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My name is Andrew Collins. I am a science and history writer. So if you created stone form that was the shape of a human being, it was believed that that could be inhabited by a spirit that could talk to you. So the bird itself is protecting and guarding the soul. One of the other main functions of Gobekli Tepe is easy access into the sky world.

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And as I say, Egypt is where I've done three books specifically all about Egypt, you know, that have been well received. So quite a wide net.

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But the importance of it is that it contained the most incredible numerics relating to cosmic principles and everything. And this was what was written in this book by John Michel. Crooked Soli, there you go. And I mean, look at it. It is like the whole DNA pattern here. The double, the helix. I mean, there's a special term for it. I can't remember what it is.

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And so... I mean, we would not know about this if it had not been for this one guy that went over it and got these photographs on that day. And you can see the book. There's the Crockett Soley book that John Michel and who was the other guy that did it with him? Alan Brown, yeah.

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So this to me is the most fascinating of all of the crop formations because you think to yourself, why would you do this only for it to be mowed out and never be found? and incorporate so much numerics, cosmological principles into that. Now I'm not therefore saying it was created by aliens, but this is the perfect example of what crop formations are about.

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For me, they are symbols of transformation. What about cattle mutilation? Cattle mutilations. Well, that comes back to what we were talking about of these other, you know, brains or parallel universes or, you know, bubble universes interacting with their own. I mean, I've been to Skinwalker Ranch. I was there for a couple of days investigating that. I was there with a film crew.

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You know, in other words, all the stuff is revolving around that ball. And in shamanism, this is known as the hole in the sky. It's the hole that allows us to go from this world into the sky world itself. And to me, therefore, this is some kind of teaching device.

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And we certainly know that there you get cattle mutilations and cattle disappearing at one spot and reappearing inside closed containers and real weird stuff going on. So what's going on here? It's almost like a poltergeist house, but out in the landscape. with cattle mutilations and weird lights being seen.

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I think that what happens is that there are certain portal locations around the world of which Skinwalker Ranch is a perfect example where we do interact with these parallel universes or these otherworldly realms

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that these portal locations act as doorways, gateways, and that these intelligences, including, I would say, physical beings, can quite literally then manifest into our world and be here on a temporary basis. Now, that could be a few minutes, a few hours, a few weeks, but eventually they disappear because I think that what happens is that this parallel universe then shifts apart from our own

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and any evidence of its overlap or its overlay is gone. All you've got left is the consequences of that, which would be, in this case, cattle mutilations. And my only explanation for them, if, of course, we see them in terms of...

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supernatural or an extraterrestrial phenomena is that we are dealing with beings that quite literally are able to manifest into our physical environment do this and then go back from whence they came and the fact that often when this occurs you see these mysterious lights at the same time They, in many ways, are the portal. They are the doorway.

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And as you probably know, I think, was it Kelner, one of the guys that did the Skinwalker Ranch with George Knapp, you know, did all the investigations. Yeah, they said that they could see these lights and sometimes they could see through it into other environments. It's almost as if they were looking through into another world.

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So I think that this, if that is generally correct, is an example of these plasma phenomena acting as portals in their own right.

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It could be for experimentation and curiosity, but it could be something very similar to the Predator, you know, in the Predator films. Yeah, it's a great movie. It's like trophy hunting. Yeah. I mean, I would not discount that as a possibility.

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It's a teaching aid probably for practicing shamans who are coming up through the ranks, initiates, like this is what will happen when you go out of your body and enter into these next worlds. Look at the base of it, for instance, you have another vulture and you have a headless individual. So where's the guy's head? Well, that's directly above it, above the other vulture.

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Well, it is, but it's not just cows, is it? I mean... There's a place in Britain called Bempton in Yorkshire. And a friend of mine, Paul Sinclair, is the main UFO investigator up there. He's written various books. And what he shows is that the mutilations there involve sheep. They involve wild deer.

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And even porpoises in the sea would wash up with the same type of puncture holes and the rest of the creature itself would be perfect other than these bizarre puncture holes. So it's not simply cattle that we're dealing with. It's other types of creatures as well. So who knows? Maybe lions are being mutilated in that way and we just have never really looked at it that way.

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Maybe we just put it down to poachers or something like that.

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Well, right now it is all this plasma stuff because what's happened with all the drones and the New Jersey drones, which obviously is something that now is there with, I know, 10 states or more and it's becoming global, is that people are beginning to look towards the skies in a way that they've not done before. in many years. Now, what they're doing is misinterpreting a lot of things.

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I mean, they're misinterpreting aircraft, planets. I mean, when I see some of these videos, I think that's the planet Venus or that's an aircraft. I mean, clearly they are filming drones. Yeah, I mean, there's some very strange drones up there and we really don't know who they belong to, whether they are part of some kind of black ops, whether they are from some foreign nation.

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Or whether it's just copycat things that people just send in stuff up now just to get a frill and just to try and get a viral story out. We just don't know. But the fact that they clearly are also getting video footage of these orbs And when we say orbs, I mean, you get the impression of little balls of light. No, no, no, no. These things can be huge.

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They can be tube-shaped, you know, cigar-shaped. They're ovals. As I said, they often can be seen to have some kind of structure as well. So, yeah, that's important. We're not just talking about ball lightning here. We're talking about big objects. And they can appear and disappear. Some plasma can be visible, some not. But from plasma comes atomic matter. That's the crucial thing here.

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And it can be intelligent. And it can create physical environments, basically. So, you know... if they are being powered if you like by intelligences then they have the ability to create virtually what they like basically and i think the these scientific papers that have come out over the last year the fact that i know various documentaries are being made about the subject right now

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the this is the next big thing i mean plasma is going to be on everybody's mind basically and at the conferences everybody's going to be talking about it i mean i've been writing about this for decades i mean my book light quest came out in 2012. i did a book called origins of the gods with my good friend greg little uh come out 2022 it's all about plasma and intelligences

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And Robert Temple, the author of The Serious Mystery, but he did a book a couple of years ago called New Science of Heaven. Again, all about plasma and the upper atmosphere, how it can be intelligent. So all of this is contributing to show us that we could be coexisting with a form of life that's been with us since the beginning. How exciting is that?

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One of the most incredible discoveries of humanity. That's what interests me right now.

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Well, it's not made of green cheese.

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I think so, yeah. I mean, I tend to be quite conventional and orthodox in my views unless I see good evidence to the contrary. So, yeah, I do think that it is just a satellite. I mean, I'm not saying that we won't find weird stuff on it, you know, and also on Mars. I mean, I obviously keep up to date with...

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The reason why he's headless, and also notice that he has an erection as well, this is a very common symbol of entering an altered state of consciousness. You find it, for instance, in the Paleolithic cave of Lascaux in southern France, where you have a bird man that's falling backwards, a pole with a bird on it. You have a large...

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all of the footage from the rovers that are showing things, you think, what the hell is that? And it could be, you know, discarded technology or evidence of, you know, intelligence activity. It could be. But until we get up there and look for ourselves, it's always just going to remain a mystery or an enigma, isn't it? You know, it's like Phobos, the moon of Mars.

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There's a huge great pillar there. There's an even better one on Mars itself. Obviously, NASA and scientists say, oh, it's probably just some kind of meteor that landed or something. But no, they look like proper pillars. Pull that up, right? You know? Yeah, look, Phobos. There you go, Phobos monolith. I mean, you can quite clearly see it's there. And it's huge.

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I mean, look at the shadow that's cast from it. And the Mars monolith. I mean, look at that. Have they estimated the height of that? I don't know. But, I mean, it's going to be large, isn't it? I mean, look at the craters around it. Look at that one on the right here. I mean, that's the Mars one. I mean, that's clearly like a 2001 Odyssey monolith, isn't it? It is, for sure. Clearly.

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I mean, that's the impression. That it leaves with you.

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Really? I mean, you would think by now they would be over there with the satellites getting much better footage.

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Okay. Well, it's big, isn't it?

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16 feet tall. It's big. So, I mean, all right. Yeah, look, it could be natural. I bet it's bigger than that. But, I mean, it's tempting, isn't it? It's so tempting. Yeah.

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to go down there and find out what it is i mean i think the problem is that we went there to look at the face on mars and we got the imagery and when it came back it looked terrible you know when they went back the face on mars yeah no and it looked terrible because they photoshopped it 15 times and then released the photos yeah it's not a real photograph all right well

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oryx or bull you have a rhino and um that you've this individual is clearly a person who's entered an altered state of consciousness there you go so this is what you see at lascaux this is inside what's known as the world chamber which is the deepest and darkest part of the lascaux cave and you can see this bird man why is he at such an angle because he's falling back into a hole that's just beneath

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Also, there's a very strong geometrical form with the whole shape anyway. Yeah, they're a bunch of liars. They're a bunch of... Well, I mean, obviously, was it NASA? Never a straight answer.

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I mean, look, NASA are definitely changing. You know, they've got their own UAP investigation team. Okay, all right, one last thing then. We talked about multiple dimensions, 11 dimensions. There is a... company or corporation in Switzerland called the Blue Brain Project.

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and their whole idea is to try and transfer consciousness into digital format and to do this they they have to totally understand how the brain works i mean literally how consciousness and you know the brain functions and what they have concluded and this was a headline probably about 10 years ago now is that the brain operates on 11 dimensions of geometry.

