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Whateley in a Snapshot | Tuesday (09.06.26)

09 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 11.246 Gerard Waitley

I'm Gerard Waitley. Here's a snapshot of Tuesday, June 9. Adam Simpson assessed Collingwood's trajectory on the means test. So what is the big picture on Collingwood?

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Chapter 2: What insights does Adam Simpson provide about Collingwood's trajectory?

11.266 - 15.271 Gerard Waitley

Are they a matter of minor moments off or are they starting to look miles off?

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15.792 - 29.224 Adam Simpson

Well, no one should know more than them. The current reality of where the list's at and what's happening in the next five years, we've spoken about every year's the start of a five-year plan. So what is the five-year plan today? No one should know more than they do.

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29.264 - 46.402 Adam Simpson

But having lived this a little bit, so we win a flag in 18, fast forward three years, we had to work through COVID a little bit and a few injuries. And then it's like, well, where are we at? And where are we going to be? And if you're not careful, if you zig when you should zag – You can find yourself where West Coast aren't building through now.

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46.542 - 63.54 Adam Simpson

So important decisions need to be made, if not already, but now, about what's the direction of the club. Is it just reload, get the players back, get the bands back together, get a Lockie Neal, get a King, and let's have another go? Or is it let's be a little bit more strategic over the next couple of years? So I can't give you the answer, Gerard.

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63.56 - 73.132 Gerard Waitley

He used the word transition regarding the list and then wouldn't answer the follow-up question. But he clearly spoke about... targeting free agents in the aftermath.

73.152 - 76.238 Adam Simpson

Yeah. Yeah. And who's, who's the decision maker at Collingwood?

Chapter 3: What is the significance of Collingwood's five-year plan?

76.718 - 99.035 Adam Simpson

It's always a collective, but someone's, someone has to have the final, you know, authority of say on this. So it'd be interesting to list management, you know, it's obviously it's the CEO who's on his way out is what I'm hearing. It's the coach, it's Lepic, it's the list manager. So who's the one there going, this is what we're doing. And then there's a confrontation around that or an agreement.

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99.556 - 120.558 Adam Simpson

And then they come out with a decision. I'm sure that's already been had. Gerard, you don't wait till round 13. And Simmo had North Melbourne on the pressure index. So it starts in the midfield. And that's their biggest strength and also their biggest weakness. If you can take apart their midfield, it's all over. And that's the reality of North Melbourne. On the back of improvement everywhere.

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121.179 - 139.542 Adam Simpson

Centre bounce, they've really dropped the waist. Scoring from centre bounce, they've gone from third to 16th. But most of the numbers say they're getting a little bit better, but the exposure that you have when you defend that way can be exploited, Gerard. And that's what we see when they lose. Okay. So the tactical vulnerability. That's the tactical vulnerability.

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139.582 - 141.666 Adam Simpson

What about the emotional capitulation?

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Chapter 4: How does Collingwood's current list impact their future performance?

141.646 - 142.988 Gerard Waitley

Because it was a capitulation.

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143.008 - 164.625 Adam Simpson

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have an answer for that. And I don't want to be one of these past players who just throw grenades at a club that you want to see succeed. So I don't have an answer for the leadership, the coaching, the coming off a bye. And we heard that a little bit with Clark. I'm like, what the hell happened in our bye week? What did we do to be so poor? And so switched off.

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164.685 - 184.964 Adam Simpson

That's worth looking into. And then there's the game. This game should have been at Marvel. And what do we get? Do we get the same type of game? So all those things, I don't have an answer for. And I'm not going to come and, like I said, throw a grenade. But there are definitely questions that need to be answered. on why, why did this happen? Is it us? Is it the players? Is it the leaders?

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185.505 - 202.399 Adam Simpson

Is it our style of play? Is our attitude? So they'll be digging deep. You can't go too deep though. There's a game, a winnable game this week that we need to get back on our bikes for. So I don't think they're sweeping this one under the carpet. They've got to review it a little bit, but there are some vulnerabilities on the way they play.

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203.003 - 218.955 Gerard Waitley

So for Clarkson, what's his priority? Is his priority to fix the tactical vulnerability or to address the spiritual side of it?

218.975 - 241.174 Adam Simpson

I think the spiritual side of it. I think the – The old Dennis Payne, what we saw on Thursday and Friday night, just don't take away tactics. Take away where you are on the ladder. You look at the Bulldogs and what they did, the hunter's mindset, the going in. And Clarko lived this when I was at Hawthorne. That's, you know, take away Buddy Franklin.

241.354 - 254.404 Adam Simpson

The attitude of front foot, in your face, start a fight, They're the type of things we're looking to see, I think, from a North Melbourne supporters point of view. Robert Craddock with Ben Stokes' captaincy of England on the line.

