Addy Pross
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So now you see the beginning of the evolutionary process in a system that is the dynamic kinetically stable system has already a sense of self and an awareness of an outside. Now, this may be a little bit hard to comprehend initially, but I think the point is important. And again,
So now you see the beginning of the evolutionary process in a system that is the dynamic kinetically stable system has already a sense of self and an awareness of an outside. Now, this may be a little bit hard to comprehend initially, but I think the point is important. And again,
The fact that a daycare system is totally dependent, existentially dependent on its environment for resources and energy, that means it is aware in a very rudimentary sense of its environment because without that, it dies. And that external environment appreciation or awareness means there's the beginning of self-awareness. So it distinguishes between itself and the environment.
The fact that a daycare system is totally dependent, existentially dependent on its environment for resources and energy, that means it is aware in a very rudimentary sense of its environment because without that, it dies. And that external environment appreciation or awareness means there's the beginning of self-awareness. So it distinguishes between itself and the environment.
Now that might sound, now a chemical system, that sounds a bit hard to swallow. But when you think of a leaf, this is how I think about it, a leaf blowing in the wind, it's hard to see the principles of flight in what happens with that leaf fluttering in the wind. But they're all there. So once you have a very simple decay system with the beginning of self,
Now that might sound, now a chemical system, that sounds a bit hard to swallow. But when you think of a leaf, this is how I think about it, a leaf blowing in the wind, it's hard to see the principles of flight in what happens with that leaf fluttering in the wind. But they're all there. So once you have a very simple decay system with the beginning of self,
and the beginning of external awareness, if you now have an evolutionary process that enhances that for persistence, then the result will be an increasingly complex system that is increasingly self-aware and externally aware. So the bacterial cell... doesn't know too much about the planet. It only knows what's in its immediate vicinity.
and the beginning of external awareness, if you now have an evolutionary process that enhances that for persistence, then the result will be an increasingly complex system that is increasingly self-aware and externally aware. So the bacterial cell... doesn't know too much about the planet. It only knows what's in its immediate vicinity.
As we humans became more and more aware, well, animals like to know their environment, maybe a few kilometers or whatever. And we're looking, you know, far into space, into the solar system and beyond because of our increasing capability increasing self-awareness and increasing external awareness that's evolved over time.
As we humans became more and more aware, well, animals like to know their environment, maybe a few kilometers or whatever. And we're looking, you know, far into space, into the solar system and beyond because of our increasing capability increasing self-awareness and increasing external awareness that's evolved over time.
Yes, I agree with that. I think it was the physicist Max Delbruck who said that every cell contains within it its history going back millions of years because that's been a continual adaptation to its environment.
Yes, I agree with that. I think it was the physicist Max Delbruck who said that every cell contains within it its history going back millions of years because that's been a continual adaptation to its environment.
Absolutely. I think just as the second law of thermodynamics is directed, very explicitly directed, and though we don't say it's purposeful, we just say there's a law of nature that directs it in the direction that it goes. change in the dynamic kinetic world is also directed, but because the topology of thermodynamic space is convergent, then the law of nature that describes that is very clear.
Absolutely. I think just as the second law of thermodynamics is directed, very explicitly directed, and though we don't say it's purposeful, we just say there's a law of nature that directs it in the direction that it goes. change in the dynamic kinetic world is also directed, but because the topology of thermodynamic space is convergent, then the law of nature that describes that is very clear.
The problem is in dynamic kinetic space, the space is divergent because when you're at a particular point, there isn't one pathway forward to increasing persistence. It's all contingent. So it's a divergent space. But that doesn't mean that there isn't a directive pushing it forward. It doesn't go backwards. Life never evolves in a reverse direction.
The problem is in dynamic kinetic space, the space is divergent because when you're at a particular point, there isn't one pathway forward to increasing persistence. It's all contingent. So it's a divergent space. But that doesn't mean that there isn't a directive pushing it forward. It doesn't go backwards. Life never evolves in a reverse direction.
It's moving forward towards increasing complexity for increasing persistence. So in that sense, the evolutionary direction – there is an evolutionary direction and – and the direction is towards, it's Steve Grant's principle, towards increasingly persistent forms.
It's moving forward towards increasing complexity for increasing persistence. So in that sense, the evolutionary direction – there is an evolutionary direction and – and the direction is towards, it's Steve Grant's principle, towards increasingly persistent forms.
You can get to persistent forms in two ways, the thermodynamic way, Boltzmann's way, and you can do it the life, the kinetic way, but change has to have a directive, and it has a directive in the biological world as well.
You can get to persistent forms in two ways, the thermodynamic way, Boltzmann's way, and you can do it the life, the kinetic way, but change has to have a directive, and it has a directive in the biological world as well.