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And I find that really, really intriguing because if M theory is correct, that proposes that 11 dimensions exist, then what it means is that we are hardwired to work on 11 dimensions. I mean, it's a little bit like our smartphones, you know, having 5G, you know, this is 5G compatible when we were still on 3G or 4G. Do you know what I mean? It's almost like our brains are ready

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to be able to connect with multi-dimensional environments when that opportunity arises but that also raised the question of is it possible therefore that we are able to communicate with the intelligences that exist within 11 dimensions now through dreams through visions you know through hallucinogenic experiences

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know and to me i think that the answer is yes i mean we call these these entities n-dimensional beings the n standing for number because we don't know exactly how many um dimensions may be involved just means number so we call them n beings or n-dimensional beings and i think that they are the key to everything i think that they are out there i think they do interact with us i think they can communicate with us you know through

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altered states through dreams whatever and definitely through plasma environments and there are certain places like skinwalker ranch or mount gerizim benton in the uk or any similar um you know ufo hotspot where communication with these intelligences becomes a lot easier nice nice well tell us uh tell everybody one more time how can people follow you and how can they find you

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Yeah, my website is andrewcollins.com. All my social media links are on there. And there are tons of articles about everything that we've been talking about that you can just click through and link. That's andrewcollins.com. And obviously, I'd like you to check out some of my books. I mean, Light Quest is the one that we were talking about to do with interacting with plasma intelligences.

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Also, the last book wearing my other hat, of course, is Karahan Tepe, Civilization of the Anunnaki and the Cosmic Origins of the Serpent of Eden. That's it. Publishers like very long titles, I'm afraid. It's meta tags. A lot of keywords.

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um so yeah and anything else and obviously if if you're interested in any of the work i do and want to communicate uh there's email links um on the website or obviously just try and contact me direct message me direct message me via social media love it love it very cool man well i enjoyed it it's great to talk to you great to get to know you today and learn a lot so we'll do it again well thank you for having me yep

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the actual bird itself. That represents Yeah, what we refer to as a soul hole in German, a Seelenloch, which is the way that you go from one world to the next. You need these soul holes. You find them at Gobekli Tepe and at Karahan as like the circular or even rectilinear holes inside these porthole stones.

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They represent the beginning of the journey into a liminal realm from this world into the next. So, yeah, I mean, Lascaux, so you've got this Birdman. Yeah, there you go. So, I mean, these are the soul holes in enclosure D on the left and enclosure C at Gobekli Tepe on the right. The one on the right obviously has been broken. And...

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These are generally placed in the enclosures at Gobekli Tepe in the north-northwestern part of it. In fact, the one on the left, enclosure D, is next to the Vulture Stone, as they call it, or Pillar 43. So, you know, why is this area important? Well, to me, it relates to the stars that would be seen on the local horizon because...

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The main enclosures at Gobekli Tepe seem to be orientated north-northwestwards towards the setting of the bright star Deneb in the constellation of Cygnus, the celestial vulture. In other words, they saw this as the direction that they would go to enter into the sky world. Why? Because...

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Deneb and the constellation of Cygnus is at a spot on the Milky Way where the Milky Way breaks into two separate streams. And in the middle of it, you have this thing called the Dark Rift, which is basically caused by dust and debris in line with the galactic plane. And this has been seen by many ancient cultures as the road or river to enter into the sky world.

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In Mayan tradition, for instance, it's known as the road to Zilbulba, And we interpret the term Zilbalba as underworld, but basically just means other world or the other place in the other world. And it's there in Native American tradition as well.

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In fact, obviously, we're talking about southeastern Turkey here, where all of these ideas are also present amongst at least 30 to 40 different tribal peoples of North America. They have the same death journey. And with them, for instance,

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the either the shaman or the person that's you know that's died literally their soul was seen to make a leap of faith from this world into the next world by going to the constellation of orion and in native american tradition it was a particular object not in the belt of orion but in the sword of orion known as messiah 42 or m42 and they would go towards this hit that

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Well, I always say that I've written about 15, but I've been saying that for the last 10 years. So it must be a lot more than that by now. I mean, I started writing serious books in the 1980s. And from that point onwards, I've never stopped until now and don't intend to really.

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And that would allow them access through what they call an OG, which means a hole, a soul hole again, onto the Milky Way. And they would then continue that journey around to Cygnus where they would encounter a figure known as Brainsmasher. I know it's a crude term, and there's a reason why it's called that, because it releases the soul from the skull.

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In other words, up to that point, it's still contained within the soul, but at this point, when it enters from there into the next world, it's like the soul is released from the head once it goes into the sky world. And so you've got this in Native American tradition, you've got it in Southeastern Turkey, but in addition to that, you've got it in Egypt.

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You know, in the pyramid text, which we find obviously in the pyramids from the fifth dynasty onwards, there is described the sky journey of the dead Pharaoh or whoever is interred in these pyramids. And once again, it's exactly the same journey. You go from this world, you go through this underworld known as the Duat to start with, and then you rise up out of that in the pre-dawn light.

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and go to the constellation of Orion, which was known as Sa or Sahu in ancient Egyptian mythological tradition. And that gave you access to the Milky Way. The Milky Way in Egypt was known as the winding waterway. And you would go from there into the northern part of the sky. This is what the texts say, where the soul of the individual who was now in the form of Osiris, the god Osiris,

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the dead God, the God who is dead. That's what basically Osiris is. And Osiris would then greet his mother. His mother was the goddess Nuit, N-U-T. And she is personification, not just of the sky, but the Milky Way in particular. And the texts say that the soul is embraced by his mother and within her womb, he or she will gain rebirth into the afterlife.

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And that womb corresponds on the Milky Way to the constellation of Cygnus. So what you have in Native American tradition, in Turkey amongst Taz Tepela, you also have in ancient Egyptian tradition as well. In other words, this is a universal tradition. journey into the other world that was probably all over the Eurasian continent.

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It was in the North American continent and it's found, I mean, I've traced it in to Mesoamerica, into South America and it's same basic journey really. And this tells us that these ideas must be incredibly old and that they probably had a shared origin. And this origin clearly goes back much earlier than Tash Teppala. And it could be 15,000, 20,000 years old. Arguably, it's faulty.

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Some people have even suggested 60,000 years old.

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Yeah, I mean, what you've got at Gobekli Tepe is the makings of a glyphic alphabet or a glyphic system, one that was probably present already in the caves during the Paleolithic period, but is now beginning to develop.

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Yeah. I mean, you know, my website is AndrewCollins.com and all of the links through to social media and obviously YouTube are on there. So, yeah, that's where to look.

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into a written language and amongst them you have these h symbols but you find them both sideways in other words horizontal and also you have them vertical and to me the vertical ones can be seen as the t-shaped pillars themselves but reflected downwards as well as if they're being reflected in water to give you the tea at the top and the tea at the bottom with the stalk or stem in between.

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And the one thing that we're beginning to notice in some of the enclosures at Gobekli and at Karahan is that they would have contained water in the past. They would have retained water. And when this would have happened... Now, this probably was... you know, not very deep. I mean, it could just have been six inches.

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But, of course, what this would do, particularly in the moonlight or starlight, is reflect those T-shaped pillars, particularly those in the centre of them, down below as well. So you would see them as above and so below as well. But...

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the ones on their side i think have a slightly different um but connected interpretation i think what you're looking at here is the idea of twins uh two different individuals or aspects that are linked together and if we look at them in terms of human beings it would be like shaking hands and on the front of pillar 18

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at gobekli tepe you have just this um on the actual um neck of the individual you can see these two vertical figures that seem to be shaking hands with both hands in other words you know that they're both reached out and you can see this i mean i don't know if you can pull that up uh quickly quick enough But you will see that this is there.

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So in other words, we are dealing with something where we're relating to twins, the idea of two. Why two? Well, because there was an ancient belief, and again, this is something that's found in cosmological tradition still to this day, of the idea of cosmic twins.

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the idea that originally there was a single source, something that may have existed before the creation of the physical universe, but this then splits into two to create either twins or a dualistic principle, you know, let's say black and white, day and night, you know, two arms, left and right, two legs, two eyes, et cetera, et cetera, but that originally,

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everything was together everything was as one and that when you look at the enclosures at gobekli tepe when you have these these twin pillars in the center that's what this represents this is the split from the original source and the idea of going through those pillars going through into a liminal realm

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Yeah, Taj Tepela. I mean, this is the term that's used for this high culture, and some might even say civilization, that existed in the area of what is today Southeast Turkey from around 10,000 B.C. down to 8,000 B.C., And it involves a large number of sites that are incredibly sophisticated with stone enclosures, with a large number of what they call T-shaped pillars on which are carved animals.

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whether it be in an altered state or otherwise, is to get back to that primary source, the source of it all, the beginning of everything. And maybe we should talk about Urfa Man. You asked me about evidence of these three different worlds and what was going on.

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Yes. I mean, okay, let's talk about the H for a second again. The I, I'm not too sure about. We can interpret that in different ways. But the H itself is something that crops up in various different cultures, as you said to Anarka at Poemapunkka. There, it's part of a building block.

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And yes, it would have had symbolic meaning, but I think to try and understand it, we have to look at Mesoamerican tradition, where the H represented two different worlds with the stem linking the two of them. And this was the shape that was given to the ball courts, where they would have this ball game, similar to a very ancient Rora form of rugby or American football, whatever.

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you have these two separate like, you know, stems that are linked in the middle. That was the shape of those ball courts. And this was cosmological in nature and related to the link between the two separate worlds. So clearly I think that when you're looking at it at Gobekli, you have similar ideas that you're dealing with two separate things that are linked together.

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Now, whether you see them as individuals, whether you see them as black and white or yin and yang,

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or whatever it's about this dual relationship both in a material sense but also in a cosmic sense as well so um what else are we talking about um yeah okay so we've obviously got the images here right now on the left this is the interior section but beneath the the hems um oh sorry each side of the hems of

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Pillar 18 at Gobekli Tepe in enclosure D. Now you've got this, obviously this crescent, which I think probably does represent the moon, you know, or certainly the horns, horns, which are, you know, symbols of the moon, but you've also got an object above that. Now, some people have interpreted that as an eye. There is a point right in the center of it.