254.444 - 271.553 Robert Craddock

When I saw overnight that Ben Stokes is on the verge of being suspended from the England captaincy for a nightclub incident after their first test win over New Zealand, I got to say, I just, my head is just, as I speak to you, my head is still shaking.

271.988 - 292.565 Gerard Waitley

So it's happened straight away. As soon as England has returned to duty in test cricket, they've immediately had an incident. And this is one of those things through all the years is we rely on your wisdom and experience. These things don't happen by accident. If you don't properly and adequately deal with something within the culture of a team... it repeats on you.

Chapter 5: What tactical vulnerabilities does North Melbourne face?

389.828 - 404.19 Robert Craddock

That was the first thing, you know. And they've been at pains to say, the ECB, that the players were not the aggressors. Gerard, I say this, who cares? They're involved in a stink after midnight when they should have been, when they said they were going to be in bed.

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404.862 - 411.109 Gerard Waitley

What chance that it does result in either his suspension or sacking from the captaincy?

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411.129 - 432.372 Robert Craddock

Oh, absolutely. Very, very likely. And crash on Cricket Victoria's bold push toward privatisation. It can work, Gerard. That is one thing I do believe in. I mean, it works in rugby league. You know, some of the teams are privately owned. You've got News Corp having a giant share in the Broncos. You've got the Penn family owning Manly. And it's...

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432.976 - 456.982 Robert Craddock

You know, I think when a team steps out, I don't think the fans really care that much. It's the same with stadiums, you know, Marvel Stadium or around the place. If a private owner's got an investment, do you think a fan sitting in the stand really cares? What does matter is the branding and the naming. You know, if you're calling something after an Indian franchise, will that alienate some?

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457.082 - 481.343 Robert Craddock

I think it will because it's not Australian. So it is a very complex issue, but it's the argument Australian cricket had to have. It was always going to end up down this way. I just remember when the competition started, they sort of said, should we go for private ownership? No, let's just see if we can hang on. But the trouble is, Australia did not get a great television rights deal.

482.024 - 486.791 Robert Craddock

It has so many bills to pay in cricket, Cricket Australia. It lost $11 million last year.

Chapter 6: What emotional challenges are affecting North Melbourne's performance?

486.911 - 489.555 Robert Craddock

It needs cash, so it's got to look at every option.

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490.156 - 496.446 Gerard Waitley

Plus, Bharat Sundaresan on the prospect of an Indian purchase of the second Melbourne licence in the BBL.

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496.426 - 510.842 Bharat Sundaresan

It'll be a business deal and it'll end there, Jared. I can't see any, you know, this whole, ever since that news broke that Cricket Victoria and credit to my new ball partner, Tom Morris, for the story, the merger talk happened.

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511.703 - 530.268 Bharat Sundaresan

And I was listening to your show last week and I messaged in, I think around this time last week, saying it was a bit concerning and it has nothing to do with people calling in. I mean, that was just how it was presented that, oh, there'll be a team for Victorians and there'll be a team for... The outsiders? I don't know. And I just felt it's a very dangerous area to go into.

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530.308 - 551.446 Bharat Sundaresan

Maybe it was just a throwaway line in that piece. And, you know, this talk that, oh, the Indian diaspora doesn't support a Melbourne team if it's owned or the Melbourne stars weren't getting their support. So we need to create another team for them. I don't like language like that at all because, you know, our society is already divided. It's getting more divided by the day.

551.887 - 571.26 Bharat Sundaresan

My social media tells me that every day, Jared. So just because an Indian person or an Indian owner comes into this space and owns the second team in Melbourne, I don't think any Indian origin people... person is just going to, okay, I'm going to go support that club. It's different if Indian players come.

571.28 - 588.694 Bharat Sundaresan

So if R. Ashwin does show up this season and play for Thunder, and then there are a few people who suddenly start supporting Thunder, I can see that happen. Also because it's R. Ashwin, you know, a player of that pedigree. But... It'll purely be a business deal. It'll bring in more money for sure.

589.015 - 605.543 Bharat Sundaresan

But I think the question to be asked, and I've been pondering this in the last one week, Jared, is what is for sale though? I mean, is the BBL almost, I know I've been fully in favor of privatization, but I wonder if the BBL is ready to be sold or any club ready to be sold to foreign interests.

605.523 - 625.228 Bharat Sundaresan

Are we hearing that Perth Scotchers are people there who are interested in buying the club, like local business and probably someone in the mining industry? But when it comes to, say, the second Melbourne team, even if it's for sale for 100%, what do you get out of it? Like, what are you saying? So, You won't have too many fans because all the Victorians are going to be supporting us.

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