 Sally McMullen

But I was like, I really just like your stripy shirt. Yeah. But then when she turned around, I was like.

997.751 - 999.313 Alex Hourigan

Office siren. Yeah.

999.613 - 1023.431 Sally McMullen

No, I love that. The other thing with this is like, you know, whether you're flirting with life, whether it's opportunities, whether it's just your day to day, whether it's walking on the train, whether it's talking to a stranger, sometimes life won't flirt back. Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. Just because you pitch the ball doesn't mean someone's going to bat it back. Exactly.

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