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So this could represent an eye, but it could equally represent the full moon itself. So in other words, you've got the crescent, which represents the crescent moon. And obviously above that, you've got the full moon, but almost in the form of an eye. But above this, you have these two pillar-like figures, and you can clearly see that they've got beaks. They're facing each other.

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There's little holes that are also suggestive of eyes and you have them linked in hands. Now, you can't properly see it, but there is also another similar link about where the beaks are. And this seems to be like they're holding, they've got both of their hands out and they're linked with the other person, both hands.

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I mean, I've tried to, you know, mimic this actually inside Chadley Earth Archaeological Museum, but standing between, the full-size reconstruction of enclosure D, you know, to try and get photographs to show what we mean to do with this. But why two?

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As I said, it's to do with the twin pillars themselves and it's about the division from a single to a double, to black and white, positive and negative, good and bad. You know, these people seem to believe that originally there was... some kind of primal singularity that then splits into two.

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And one of the reasons why they're creating these incredible enclosures is to get back to the beginning, get back to the source, to be able to leave this material existence. Now, why would they want to do that? Well, because they were living in a world where there were animals that could... eat them and attack them and, you know, cause huge problems.

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This would have been a world which was just coming out of a 1,200-year ice age known as the Younger Dryas, which we know now the evidence seems to point towards the fact that it was triggered by a cosmic event, almost certainly the fragmentation of a comet that caused these air blasts that...

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quite literally lit up the whole of the northern hemisphere and created a period of darkness triggering uh an ice age this mini ice age and that ends at 9 600 bc and that's the precise time that gobekli tepe is created so you have to get yourself into the minds of these people what would it have been like at this time what would be going on in their heads

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And there's a lady by the name of Barbara Han Clough, visionary writer, wrote a book called Catastrophobia, which was all about the state of mind of the human race after this cataclysm. And she coined this term, Catastrophobia, for the state of mind of people at this time. I think it's an incredible term because it's right. People would have feared cataclysm.

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every time that a comet came into the sky that something bad was going to happen possibly even the end of the world and what i have written in various of my books is that one of the other main functions of gobekli tepe and these t-pillared enclosures is easy access into the sky world to deal with the supernatural creatures that will seem to be responsible for cataclysms now what type of creatures we're talking about here

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But the pillars themselves, for the most part, are anthropomorphic. In other words, they are abstract human beings. You know, they've got these arms in relief down the side of the stems. They have like the hems of garments. They have these neckties, which possibly are chains with something on it. And off the end of those, there's symbols, you know, bull's head or some other weird glyph.

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We're talking about tricksters. Tricksters is a universal idea that you have these gods generally in the form of an animal that can be good, but they can also be bad. Here in North America, of course, the main trickster is coyote. It can also be the wolf also. In Europe and in the Near East, it was the fox.

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And the fox was seen as the trickster, which is one of the reasons why I think that you have so many images of foxes carved onto the stones at Gobekli Tepe. And we know that they were... involved with some kind of fox shamanism because so many bones of foxes have been found inside the enclosure, particularly enclosure D. So we know that they were using a form of animism. Yep, there you go.

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There's one of the foxes there.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, more bones of foxes than any other creature, basically. What else are they finding in there? Well, they're obviously finding, you know, human remains, but not many. I mean, most of the human remains that are being found at Gabelli Tepe are probably secondary burials that are being placed inside the walls sometime after the construction of these monuments.

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And the earliest ones are dating to about 9,600 B.C., like Enclosure D. This is Enclosure B that probably dates to about 9,200 B.C., But they go all the way down to about 8,000 BC and then suddenly they just stop. And the younger they become, the more simpler they are and the smaller they are as well.

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Until eventually they're creating these tiny little rooms, which I describe as almost looking like jacuzzis, because they've got like these benches around them, like you would get in a jacuzzi. And you have these tiny little T-pillars that are probably no more than about four to six feet in height. And they're generally two of them. And they're in like these little rooms.

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So they're still going through the motions of creating these T-pillars. And as I said, a lot of the human remains are quite late on in the day. They're not from 9,600 BC. They're from, say, 9,000 BC or 8,500. So that makes it more difficult to know exactly who created them in the first place.

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Well, yeah, I think it was the same people. But, I mean, this brings it on to who created Tash Tepela. And my answer to that is that it's a cosmopolitan creation you know, venture of various different peoples that have come together to do this.

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You would have had the indigenous peoples, most of those that would be associated with the mountains, they're known as the Zazians, they would have lived in the Zagros Mountains and also the Taurus Mountains. You have probably peoples coming up from the Levant, you know, the countries today of Palestine, Israel, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, the so-called Natufian peoples.

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And they were as far south as Egypt. And we know that there was links, direct links or indirect links. between the area of Tashtepela, Shanlurfa region and Egypt going back to 9000 BC at least through sites like Helwan, which is within the visual site of the Pyramids of Giza because the tools have been found there that match those at Tashtepela sites like Gobekli Tepe.

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So we'd have had those people. You'd have had other people probably coming in from the Marmara area of western Turkey and on the Aegean coast. And these people would have been incredibly sophisticated because they were creating seafaring vessels that were traveling from Anatolia to Cyprus to create permanent ships.

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and the the t-shape itself is the head the head of the individual it extends out the back that's probably an elongated head or a headdress that's probably covered up and of course the front is the jaw you know the jawline basically and we can tell this from the fact that many t-shaped pillars have been discovered that are not so abstract that more realistic in their appearance

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settlements there so this wasn't just the odd sea voyage here and there these were clearly regular journeys that were going between the anatolian coast and the aegean into cyprus on a regular basis so these people clearly must have been sophisticated

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and on top of this you have what i call the x factor and i think these are the main prime movers that came in and they were coming down either from the north via the caucasus or from the east again via the zagros mountains and these peoples were coming from as far east as the ural mountains that divide europe from asia and beyond that in to siberia and mongolia

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The snake of the Garden of Eden is a memory of that Milky Way, the cosmic serpent itself. The space shuttle missions have all reported these objects that manifest in the presence of the spacecraft. These people didn't go somewhere else for three hours. They were taken out of normal space time. Now we have this scientific basis for the idea that plasma could be the key to understanding UAP.

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and that their journey was a series of waves that probably started as early as 30,000 years ago. Why do we know they came from there? Because of their stone tools. You can trace, almost like a paper trail, the type of stone tools that were being used in Siberia and Mongolia anything between 30,000 and 45,000 years ago, a highly sophisticated toolkit that gradually finds its way

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all the way down into Anatolia, where it reaches probably about 10,000 BC. So that's actually during the time of the Younger Dryas. And thereafter, you have a series of settlements that are created in the area of Lake Varne, this huge inland sea.

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and in the armenian highlands which are just to the northwest of lake varm and these are mostly on the river tigris okay now these have been explored relatively recently um places like um cortec tepe halen chemi and other sites in that region that are very sophisticated but they don't have the T-shaped pillars. They have pillars, sophisticated jewelry.

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They have the Soho stones that we've already seen. And they seem to be the precursors of those that will eventually create Tejtepla around 9,600 BC. Because what happens is that they seem to be moving westwards into the area of the Shanli Urfa region. And... There, everything suddenly explodes into these weird T-shaped pillar enclosures, which are unique.

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I mean, they're only in the Shanlefa region. And I mean, just over the edges, occasionally into the surrounding regions. But this is the only place that they create this. So something very special is taking place in this area. I mean, I call it the first post Ice Age civilization. My colleague, Hugh Newman, who I know you've interviewed, he calls it the super civilization.

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And whatever way you look at it, we're dealing with extreme high culture here with technology, technology,

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innovation cosmological ideas technical skills that clearly have been around for a very very long period of time i mean not just a few hundred years but many thousands of years now what do the archaeologists say about all of this well they they think that it all developed on the spot probably over a period of a few hundred years But I don't think so.

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I think that we are clearly dealing with the next generation of something that had been around and that, in my opinion... for the most part, comes from as far east as, as I say, the Urals and beyond that into Siberia and Mongolia. But you can also see technical skills coming up from the Levant. I mean, where they were also, I mean, let's just go on to Karahan for a second, Karahan Tepe.

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Here you have rock architecture going back as early as 9,500 BC. And what I mean by that is you have enclosures that are carved out of the bedrock itself, right? one of which is the Pillar Shrine, which is an extraordinary structure.

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And they show that, they show human beings. So we know that these T-shaped pillars represent humans. All of them? Well, I think that the idea is for them to have spirit. In other words, everyone that's created has its own spirit.

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Yeah. But I mean... I mean, clearly these sites like Gobekli Tepe and Karahan Tepe are multifunctional, one of which is easy access into the sky world. And I think that this is something that these prime movers, this shamanic elite, as I call them, who end up becoming like these bird shamans, literally wearing the cloaks of vultures,

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uh they're also snake shamans as well snakes would seem to be one of their chosen totems possibly the goat um you know clearly the fox as well um these are clan totems i think the so you'd have had different human groups that would have been doing different things but they would have been coming together

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at these sites um there's a big difference by the way between carahan tepe and gobekli which we'll come on to but to me gobekli is i i see it almost like a sort of catholic cathedral um where you have like the main church you have the high altar the choir um but you also have

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whole series of chapels you know that are dedicated to different saints you know so michael the virgin mary and it's the same at gobekli tepe you have these dozens and dozens of um smaller enclosures that would eventually be built and i think the people are coming in

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from probably you know as i said maybe from western anatolia probably down from the levant they're probably coming down off the mountains and they're spending time in these they're probably allotted a particular room where they do their own ceremonies now these ceremonies as you say could easily have involved hallucinogens almost certainly they did but they would also have been for healing

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They would also have been for dream incubation, you know, to try and find your destiny, your fate, and, you know, and to communicate with the ancestors. I mean, this was one of the most important things, is to connect and to retain that connection with your great ancestors. So Gobekli is, as I said, it's almost like a big Catholic cathedral to me. Except the drugs. Whereas, yeah.

