Alex Epstein

It's overwhelmingly a posture of we are 100% renewable and you should be too. And then politically advocating the net zero by 2050 kind of goal, which basically means rapidly eliminate fossil fuels. And prosperity. Yeah. And so you have them, and you have to think of them as they're just an incredible center of gravity in the culture.

And where they are is hard to move the culture away from because it's just so much wealth and so much influence, and people in many ways want to be like them. And I think their posture was part of the Larry Fink era. So, you know, Larry Fink, the— the head of BlackRock. By the way, I'm in D.C. Whenever I'm in D.C., this guy is always in D.C.

And where they are is hard to move the culture away from because it's just so much wealth and so much influence, and people in many ways want to be like them. And I think their posture was part of the Larry Fink era. So, you know, Larry Fink, the— the head of BlackRock. By the way, I'm in D.C. Whenever I'm in D.C., this guy is always in D.C.

And where they are is hard to move the culture away from because it's just so much wealth and so much influence, and people in many ways want to be like them. And I think their posture was part of the Larry Fink era. So, you know, Larry Fink, the— the head of BlackRock. By the way, I'm in D.C. Whenever I'm in D.C., this guy is always in D.C.

Like, I always spot this guy, like, heart building and Dirksen building. I mean, this guy. But I think he seems nervous right now, whereas he was on top of the world. So if you take two years ago, and especially four years ago, he was called the emperor, right? Actually, first time I had Vivek on my podcast, like, he was fighting against Fink. This was in about 2020, 2021, maybe.

Like, I always spot this guy, like, heart building and Dirksen building. I mean, this guy. But I think he seems nervous right now, whereas he was on top of the world. So if you take two years ago, and especially four years ago, he was called the emperor, right? Actually, first time I had Vivek on my podcast, like, he was fighting against Fink. This was in about 2020, 2021, maybe.

Like, I always spot this guy, like, heart building and Dirksen building. I mean, this guy. But I think he seems nervous right now, whereas he was on top of the world. So if you take two years ago, and especially four years ago, he was called the emperor, right? Actually, first time I had Vivek on my podcast, like, he was fighting against Fink. This was in about 2020, 2021, maybe.

And he's talking about him as the emperor. And you see now, just to give a sense of Larry Fink, Larry Fink went, of all places, to the World Economic Forum. This is after telling the whole world, you have to go net zero. And specifically, you want to be 100% renewable. He goes to the World Economic Forum and says, hey, we have data centers. We have AI.

And he's talking about him as the emperor. And you see now, just to give a sense of Larry Fink, Larry Fink went, of all places, to the World Economic Forum. This is after telling the whole world, you have to go net zero. And specifically, you want to be 100% renewable. He goes to the World Economic Forum and says, hey, we have data centers. We have AI.

And he's talking about him as the emperor. And you see now, just to give a sense of Larry Fink, Larry Fink went, of all places, to the World Economic Forum. This is after telling the whole world, you have to go net zero. And specifically, you want to be 100% renewable. He goes to the World Economic Forum and says, hey, we have data centers. We have AI.

There's going to be massive new demand for what he'll call dispatchable or reliable electricity. So electricity available on demand. You mean like the kind of electricity we got at customs? to the systems that work. Right, right, exactly, exactly.

There's going to be massive new demand for what he'll call dispatchable or reliable electricity. So electricity available on demand. You mean like the kind of electricity we got at customs? to the systems that work. Right, right, exactly, exactly.

There's going to be massive new demand for what he'll call dispatchable or reliable electricity. So electricity available on demand. You mean like the kind of electricity we got at customs? to the systems that work. Right, right, exactly, exactly.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. What we used to just call electricity. And he said, and we cannot power this with solar and wind, and we need dispatchable electricity like natural gas. I'm like, whoa. Where has this guy been? This was the leader of net zero, 100% renewable. And you're seeing it with the tech companies too, right? Facebook with Microsoft trying to resurrect Three Mile Island.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. What we used to just call electricity. And he said, and we cannot power this with solar and wind, and we need dispatchable electricity like natural gas. I'm like, whoa. Where has this guy been? This was the leader of net zero, 100% renewable. And you're seeing it with the tech companies too, right? Facebook with Microsoft trying to resurrect Three Mile Island.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. What we used to just call electricity. And he said, and we cannot power this with solar and wind, and we need dispatchable electricity like natural gas. I'm like, whoa. Where has this guy been? This was the leader of net zero, 100% renewable. And you're seeing it with the tech companies too, right? Facebook with Microsoft trying to resurrect Three Mile Island.

Everyone is admitting it. I mean, Elon, his stance has been really interesting. So he's been, I think, radically improving on oil and gas, radically improving- very much dampening on any sort of climate catastrophism.

Everyone is admitting it. I mean, Elon, his stance has been really interesting. So he's been, I think, radically improving on oil and gas, radically improving- very much dampening on any sort of climate catastrophism.

Everyone is admitting it. I mean, Elon, his stance has been really interesting. So he's been, I think, radically improving on oil and gas, radically improving- very much dampening on any sort of climate catastrophism.

At this point, I don't even think he's a climate catastrophist, which is like if you look at videos of him back when he's introducing the Powerwall, there's a lot of climate catastrophism. So it's just this fascinating development. And he's using natural gas, like a lot of new natural gas to power Grok. So what we've had is there is just the economic reality.