In 2022, seven years after surviving a brain aneurysm that left her unable to sing or even speak, Joni Mitchell appeared onstage at the Newport Folk Festival. Singing alongside her were her supportive — and emotional — musician friends, including Brandi Carlile, Marcus Mumford and Wynonna Judd.Our critic Wesley Morris had his doubts. What was really happening here? Did Joni Mitchell even want this? Or were her younger adoring musician fans propping her up for their own reasons? When he learned this fall that Joni would be appearing onstage again, at the Hollywood Bowl, he bought a ticket to see for himself.On today’s episode, Wesley talks with his editor Sasha Weiss about the concert, and what it’s like to experience an 80-year-old in full command of her meaning.Guest: Wesley Morris, a critic at large for The New York Times.Sasha Weiss, the deputy editor of the The New York Times Magazine.Background reading: 50 Reasons to Love Joni Mitchell’s “Blue”For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Chapter 1: What was the significance of Joni Mitchell's Newport Folk Festival performance?
And it was a big deal because Joni Mitchell, the singer, the songwriter, influencer of generations of musicians, that person had virtually disappeared from public life. She'd sworn off touring. And then in 2015, a brain aneurysm almost killed her. She survived, but her ability to sing or even speak was gone.
Chapter 2: How did Joni Mitchell's health challenges affect her music career?
So you can imagine the shock when she appeared on stage at Newport surrounded by a bunch of musicians led by Brandi Carlile and including folks like Winona Judd and Marcus Mumford. Some of these same musicians had been convening at her house in L.A. and somebody started calling those gatherings Joanie Jams. And now, here they all were, taking her living room sessions public.
The Joanie Mitchell fans went crazy! She was back! And, I might add, back in that signature beret. But honestly, I had my doubts. Like, what was really happening here? Did Joni Mitchell even want this? Or were these adoring young musician fans making her do something for their own reasons? Was it elder care? I wasn't there! I don't know!
And then, earlier this year, I'm watching the Grammys at home in my living room. And in the middle of the show, the stage went dark and a familiar voice filled the room.
Rosen flows...
It was low, and it was deliberate. And slowly, part of the stage spun around to reveal Joni Mitchell. Seated in an armchair, one hand stirring a walking can, the other moving to the cadences of her own lyricism. And she was indeed surrounded by other musicians.
I've looked at love from both sides now
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Chapter 3: What emotions did Joni Mitchell's comeback evoke for audiences?
Chapter 4: What role do younger musicians play in Joni Mitchell's narrative?
And then, earlier this year, I'm watching the Grammys at home in my living room. And in the middle of the show, the stage went dark and a familiar voice filled the room.
Rosen flows...
It was low, and it was deliberate. And slowly, part of the stage spun around to reveal Joni Mitchell. Seated in an armchair, one hand stirring a walking can, the other moving to the cadences of her own lyricism. And she was indeed surrounded by other musicians.
I've looked at love from both sides now
And I was like, okay, nevermind. I take it all back. Because so much about this performance was so moving. First of all, just the way the people on stage, these musicians, these great musicians were regarding Joni Mitchell. Like they were having the same experience that I was at home, except they were there and they were in awe of the beauty of this moment.
Like they were at the feet of a musical mother. And then there were the cutaways to musicians in the audience. One shot looked over Dua Lipa's shoulder at Beyonce, who was just swaying in thought. And then another shot caught Taylor Swift mid-standing ovation. And I just got the sense that a lot of people in that room were thinking about what 50 years from now looks like for them.
How is Antihero going to sound when Taylor Swift's 80 years old? What's that song going to be about then? But mostly, I was struck by how good Joni Mitchell sounded. She's lost an octave over the years, but there's still tremendous power in her lower register. She can still control. She can still wield it.
So when more of these Joanie jams got scheduled at the Hollywood Bowl, I knew I had to get myself on a plane to hear her with my own ears and see her with my own eyes. I also knew my friend Sasha Weiss was going. Sasha's a writer and my editor at The Times Magazine, and we talk a lot. And I wanted to ask her what it felt like to be there at one of these shows. We went on different nights.
She went on Saturday. I went on Sunday. And I wanted to talk about who Joni Mitchell is to her and how it feels to experience an 80-year-old in full command of her meaning. Hi, Sasha. Hi, Wesley. How are you? I'm good. I want to talk about the concert, obviously, but before we do that, I just, I gotta ask you what your relationship to Joni Mitchell is. Like, what's your first Joni Mitchell moment?
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Chapter 5: How does Joni Mitchell's performance style reflect her artistic journey?
Oh, I wish I had a.
Chapter 6: What is the meaning behind the set list choices in Joni Mitchell's concert?
I feel like there's a desire there. There's a hunger. There's a command. I wanted that vocally. And I think I wanted it, like, interpersonally or something.
What does that look like?
I don't know. I think the ability to explore, the ability to, like, take command, the ability to be daring. I mean, I don't know if I've achieved these things, but I think this was, like, my fantasy. Especially Blue. But Court and Spark, too, shaped my ideas about... What love was, I always felt like love was a complex, laden thing, not a simple thing, because of Joni.
What it was to be a writer, I think. You know, her songs are so writerly. So many of them are short stories in miniature, and you get a whole life in those songs. So I think that her words, I listen to them frequently. thousands of times. I mean, blue is just stamped on my consciousness. So I think I wanted to see what kind of woman I'd become by encountering Joanie.
Oh, my God. We just started talking and my eyes are already welling up. Okay, I first heard Joni Mitchell in the 90s because I was listening to this radio station when I was a kid that was really singer-songwriter heavy.
So Night Ride Home.
Night Ride Home was my first Joni Mitchell album. I bought a cassette and the voice on it was unlike any of the other people they were playing in this radio station. The voice was deeper than the leaping that you're talking about.
And caterpillar platters in the sand.
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Chapter 7: How does Joni Mitchell's legacy influence contemporary artists?
Chapter 8: What are the personal connections listeners have with Joni Mitchell's music?
She's a traveler.
She's a restless wanderer. And I think that also implanted something in me that, you know, I grew up in, I would say in some ways, in a kind of... cozy, somewhat cloistered environment. I mean, I grew up in New York City, but, you know, in a kind of strong Jewish community. I mean, there was a sense of, like, shtetl-likeness in my upbringing, I would say.
And I think Joni did implant a seed of wandering and wandering. Because so many of her songs are about, I mean, on Blue Alone, she's in California and she's in Spain and she's in France.
All I want is, you know, the first line is... I'm on a lonely road and I'm traveling, yeah. Traveling, traveling, traveling.
I mean, I loved to sing. I still love to sing. And I really studied her singing and learned to sing from Blue. And I think just the leaping in the range, you know, the way that Joni can adventurously, boldly, almost insolently, like she can go from really low to just leaping up.
Yep. It's sort of doing a parallel bar routine where like it goes from a low bar to the high bar, flips around a little bit, goes back down, comes up and then sticks the landing every time.
Oh, I wish I had a.
I feel like there's a desire there. There's a hunger. There's a command. I wanted that vocally. And I think I wanted it, like, interpersonally or something.
What does that look like?
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