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I mean, this is something that we find more difficult to comprehend today because we only give spirit to animals, to ourselves, possibly to some kind of discarnate entity or whatever. But in the past, people believed that everything had spirit. And so if you created a stone form that was the shape of a human being, it was believed that that could be inhabited by a spirit that could talk to you.

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Whereas, you know, somewhere like Karahan Tepe, that's a much deeper thing going on there. It's almost, I see Gobekli Tepe as like the main big site. And then, you know, unless we find another one that matches it, then that is your mother load, if you like. Karahan Tepe... is something where something much deeper is taking place. You're creating these incredible rock-cut enclosures.

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I mean, the pillar shrine is, you have these, what they've done is they've dropped down into the bedrock to leave behind 10 pillars, these almost phallic-looking pillars that are within this room. There you go. There's a picture of it there. And you've got an 11th pillar, which they brought in from the outside and put into a slot.

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That's the one sort of just in the middle, off to the right and down a bit. But then, yeah, that's the one. But then you have on the wall itself, which is the direction of the hill, Karahan Tepe, which is this limestone hill. You have this huge... human head that's about three times the size of a normal human head. I mean, it doesn't do it justice with this picture.

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You'll probably be able to get a better picture of the head itself. And there you go. And it's on the end of this long neck, which you can see here, which also continues downwards as well. And that's clearly serpentine in nature. In fact, there are striations, marks, parallel lines across it that are accentuating its serpentine nature.

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And it's also got an open mouth as well, which I think is incredibly important because if you sit opposite it, which I have done, and look at it, the only thing that you keep thinking of is that it's trying to say something to you. It's speaking to you. And you think if you are in an altered state, maybe you've done some hallucinogens, there's no way that that's not going to talk to you.

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So, you know, if you are... if you are in this shrine and you've got these pillars around you, what on earth is happening here? And I think the clue comes from the fact that if you look vertically downwards onto this particular shrine, it's actually in the shape of a snake's head. The whole entire shrine is a snake's head. And the pillars themselves are,

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They probably got multiple meanings, but one of them is that they could even be the fangs of the snake itself. So you have to ask the question, why would you go inside the head of a snake? In other words, you've created this room, you're going inside it. We think it did have a roof. It is astronomically aligned as well, as my colleague Hugh Newman will have talked to you about.

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And why would you do this? Why would you go into the head of a snake or a mouth of a snake? And the idea, I think, is the same as the consumption of the human body by the vultures. You're to be eaten, symbolically at least, to actually become almost a part of the DNA of the snake itself. The large head coming out of the wall is what I'd refer to as a snake genius.

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In other words, a snake with a human head that's clearly there to inform you, to communicate with you when you're in this state. But of course, the question then becomes... What is this snake? You know, is it simply a mundane snake, you know, like people see when they're in altered states of consciousness?

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I mean, I've talked to a number of people who have had ayahuasca experiences, for instance, and one of the most primary things that they will see is,

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are snakes they'll snakes be winding around trees or around doorways or whatever and often they will talk about a single snake that will come up to them a large snake and want to quite literally enter inside them and often people are are not expecting something like this to happen so they you know they they they reject it and you know but

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The people I've spoken to said that I think that it wanted to give me knowledge and wisdom and that I should have allowed it to enter inside me. Well, put this together with the fact that there are cults, religious cults in this world to this day that allow the spirits of snakes to enter inside them. It's there, for instance, in the Verdun tradition of Haiti.

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Now, the identity of that spirit would possibly change. I mean, it could be a great ancestor. Maybe it could be a celestial being. Some have suggested the first gods. But whatever it was, that spirit could talk to you and you could connect with it. And clearly, the bigger the T pillars, the more spirit that they would have.

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where people are possessed by the god called Damballa. And they will quite literally writhe around on the ground as if they have been possessed by snakes. It happens in Thailand as well. There is a religious festival where people, particularly the guys, have these tattoos of snakes placed. put on their arm.

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And this is done with cigarette ash, interestingly enough, and also snake venom can be used. And then the ceremonies will proceed and they will then be possessed by the spirits of snakes. And again, literally crawl around it on the ground and writhe around as if possessed by snakes. And I think something similar was going on at Karahan Tepe around 9,000 to 9,500 BC.

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So again, we asked the question, you know, what is this snake? And the clue is astronomical in nature because next to the pillar shrine is another shrine that we call the pit shrine. And this is structure AA at Karahan Tepe. And the reason why we call it that is because it's got this huge structure almost like rough swimming pool in the middle of it.

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And I call it a swimming pool because it almost looks like there's a diving board by the side of it that you can almost leap into it. And people have suggested, and I think may be correctly, that this would have contained water in the past.

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Presumably for some kind of initiatory purpose, people would go into it, like the Druids were known to go into bodies of water for whole nights or even days on end to gain knowledge and wisdom. but you've got this pit shrine, and as soon as I saw overhead shots of it in 2001 after the excavations began there, I thought, that's aligned towards the sun at the time. There you go.

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The pit shrine is the one... on the left here pointing downwards. You can see the pillar shrine obviously above that. And by the way, you can see its shape. Look at the shape of it. Look how that is the shape of a snake. I mean, I've overlaid. the head of a local poisonous snake, which is the Anatolian meadow viper, which we now know definitely was being used in ceremonies at Karahantepai.

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And look to the left of the pillar shrine. Look at that thick curve that comes away from the pillar shrine. You see that? Yep. That to me is the edge almost showing the shadow of the actual body of the snake, which is beneath it. So in other words, that's highlighting the body of the snake that's curling around the side of the pit shrine itself.

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And even the pit shrine, I think is another head of a snake, slightly different shape. And we know that because on the side of the pitch shrine is a very long incised snake. The head of that incised snake, which is on a bench in structure AA, the pitch shrine, is the same shape. There you go. So on the right here, you've got the head of the snake. You can see it's slightly raised up there.

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So that in the center of enclosures at places like Gobekli Tepe and Karahan Tepe, You've got these huge, great monoliths with T-shaped terminations, and some of these are as much as 18 feet tall and probably weigh anything between 5 and 10 tons.

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And obviously someone here has linked it with the Milky Way, which is obviously what I've been saying for many years since 2021, since all this first was released. And that snake there, well, this is the clue. Firstly, the pitch shrine is orientated towards the midsummer season. sunset in 9,000 BC when it was constructed.

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And if you wait for another two hours, you will see where the sun has set the Milky Way rising vertically up in the sky with the dark rift, which we've already talked about in between. And it goes up to the stars of Cygnus and obviously Deneb, the bright star in it, but right on the horizon. you have the stars that surround what's known as the galactic bulge.

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The galactic bulge is the center of our own Milky Way galaxy. It was incredibly bright in the past, almost like a light bulb in the sky, and has universally been seen as the head of a creature, generally a snake. And the fact that the dark rift cuts through it accentuates that whole idea that it's the mouth of a creature. That creature is generally interpreted as a snake. So in other words,

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The snake itself is a cosmic snake and it's the Milky Way itself. And obviously this person here has tried to show this. This here, I'm not sure, I presume that that is the central area of the galaxy and somewhere here is galactic center. the very center of our galaxy. And this was the area that these people were focusing on.

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And they were focusing on the galactic center for the simple reason that to them, if they want to speak to the spirit of this snake, they need to speak to the head because they saw the head, as we've already talked about, as the point of focus of the human soul, but also by virtue of that, the soul of a snake genius like this.

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um so they're focusing on this now would they have been aware of galactic center being at this exact spot maybe i think that they may have been aware that there was some kind of intelligence associated with this area of the sky and that they would have interpreted this as the place of beginning the source the origin of everything and um

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My book, Karahan Tepe, is dedicated to a late friend of mine who was John Major Jenkins, who wrote extensively about the Mayan culture, 2012. He also did a book called Galactic Alignment. And it was a book that put together evidence from all the way around the world that ancient cultures were aware of galactic center. It's an incredible book if people haven't already, you know, got onto it.

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And I think that he is right, that people were focusing on that area of the sky as almost like the source of everything. Now, why exactly they got onto it, I don't know. Let's call it intuition, if you like. But this also corresponded to the head of this cosmic serpent, which was the Milky Way itself. And this was seen to wrap itself around the Earth, the other world, if you like. And...

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And these are clearly important figures because you would enter into those enclosures, you would walk towards them, and it would be like they were looking down. I mean, there's one, for instance, in enclosure D at Gobekli that it's got its head tilted down. as if like to greet you as you approach.

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A good example of this is in Norse mythology. If you could find, for instance, the Norse tree Yuddrasil, the world tree, there is a great illustration that was done of it in the 19th century that shows the world tree, the ash tree Yuddrasil, and then you have the top branches are clearly in Skyworld. Obviously, the area around the base of the tree is the middle. There you go. That's the one.

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and you can see there and below that in the roots you have what you would refer to as the lower world or the underworld now obviously this is very you know stylized in the 19th century but this is the three worlds again that you've got here you've got the sky world up the top where the branches this is where the sky world was accessed from obviously not particularly well illustrated here

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You have the middle world, which is where we live, and then you have the lower world underneath. And all three of these would have been accessible via the trunk of Yggdrasil itself. But what you also have here is this snake that curls around the known earth itself within the ocean. That is what's known as the Midgard Serpent. Where is that? You see the main mountain in the middle? There you go.

