Alex Gibney

Most of it was stuff that they made public during the court cases. I mean, yeah. In a funny way, you know, the moral of the, you know, this was a funny story to look at in terms of dark money, because here's one case where they caught you know, the perps and they sent him up to prison.

It doesn't happen very often, but this was like... It doesn't happen very often, but the intriguing thing is, and the reason we thought this was a good story to tell, as opposed to the cases where everybody gets away with it, is you can hear... how the perps talked about their fraud because what happened was the FBI was actually looking into another political corruption case involving gambling.

It doesn't happen very often, but this was like... It doesn't happen very often, but the intriguing thing is, and the reason we thought this was a good story to tell, as opposed to the cases where everybody gets away with it, is you can hear... how the perps talked about their fraud because what happened was the FBI was actually looking into another political corruption case involving gambling.

It doesn't happen very often, but this was like... It doesn't happen very often, but the intriguing thing is, and the reason we thought this was a good story to tell, as opposed to the cases where everybody gets away with it, is you can hear... how the perps talked about their fraud because what happened was the FBI was actually looking into another political corruption case involving gambling.

And the key character at the heart of this tale, a lobbyist named Neil Clark, was on those wires. Some were body wires, some were phone taps. And then he started talking about Larry Householder and House Bill 6. And they were like, what's this? So they literally stumbled into this case.

And the key character at the heart of this tale, a lobbyist named Neil Clark, was on those wires. Some were body wires, some were phone taps. And then he started talking about Larry Householder and House Bill 6. And they were like, what's this? So they literally stumbled into this case.

And the key character at the heart of this tale, a lobbyist named Neil Clark, was on those wires. Some were body wires, some were phone taps. And then he started talking about Larry Householder and House Bill 6. And they were like, what's this? So they literally stumbled into this case.

Yeah, and so, but that's the thing. When you pull a subpoena and you have an order for a wiretap and you stumble on another crime, you're within your rights to then pursue it. And then if you wanna pursue it further, of course, you have to file other requests for wiretaps and body wires. They had a group of guys posing as businessmen

Yeah, and so, but that's the thing. When you pull a subpoena and you have an order for a wiretap and you stumble on another crime, you're within your rights to then pursue it. And then if you wanna pursue it further, of course, you have to file other requests for wiretaps and body wires. They had a group of guys posing as businessmen

Yeah, and so, but that's the thing. When you pull a subpoena and you have an order for a wiretap and you stumble on another crime, you're within your rights to then pursue it. And then if you wanna pursue it further, of course, you have to file other requests for wiretaps and body wires. They had a group of guys posing as businessmen

We're wearing body wires and going out a little ab scam ish to me.

We're wearing body wires and going out a little ab scam ish to me.

We're wearing body wires and going out a little ab scam ish to me.

And they were going out to dinner with Neil Clark and Larry Householder. And and it was amazing how candid they were about the scam that they were pulling off and what first energy.

And they were going out to dinner with Neil Clark and Larry Householder. And and it was amazing how candid they were about the scam that they were pulling off and what first energy.

And they were going out to dinner with Neil Clark and Larry Householder. And and it was amazing how candid they were about the scam that they were pulling off and what first energy.

We've come to accept it, but the, you know, the, In some of the rulings, and then the biggest ruling of all by the Supreme Court was of course the Citizens United decision. But in some of these rulings, the intent was, okay, we're gonna allow unlimited amounts of money to enter the political process by corporations and to some extent unions.

We've come to accept it, but the, you know, the, In some of the rulings, and then the biggest ruling of all by the Supreme Court was of course the Citizens United decision. But in some of these rulings, the intent was, okay, we're gonna allow unlimited amounts of money to enter the political process by corporations and to some extent unions.

We've come to accept it, but the, you know, the, In some of the rulings, and then the biggest ruling of all by the Supreme Court was of course the Citizens United decision. But in some of these rulings, the intent was, okay, we're gonna allow unlimited amounts of money to enter the political process by corporations and to some extent unions.

But the deal is we are concerned about, we're concerned, that sounds like Susan Collins, we're concerned about corruption. So we're going to insist that you can't give money directly to a candidate. You have to give it to an independent organization, a super PAC, or sometimes a 501c4, even better, because a super PAC, you have to disclose where the money comes from.