Alex Honnold

I think some people don't know that.

Oh, really?

Some people watch the movie and they literally have no idea what it's about or what's going on, and they spend the whole movie being like, oh, my God, what's going to happen?

So basically, I think climbing is always intrinsically motivated.

I mean, since I started climbing when I was a child, I've always loved climbing.

I love the movement of climbing.

I love the feeling of it.

I love the whole experience.

You know, just everything about it is great.

But then, you know, now as a professional climber, obviously there is that extrinsic motivation as well where you're like, oh, this is how I make a living.

And so I think with the film Free Solo, you know, it was a really interesting balance of the two where it's like, this is something that I'd love to do for myself.

And even if no one else in the world existed, I'd want to do this thing.

But then you also know that if you're, if the film turns out well, which it did, uh,

You know, it's going to be great for your career.

It's going to be great for whatever.

And so like there is that extrinsic motivation as well.

And so then you're always trying to parse out like which part is which.

And, you know, because you don't particularly with free soloing, you don't want to be too extrinsically motivated because you don't want to get pushed into something that you're not prepared for that you shouldn't be doing.

Of course, you know, being even being extrinsically motivated, you can do something you shouldn't.

You know, I don't know.