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oh right now that is the world encircling serpent and again this is something that's universally known it's there in ikadian myth it's there in hindu myth north americans have their own idea of it it's there in south american and mesoamerican myth it's there in greek myth um

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Yeah, I mean, obviously, they all have their own different forms of it and their own different versions of how it looks and how it's placed. But it's known as the world-encircling snake. And the closest that you find it to Tashtepela is...

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in the area around Lake Vaughan to the east where you have an indigenous, well you did have unfortunately not there now, an indigenous peoples and religion known as the Yazidi, a much troubled culture and religion that exists to this day mostly in Syria, northern Iraq, in Armenia and luckily many of them have migrated to Europe and Australia to keep the culture and religion alive.

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And they also believed in the world encircling a snake. And what they said was that if, and they basically saw it as like what the ancient Egyptians referred to as the Oriborus, you know, the snake that is chasing its own tail. And the Yazidi had their own form of this. And what they said was that if ever the snake head catches up with the tail, the end of the world would come.

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So that's what was going on here, whereas obviously the archaeologists would consider them simply roof supports. As far as they're concerned, they have no spirit, no other function other than to support a roof. But unfortunately, I think that this is...

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And I mean, this is very interesting because it clearly suggests it's cyclic. It's going round in a circle. and that it relates to the beginning and the end of time. You know, in other words, it probably began its journey at the beginning of time, will continue on until the end of time, the end of the world.

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And again, there's probably a reference here somewhere to cataclysms and what, you know, cataclysms of the past, cataclysms of the future. So this is what these people were venerating. And if you want an example of what was going on at Corahan Tepeh,

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Look no further than the Delphic Oracle in Greece, because what you have here is a very ancient religious cult focused around female priestesses who were known as the Pythia or the Oracle. And there was only ever one at one time, by the way. And according to legend, they would sit over a vent or a fissure in the rock within this underground room beneath the Temple of Apollo.

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And the fumes would rise up from a dead serpent, a dead serpent who was Python that had been killed by Apollo himself. That's it. There you go. when he reached this area looking for a place to build his own temple okay and he came across this this this serpent who guarded the spot apparently he kills it and it's the body that provides the fumes that intoxicate the priestess

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And then what happens is that Apollo enters inside her, possesses her, and speaks through her. Now, all right, what's our first idea of Apollo? You know, this sky god or sun god or whatever. Yeah? No, no, no. The form of Apollo that would possess the Pythia was a snake because this was the way that Apollo would appear in an oracular form. And I give various examples of this in the book.

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She's being possessed by Apollo in the form of a snake. And, of course, she then gives pronouncements, and those pronouncements can decide the fate or destiny of kings, kings,

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of kingdoms and even the gods themselves that's how powerful and important these oracle sites were and i think that something similar was taking place at carahan tepe but on a much more shamanic animistic rora level as i said i think if we saw the rituals that were taking place at carahan

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completely undermining the actual function of these sites, which clearly are ceremonial, they're ritual, but they're also functional in the fact that they probably allow individuals who are entering into altered states to leave, to go to other worlds. It would seem, and we'll obviously get onto this later,

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you would probably be looking at people that were in trance, probably covered in white ash and black ash and whatever else, falling about and literally being possessed and making pronouncements, probably speaking in this tongue, which probably only the attendants could actually understand. But with it was knowledge and information that would help,

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that community would allow them to advance on the technological, innovative, cosmological level, all these different levels. In other words, continuing on a tradition, I think, that was probably already many thousands of years old.

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Well, when you say accepted, I mean, the first thing that comes to mind is the archaeologists working at the site. And it's a difficult one because... people like myself, Graham Hancock, Hugh Newman, have this sort of relationship with them which, from their point of view, they want to try and do everything to disprove everything that we say. So anything we say, they'll say the opposite.

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Like, for instance, the astronomical alignments, which are very clearly present.

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That's the winter solstice for the pillar shrine at Corahan Tepe. But you have solar alignments with two of the enclosures at Gobekli Tepe, which is the Lion Pillars building and enclosure F. But you also have obviously stellar alignments towards Cygnus and maybe even other stars at both Gobekli and at Karahan.

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There's no question that there are alignments towards Cygnus, the Milky Way, and obviously the galactic bulge at Karahan.

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No, no. I mean, you know, I mean... What we do is go to these sites on a frequent nature, basically. In other words, we'll go there a couple, three times a year. We'll go to Gobekli, find out what's new there. We'll go to Karahan, find out what's new there. We'll go to any other of these Taj Tepela sites. And remember, these are not in isolation now. There's at least 12 of these sites.

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The archaeologists predict that there could be as many as 40 of them there. You know, only a few of which are actually being investigated at this time. So our idea is they hate. Let's just be honest here. They cannot handle it. Yes, they accept that shamans may have been involved and may be therefore animism.

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You know, obviously the adoption of animal forms for religious or ceremonial or ritual practices.

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I think that people like Lee Clare have suggested in passing And Dr. Lee Clare is a British archaeologist that's working at Gobekli Tepe right now. He took over from Professor Klaus Schmidt, the German archaeologist that was the discoverer of Gobekli Tepe in the mid-1990s and worked there right the way through until the unfortunate and premature end of his life in 2014.

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Klaus Schmidt was a very open-minded person and forward-thinking as well. He wrote an incredible book just called Gobekli Tepe. It was originally in German. It was translated into English. And he was so forward-thinking in his ideas. Unfortunately, a lot of the archaeologists that work at these sites now haven't got that same vision, I'm afraid.

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that they believed in probably three different worlds, the world in which we lived in, which is the middle world or the middle earth, the sky world, which we might call heaven if you like, and the lower world, which you can also call the underworld. And these are ideas which from the imagery that you see in the carving seem to be present,

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I mean, they look at what we do and they will try and do the complete opposite. As I mentioned about the astronomical alignments, celestial alignments, in their opinion, every enclosure had a roof, therefore they wouldn't have seen the stars, therefore they weren't interested in the heavens, which is just stupid because virtually every culture around the world, past and present,

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has had an interest in the stars, the celestial bodies, the sun, the moon, and aligned their monuments for that reason. I mean, this is not rocket science. This is something which ethnological studies will show. Native American, let's say, medicine wheels, they're orientated towards stars.

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They want to... Make everything as mundane as possible. The other thing, of course, is the idea that at the end of its useful life, Gobekli Tepe was buried in a hurry. You've probably heard this idea on many occasions. Well, the current view at Gobekli Tepe is, no, no, they just walked away and it all just fell apart.

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You know, I mean, yes... you know, some of the debris would have fallen on enclosures that were still exposed, of course. But they had a decommissioning process whereby at the end of the useful life of an enclosure, they would probably remove some of the stones that they believed that the spirit was still talking to them and they could take them away and maybe put them in another enclosure.

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They probably broke certain ones deliberately. Maybe they were troublesome spirits. But then they would deliberately fill them up and then build another one either next to it or above it if they covered it over with earth and rubble and debris.

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and at carahan for instance the pillar shrine was very deliberately buried with different layers of earth and stone including soil that was imported from somewhere else to create a layer of red earth so this is almost like a human burial

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You know, in other words, when we put people to rest, we put them into the ground, we give the prayers, the ceremonies, you know, the funeral service, we bury it up, we put up headstone, the rest of it. That's what we do in respect not only for the person's life. but also to allow them that transition into the next world, heaven or purgatory or whatever belief that you've got.

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And they were doing the same for these enclosures. The reason that they were doing that is because of the spirit. They believed that they were alive. They had what we would refer to as the genius loci. the spirit of the place. This is something that obviously comes from Greek tradition but clearly was universal. The idea that everywhere has presence.

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I mean haunted house for instance has a presence, identified as somebody that either died in that place or somebody that frequented it during their lifetime etc. It's the same thing in the past, there was a presence. the genius loci, the spirit of the place. And this would have to be respected. It would have to be buried properly.

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But we also know that these principles are very important to cultures past and present all over the world. You know, whether it be Native American, whether it be in Hindu tradition, whether it be amongst the shamans of Siberia and Mongolia, this belief in three different worlds is there and I think has been since the time of Tash Teppala and possibly much earlier still.

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But unfortunately, some of the archaeologists do not accept these ideas. So to them, oh, no, they just...

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chucked some soil and rubble on it and walked away no i'm sorry that did not happen all the people that overdose there are haunting the place and so well i've not even thought about that actually but okay what is an overdose i mean what would have been an overdose for these people and it's what you would refer to as a death trance i mean the term death trance is used for shamanism and most people assume that means that they just lie down and look like they're dead no no no no

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When shamans go into an altered state, they believe that there's a good chance that they won't come back, that they'll go into another world and they'll either be kept there for duties there. Or they may have a trouble, they may have to deal with some kind of trickster or something like this. And there's a chance that they won't come back.

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And if they don't come back, they are dead in the material world. And if they do come back, they'll come out of that death, literally, and then rejoin their normal life. So yes, of course. What we'd call an overdose today, particularly if it was fatal, is what shamans were doing. But for them, that would have just been a part of the practice itself.

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Yeah, well, I mean, obviously we sit here amongst some incredible vases from ancient Egypt, some of which go back to pre-dynastic times, in other words, prior to 3000 BC, maybe there 4000 BC, could be earlier. So we have to try and bridge that gap between the Tashtepela culture and the end of that, which is 8000 BC.

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and the rise of egypt now let's stick with conventional dates at the moment i know that obviously some of my colleagues will look towards the pyramids being built let's say 10 500 bc but i'm a little bit more conventional i believe in lots of weird stuff but i'm a little bit conventional when it comes to the building of the pyramids but you've got something going on at

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Giza, I think, as early as 10,000, 10,500 BC, but it's hidden beneath the structures that we've got at the moment. Yes, the Sphinx would have been there, but remember the Sphinx started off as a natural monument, what we call a simulacra or simulacrum. In other words, it was a body with this head, with much harder members, they referred to it, that would be sticking out of the ground.

