Abden Rodriguez

My name is Abden Rodriguez. And in 2009, I was a criminal investigator for the McLennan County District Attorney's Office. I hear they call you the human lie detector. I guess because of some of the confessions that I was able to get.

I WANTED TO LOOK AT THE INTERVIEWS THAT HAD BEEN DONE. THERE WAS A LOT OF DECEPTION, YOU KNOW? AND I COULD SEE HOW ESPECIALLY VENESSA WAS DOING IT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, SHE'S GOT HER ARMS CROSSED AND HER LEGS CROSSED. That's a big red flag to me.

And I told him and I said, look, the whole key to this case is going to be Vanessa Booth. She's pretty and very smooth and friendly, but at the same time, you know, she's a liar.

I said, I'm going to be there and I'm going to listen to your testimony. And I said, and as soon as you lie, I'm going to file charges on you.

So we're like, OK, let's see what happens.

They were planning it, and the things that he did, people couldn't believe it. I think the more surprising thing was that they couldn't believe that she said they were telling all this.

He's one of those people that can just lie and lie and believe in himself that he's innocent.

I don't, I mean, there's still more.

I wanted a shot at her real bad.

That's one of my specialties.

I could tell she was lying. There was information there, and I could tell that she had, but she didn't want to give it up.

I said, we're going to have to break her. Matt isn't talking with us anymore. Because she's the one that knows exactly what took place here.

I know what you did. I know what you know. And I said, you better tell the truth, because I'm going to be sitting there. And if you perjure yourself, we will turn around and charge you with it.