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And it would have been venerated with spirit again, perhaps as a lion or some obviously have suggested a dog, probably a lion. And so that would have been venerated for many thousands of years. So the Sphinx would have been there in 10,500%. No problems at all. It would have been facing the east.

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It would have been faced probably towards its astronomical marker, the Leo as a lion or a panther probably it would have been at that time. So all of this is there. But was the same type of technology available at this time that was at Gobekli Tepe? I think the answer has to be yes. But how far developed it was, we don't know, because we talked about Helwan.

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Helwan is an incredibly important place. Even Klaus Schmidt himself, the finder of Gobekli Tepe, wrote a whole paper about linking what we now know as Tashtepela, the stone tools, as we've said earlier, with Helwan and thus Egypt as a whole. And Helwan is within sight of the Giza pyramids. So the technology of how to create these incredible vases, I think, did enter Egypt at a very early date.

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We don't know exactly when. And the reason we can say that is because, as you rightly said, If you go into Chandelier Museum today, you will see these beautiful platters, as they call them, some of which are about a foot and a half in diameter. I mean, they're not as perfect as what you see here, but they're coming along, you know, in what they've been able to achieve.

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And we know that these date to 9,000 to 9,500 BC. And they were using... you know, hard rocks to do them. Some of them are clearly formed of basalt. Some are what appear to be sandstones. Unfortunately, no paper has been written so far to go into exactly what types of mineral stone that they're actually using. It looks like limestone and basalt and granite.

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Yeah, limestone and basalt is the most obvious thing. But, you know, Hugh and I have looked at these in great detail. And it's clear that there's other types of stone involved here. Sure. Sure.

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Well, I think that you can see elements of it at all the different sites and maybe we'll come on to the individual elements. But I think the thing that we perhaps need to focus on right from the beginning is Pillar 43 at Quebecly Tepe. And this is something which is not just probably the most famous of all of the pillars from these sites.

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Yeah, and obviously we know that limestone can be of various different hardnesses as well as it, you know, eventually becomes something like alabaster through its calcite content. So, you know, quite clearly there are different variations of what...

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here whether it's limestone or basalt or whatever so yes the technology was there to create these huge platters you haven't got the vases as you've got here but we're talking about a technology which could easily be movable and could easily find its way into egypt now conventionally

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the oldest use of megalithic stone blocks to create monuments in Egypt to come from Helwan and date to the pre-dynastic period. That's a fact. I talk about this in one of my books. So we know that this technology of being able to cut and dredge and polish stone is there in Helwan, possibly as early as 3,000 to 4,000 BC.

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Well, Hellwound today is just... a big city basically just to the south of Cairo. But it was the original place of beginning of Egyptian culture. And it actually goes back to about 19,000 B.C., believe it or not. Highly sophisticated tools and culture existed here that continues on right the way down to about 3,000 to 4,000 B.C.,

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And what happens then is that the settlements begin to shift further and further north. There's a set of hills there called the Tura Hills where the hard white limestone that was used as the facing blocks for the pyramids came from. It seemed to be sacred. And this location was the original Heliopolis. Now Heliopolis was... becomes a city that's just in the northwestern part of Cairo.

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I mean, it becomes this huge center of learning, possibly even a university, a place with all these pillars that are said to be astronomically aligned and whatever. Today, unfortunately, it's just a part of northwestern Cairo. But the original Heliopolis was Helwan itself. And this is not speculation.

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I mean, even people like Zahir Was have talked about this in the books and papers that they've done. So what happened was that the Helwan culture gradually migrated elsewhere.

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northwards until it eventually came to a halt in the area of heliopolis um which was in the past known as anu or anna um and an basically means pillar uh and although you can associate this with the pillars that you know the the obelisks at um uh heliopolis which one of which is still there to this day This relates to the pillar of creation because Helwan was seen as the place of creation.

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It was seen as the place where the first land rose up out of the primeval chaos. And the reason we know that is because Helwan is on the same latitude as Memphis, the old city of Memphis, which was the capital of Egypt in the old kingdom times. And it's also on the same latitude as if you go into the western desert of Saqqara. And this was seen to be the demarcation between Upper and Lower Egypt.

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In other words, above it was Lower Egypt, above it was Upper Egypt, obviously Upper because it was the upper part of the Nile. And the important thing about that demarcation is that it was said that not only was this the place where Osiris was killed by his brother Set, but it was also the place of first creation. So it's on that line somewhere.

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But it has so much incredible imagery on it that it needs to be interpreted and can be interpreted. Now, obviously, this is it in front of us now. And you can see that you have two areas. You have the stem, which is obviously below the T-shaped head and the actual head itself is incredibly wide. And that's incredible. to a lot of the other T-pillars.

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And although some people might want to link it with Memphis, the original stories seem to be associated with Helwan, which was on the other side of the River Nile. That's where it all began. That's where the Tour of Hills are. That's where the original Anu was there. In fact, there are inscriptions within the Tora Hills that actually talk about this is the site of Anu.

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So we know that this was the original location. And of course, the significance of the limestone is it wasn't just used as facing blocks for pyramids, But it was also seen as the symbol of Lower Egypt, just in the same way that the red granite was seen as the symbol of Upper Egypt. And, of course, that red granite comes from, yeah, there you go. What have you got here?

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Yeah, you can see Hell Land there. um that's where it was originally you've also got the torah hills that's obviously that the the town of torah but between torah and helwan is those hills right the way along there um and so in other words the symbol for lower egypt was that hard white pure white limestone that come from the torah hills and obviously the red

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was the red granite that came from Ashwan in the south. So, you know, the red and the white is what you will see again and again at the different temples because it's a symbol. It's a symbol of balance of Upper and Lower Egypt.

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Well, that's a difficult one. I mean, the first thing that comes into my head is obviously the light bulbs inside the crypts at Dendera in Middle Egypt. You know, those very strange, you know, they look like oval jeans or eggplants on the end of these cords that seem to be like electric bulbs. Don't a lot of people see those as lotus flowers?

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A whole lot of people want to see those as light bulbs. And obviously, as we know, they've been recreated and shown that they can work. There you go. Now, the Egyptologists can interpret that in some form of symbolic imagery. But the one thing that it says to me is that there's something else going on here.

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You know, those snakes inside these light bulbs, if you like, are quite clearly symbols of electricity, in my opinion. And we certainly know that batteries were in use In Iraq, Baghdad, obviously, at least 2,000 years ago, and there wasn't just one, there were dozens of them, and these also have been shown to relate to electricity.

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So I think what we're looking at is a plasma technology that relates to thunderstorms, you know, natural forms of electricity, the understanding that plasma was a key. And this is something, of course, we're beginning to get onto relating to the source of the intelligence behind UFOs and UAP, whatever of that today. And this is something that I've also written about in my books.

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If this is important to UAP... to higher intelligences and whatever, the ancients knew about this. I have no doubt whatsoever.

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Well, I mean, the one thing I think we should definitely talk about is the Garden of Eden.

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So they want to put as much imagery on it as you can get. And clearly one of the main features of it is this huge vulture with this ball on it. Now, to me, this is what's known as a psychopomp. A psychopomp is an animal or a bird that accompanies the soul from this world into the next and clearly back again. And usually this was, as I say, a bird because birds are connected with the soul.

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Let's do that first, yeah. So the Garden of Eden, this is something that we know from the book of Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament, and it was a real land. There's no question about this because it's mentioned other times in the Old Testament as well, in the same vein as, you know, Samaria and whatever. So it existed somewhere, but where?

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Well, there are clues, and the main clue is that it said that from there, the four rivers of paradise take their rise. And two of those rivers can easily be identified as the Tigris and the Euphrates. And the third one is the Artsis River that flows from the Armenian highlands eastwards into the Caspian Sea. And the fourth one is the Greater Zarb River,

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which also rises in the Armenian highlands and flows southwards eventually through the Zagros Mountains and will eventually join the Tigris actually in Iraq. These are the four rivers of paradise and all of them take their rise in eastern Turkey, ancient Anatolia. So we know roughly where we're talking about. This is the land of Eden.

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And within this, there are certain traditions, local traditions, legends, folklore, etc., that expand on the story that we have in the Book of Genesis. And the most important one to me is from Chandler for itself. This is the ancient city that's only about 8 to 10 miles from Gobekli Tepe itself. This was anciently Edessa in the Bible. It's called Edessa, a very famous biblical city.

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But the oldest name of Shandlerfa was Adama. Adama means the place of Adam, as in Adam and Eve. And to this day, the people still tell the story of Adam and Eve in Shandlerfa, and it goes like this, that God... made the soul of Adam in heaven, placed him down on earth at Shalurtha and made his body out of the red earth that's there, still there to this day.

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And then obviously from the rib they created Eve according to the story of course. So they're in the Garden of Eden and then of course the serpent comes along. Now bear in mind that the serpent at this point has got arms and legs. Now that to me doesn't sound like a normal snake. It sounds like a person in the guise of a snake, maybe a shaman. And what does he do?

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He says, why don't you take the fruit of that tree over there and try that? This tree is one of two trees in the Garden of Eden. It's the tree of knowledge of good and evil, okay? So they take this fruit and they eat of it. Now, the first thing, and I'm sure everybody listening to this or watching this is going to say the same thing. You know, we're talking about some kind of rosy red apple.

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No, no, no, no, no. The word that's used in the original Hebrew, and please don't ask me to quote it, actually means seed or fruit and can actually mean the seed of wheat. And in various traditions, the actual fruit is wheat itself. So in other words, we're talking about the beginning of agriculture here. But anyway, so this is the story. Obviously, they then realize that they're naked.

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They've lost their innocence. And God throws them out of the garden, lest they eat of the other tree, the tree of life, and become immortal. So they get pushed out. And according to the local legend in Shanlurfa, they go eastwards onto the Haran Plain. And there they till the land. Again, that's talked about in the book of Genesis.

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But according to the story, Adam turns to Eve and says, what are we going to plant? And she says, well, what about this that I just happened to have brought out of the terrestrial paradise? And she opens her hand and it's a stalk of wheat. And he says, yeah, that's a great idea. So they plant the wheat, and for the first few years, there's very low yield.

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So they're about to sort of give up when a bull turns up, and they realize they can use this bull to plow the land. So the yield increases, and they all live happily after until eventually, obviously, they die, presumably. What the story says is that each year they kiss the bull on the head to give thanks for what the bull has given them. So what is this story? What is this bull?

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Well, the bull is the land itself. If you go to Eastern Anatolia, modern-day Turkey, and asked the people about, you know, the bull of the land. It is what is within the earth. It is the earth itself. And its horns hold up the heavens. And it said that when this bull moves, it creates thunderstorms, it creates earthquakes, it creates volcanoes, you know, when it's sort of shifting itself.

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And so really, it's a metaphor for the earth itself. So that's what they're kissing or celebrating or, you know, giving thanks to each year, like a harvest festival, basically. But then, of course, the question is, what is the snake?

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I mean, even in Christian tradition, the dove is a symbol of the soul. But in the Near East, in the past, it would have been the vulture. Why the vulture? Because the vulture was involved with the process of sky burial. And sky burials are where the human carcass would be placed together

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And I think that the snake here is a memory of the cosmic serpent that is the Milky Way that has been not just venerated by the Taj Tepela people at sites like Corahan Tepe, but was something that they were interacting with. And its head was the galactic bulge, in other words, the center of our own Milky Way galaxy.

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And they were achieving knowledge and wisdom from this, you know, because of the people getting possessed. They were coming up with information. And this was changing their society. And, of course, during this is when agriculture begins for the first time. And we know it begins in this very area because agriculture

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there are something like 50 to 60 different types of wheat that we use today for everything from, you know, beer, that's the first thing I think of, bread, cakes, pasta, et cetera, et cetera, that the DNA can be traced back to a wild form of wheat that grows to this day within sight of Gobekli Tepe. So we know that this is where

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the domestication of wheat began for the first time around 8,000 to 8,500 BC. In other words, exactly during the timeframe of Tashtepela. And the speculation is that it was created to feed the amount of people that were coming into these areas now to make wheat.

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these enclosures, but also the pilgrims that would turn up probably from all parts of Turkey, probably from the Levant, probably from the mountains, maybe even as far east as Iran, would be coming in to take part in the ceremonies that we've already talked about, whether they be to do with hallucinogens, healing, dream incubation, communication with the ancestors, stopping bad things happening in the sky.

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So they need it. Dream incubation? What is that? Well, dream incubation is something that we know took place from the cult of Asclepius. Asclepius was the son of Apollo. We've talked about Apollo being in the form of a snake. Well, of course, the main symbol of his son Asclepius is the snake. It's the symbol that we use to this day for the medical profession, a universal symbol.

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And people would go to what's known as Asclepians, which were obviously like the temple and the complex associated with Asclepius, which were often probably originally Apollo sites anyway, and they would be allotted a room. where they would, you know, spend the night literally and achieve dream incubation.

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In other words, you know, presumably Asclepius would come to them in the form of a snake generally and give them a dream or a vision about their future life. There we go. And so, yeah, there you go. I think there's a snake there. Yes, there you go, on the right. So this is something which again, I think was going on at Karahan Tepe and was also taking place at Gobekli Tepe as well.

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on a high spot, and the birds, the vultures would come down, they would pick the body clean, take away the smaller bones as well, and then the remaining bones would be collected up and probably put in a secondary burial or whatever they did with them back in Tashtabula days. And so clearly we're talking about some kind of journey here, but you've got other features as well.

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But as I said, in a much rarer form. So in other words, the snake of the Garden of Eden is a memory of that Milky Way serpent, the cosmic serpent itself and the communications with it. And I think the whole idea of the losing of innocence of Adam and Eve is a metaphor for the change of lifestyle from being a hunter-gatherer where you could quite literally do your own thing.

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You know, you've got your own little family, maybe a social group. You go off with the herds on a five-year journey or whatever and you come back to the same spot and then you go around again. Lovely lifestyle, really, other than the fact you could be eaten by beasts or whatever. But suddenly everything's changed.

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Now you have sedentary or urban environments where everybody has got to live together and do a job which you've got to do every day for the rest of your life probably. And you've probably got to get up at dawn and your sons, your daughters are going to do that and their daughters and sons. In other words, this is the loss of innocence. And you've got a very hard life. I mean...

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you know, milling and, you know, all of the things associated with creation of agriculture is really hard work. And there are sites that are associated with Tash Tepele like a Shikli Hoyak, which is on the southern edge of Cappadocia and dates to the same timeframe, probably about 8,000, 9,000 BC, where the bones of the people there clearly have had really hard lives, both men and women.

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So this is the new style of life. This is the loss of innocence, in my opinion, that became this metaphor, this abstract story of the loss of innocence of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

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Yes, there is. And I think that it's something that's coexisted with us since the beginning. My journey relating to this begins with a mountain called Gerizim, which is in the Palestinian West Bank. And it's very close to a place called the Kezem Cave. Kezem is an interesting word. It means magic or occult.

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And from about 400,000 years ago down to about 200,000 years ago was a very advanced human community. And I say human because the meager evidence that we've got of who was there suggests that they were our own ancestors basically. They weren't Neanderthals or Denisovans who I've also done a lot of work on.

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And these people were incredibly advanced in the stone tools, the type of way that they were storing food. They've been said to have created the earliest form of canned food. In other words, the preservation of... or food within wrapped environments where they put within ash and stuff like this so that they can keep them for, you know, many weeks, if not months.

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And the types of tools that they use are incredibly sophisticated. Plus, in the Kesem Cave, they had –

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what is referred to as the first school of rock literally um in other words people would be brought in there and they would learn the skills and there were different areas for different types of of of you know tool making etc but the reason why i'm telling you this is because there was a mountain on the horizon called garrison that they would go all the way to

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to get a particular type of flint to make their tools when there was loads of flint around that they could use anyway and yes they did use some of the local stuff but they would specifically go to this mountain so what was special about this mountain well in the in the old testament It says that this is the place of God. This is where God manifests.

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You've got a scorpion here. This was identified as the constellation of the zodiacal constellation of Scorpius as early as 2010.

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And according to various Hebrew myths and legends, the way that God manifested on Gerizim was as light, what is known as the Shekinah. And so I looked into this mountain.

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and i found that certainly for many hundreds of years and certainly arguably back to biblical times mysterious lights are associated with this location specifically with this location obviously in more modern terms they've been interpreted as uap or ufos

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but so i i went there um and i went to the kesem cave um and also i crossed over from israel into the palestinian west bank and whilst i was there um i climbed the mountain and on the top of it is a religious community called the samaritans now the samaritans

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are essentially the remnant of the original Israelites because what happened was that there was a schism between the Israelites and some of them broke away to become the Jewish peoples. The other ones remained in this area and they're known today as the Samaritans because the place is called the Samaritan Hills there.

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And I went up there and I wanted to speak to, you know, a personal authority and I ended up speaking to the high priest there. And I asked him about these mysterious lights. I said, are they still being seen today? He said, oh, yes, yeah, they're still being seen. I said, how are they interpreted? How do you interpret them?

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um the vulture itself is also a sky figure it's connected with the constellation of cygnus the celestial bird which is universally seen as a soul bird um i mean in europe for instance and siberia it's generally seen as a swan or a goose over here in north america it's generally associated with a hawk an eagle or a turkey vulture

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And he was speaking, I think he was speaking in Arabic to my interpreter and And the word, even the word he said, I recognize what it was. It said Malachin, Malachin, which means angels. So what he was saying is that these mysterious lights, UAP, that are frequently being seen on and around the mountain are interpreted as the messengers of God himself. And I just thought, this is incredible.

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You know, this is like something straight out of an Eric von Däniken, you know, ancient astronaut's book. You know, were UAPs, were flying saucers, you know, angels seen as... And yes, they were, because here is living evidence of that today. And what I theorised about this is that the people... in this Kazem Cave were going to this mountain because of the lights that were being seen there.

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And they were having their own personal experiences. They were probably going into alter states and they were connecting with an intelligence that they saw as connected both with the mountain

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and with the lights and then obviously in much later times during the bronze age during the writing of the old testament this site becomes the place of god itself and it said that once abraham left um shanlurfa the ancient city of urfa or of the chaldees as it was known

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He travelled south and the first place that he goes to to set up an altar is Mount Gerizim because beneath it was an ancient city called Shechem. It's modern Nablus in the West Bank. And that God appears to Abraham here and says, you know, this is where you've got to set up, create the first altar.

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This is where your descendants, you know, Isaac, Jacob, all the rest of it will inherit the earth, etc., etc., So the Israelites set up there right at the base of Mount Gerizim. And coming forward in time to the time of Moses and Joshua, after the Israelites have left Egypt, and have gone through the wilderness for 40 years.

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Obviously, eventually Moses dies before they cross the River Jordan, and the Israelites are now under the charge of Joshua, and they come to Mount Gerizim. That's the first place they go to. And here they set up the Ark of the Covenant on the top of the mountain itself, or in some accounts in the dip between Mount Gerizim and the mountain that faces it, which is Mount Ebal.

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And they carry out this massive, huge ceremony there. And I mean, if you see pictures of this, you can see the Ark of the Covenant glowing, you know, with this light emerging from it.

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so you've got this connection between the ark of the covenant god appearing as this light the shekinah in connection with this mountain in biblical tradition and of course then you look at the ark of the covenant itself well what is the ark of the covenant well This is, I think, part of the tradition, the same tradition to do with mountains associated with UAP and mysterious lights.

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Because what happens, of course, is Moses, they're going through the Sinai and they're looking up at this mountain, which we know today as Mount Sinai, although that wasn't the original Mount Sinai, let's point that out. That's on the other side of the River Jordan in what is today, you know, the country of Jordan. And they're looking up and you can see this light up there.

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So all the Israelites stay at the base. Moses goes to the top. Not only does God speak to him in this light and give him the Ten Commandments, But he also gives him instructions on how he can communicate directly with God by making this box. And it's got to be made this size. It's got to have linings of gold and show some wood and all the rest of it.

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and here at gobekli it is the vulture for the reasons that we've said and it seemed at some point this bird became connected with the idea of taking the soul away it's almost like when the birds had finished you know consuming the flesh when they flew off where did they go and what did they take with them clearly they were taking part of the body

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And you've got to have these cherubs on it and wallop here on the mercy seat. So they make, he goes down and they make the Ark of the Covenant.

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This is clearly a device to communicate with God in the form of a light phenomena, which the ancients referred to as the Shekinah, almost like the blinding light of God himself, which was one of the most common ways that God would appear to people as this blinding light. And so the Ark of the Covenant is eventually taken to Gerizim.

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And according to the Samaritans, to this day, the original Ark, because according to their story, a copy was made. And that was the one that eventually reached Jerusalem, actually remains on Mount Gerizim in a cave to this day. Still there? Yep, to this day.

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And they have this whole story about the end times and this prophet that will come and at this time this cave will be revealed and the ark will come out.

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Well, if you go to Tel Aviv, there is a highway that will take you eastwards right into the Samaritan or Samarian hills and the Mount Gerizim is just beyond that, basically. But it's within sight of the Kezem Cave, and therefore you could say it's within sight of the very outer reaches of Tel Aviv.

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Yeah, and they continue to do so to this day. But... Okay, now this isn't just a one-off, though. I mean, there are mountains all over the globe that produce mysterious light phenomena. And one of the reasons for this is because they are often on top of tectonic plates, obviously very major fault lines. And these, the pressures, the stresses and strains in the Earth...

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will cause a process which we know as ionization and that is the bending um of the minerals that will release electrons from their atoms to create two separate things which is positive ions which is the the main nucleus of the atom with you know the um some of the the the electrons still there and then all the rest of the electrons will become free and these will be known as negative ions.

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And this happens all the time anyway, but under certain circumstances, the duress of the Earth itself, it will produce these so-called ionospheric environments. And these will rise up out of the Earth and create literally electricity. And these become like tinderboxes for the creation of plasma. Plasma is the full state of matter. It is essentially that which fills 90% of the universe.

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What we see as material matter is something which is actually quite rare in the universe. Most of it is actually plasma. Plasma was the sole thing in the universe for about the first 380,000 years, something called gluon plasma. But once this started cooling down, once it started slowing down, it congealed together to create atomic matter. And that's where our physical universe comes from.

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of the individual because it was eaten it was now inside of the bird so i think at some point they started to consider that the birds were taking away the soul as they flew off and this then becomes part of a much more regular belief system um which you see at gobekli but let's look above this for the moment you have these weird chevrons

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But plasma is created to this day, not just by the geology of the Earth, but also, obviously, in the upper atmosphere, in the ionosphere. And these plasma, what they are, are essentially electrons yeah countless electrons that are contained within self-generated magnetic fields and they become so excited these electrons that they give out photons of light

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And once this light appears, bang, suddenly it's like a light bulb switching on and you have an object, a buoyant plasma or a plasma construct in front of you. And this can alone account for a large number of objects.

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uap or ufos no question about that at all and i mean this is something that has been talked about by um ufo researchers since the 1960s but because the prevalent idea was always that you were dealing with nuts and bolts spacecraft with biological entities inside coming from another planet the importance of plasma was ignored

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But last year, last February, an incredibly important paper was published. It was by a scientist named Ron Joseph with a whole international team of secondary authors. And in this, and this is a really thick paper, it basically gives this incredible theory that UAPs this plasma phenomena that exists up in the upper atmosphere and can come down into the lower atmosphere as well.

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And it's exactly what astronauts have been seeing since the Mercury missions onwards from the 1960s, the Apollo missions, many of the space shuttle missions, have all reported these objects that manifest in the presence of the spacecraft. And, of course, these have been dismissed by NASA and other scientists and institutions or whatever. But now...

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there is a thick paper that says, no, this is plasma objects. But most importantly, that they can act intelligently. They have sentience and they can act intelligent and that they may be what the paper refers to as a form of pre-life. That's the term that they actually use. In other words, it's not biological life, it's something else. Pre-life. Pre-life, that's the term that they use.

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Actually, I think it's even in the title of the actual paper. But this is nothing new. I mean, if you go back to the 1960s, There was a theoretical physicist by the name of David Bohm. He worked a lot with plasma and wrote a lot about it in his books.

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And he realised that it acted as if it was alive, as if it was almost like the plasma in a human body, which is obviously that which contains the blood cells. And so he concluded that plasma... was like a medium into which what he referred to as proto-intelligence could manifest and occupy

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going from the area of the head of the vulture across to this large wader bird, which I think is something like a flamingo, which even to this day are indigenous to Anatolia, modern day Turkey. Now to me, these chevrons, which are both pointing upwards and downwards, represent water, water flowing

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to give the impression that the plasma itself, which remember is just a whole load of electrons contained within magnetic fields, could exist like an environment that this form of life could exist. And he believed that this proto-intelligence was coming from a deeper level of existence. And his colleague Basil Hiley referred to this place outside of normal space-time as pre-space.

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Today the popular term that's used for it is the quantum field and that this is something that exists outside of the normal three dimensions of space and one dimension of time in which our own physical reality exists.

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exists within but that it was beyond that in higher level of existence almost certainly a higher dimensional realm but that under circumstances these intelligence could manifest into plasma and thus in many ways exist within our own environment and

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The important thing about this is that for decades, people who have tried to look at alternative ideas for UFOs, particularly at what you might call UFO hotspots or portal locations, or as the great UFO researcher John Keel referred to as window areas back in the 1960s,

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that when these locations have been examined, like for instance, like Hestalen in Norway, where mysterious lights, UAP, even structured craft have been seen and monitored by scientific teams since the early 1980s, that these areas are not just areas of very intense geology, you know, like fault lines and stuff like this, But the objects that are seen are clearly acting in intelligent fashion.

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In other words, that the objects themselves could be the intelligence, that they are sentient. And, I mean, I've written books on this, one of which was called Light Quest. It came out in 2012. And in this I talk about...

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dozens of different cases around the world where these lights these objects have been seen act intelligently and interact with you know humans basically and that when this happens is that these objects are not only just uh curious of of us but that if we get too close to them

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the effects on space-time and on our bodily and mental systems completely starts to shift and that we will enter into almost like a sort of alien environment, if you like, and that from these often you will get abduction experiences. In other words, you suddenly find yourself in an on-board environment

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environment you know with like you know what appeared to be biological entities there whether they be tall or small or grays or whatever and the the people will be you know the the experiences will be in this environment and then suddenly they're thrown out of it back into their normal environment and hours will be missing from their life in some cases days will be missing and

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underneath and between these series of squares, as I say, going from the head of the vulture to the neck of the flamingo. And to me, this represents some kind of bridge, a stepping stone-like bridge across water. And I think that this is...

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i realized a long time ago that this wasn't simply a case of people going walking inside a nuts and bolts spacecraft or being dragged aboard them that something more exotic was going on and the reason i started believing this was because i investigated the first ever ufo abduction in britain that involved a whole family of five They were in a car driving along a road on a very short journey.

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This was in Essex, the county that I live, just outside of London. And they were on a short journey, one that they did regularly, and they were driving along the road, and they saw this oval blue light cross in front of them, a UFO.

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um the the son who was about 10 or 11 was in the back seat he was resting his hand on the passenger seat and the driver's seat quite excited because they just seen a ufo the other two children were asleep in the car much younger were asleep and they suddenly they turned to ben the car headlights failed The car engines failed. They could no longer hear the tires rolling over the road itself.

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Right in front of them was this luminous bank of green mist. And they just plowed into it, and everything just stopped. A bank of green mist? Yeah, luminous green mist. So in other words, it was like this unorthodox mist, but it was glowing green. and everything just stopped. It was like their world had just stopped and they became very nauseous as this happened.

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Next thing they know, they're three quarters of a mile further on down the road and the father who's driving turns to everybody and says, is everybody okay? And they get the affirmative. But what's interesting is that the two children are still asleep in the back and the third one is still standing in exactly the same position. Anyway, this is in 1974.

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And the people just didn't say anything about this for three years. But they kept having these dreams about being in these bright rooms on an operating table, these strange beings doing things to them. And then finally, in 1977...

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that's a long time ago it seems like a past life ago but they contacted um a local ufo group via a newspaper and they put them on to me and i investigated the case and i got a top london hypnotist involved there are other people involved here you know the main magazine for ufos at the time was flying saucer review um the main

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organization in britain for investigating this you know the equivalent of mufon over here was before the british ufo research association everybody was involved this was a big big case and we got the hypnotist involved john day the the the man of the family he underwent the hypnosis and it revealed this on-board experience yeah quite classical really in a way where they saw these small beings but they're also these tall beings as well like the so-called nordics and whatever

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representative of the journey from the one world into the next probably into the sky world and if you want examples of this bridge you only have to look in norse mythology you have the rainbow bridge uh known as uh bifron there you have this bridge in um zoroastrian tradition which obviously comes from iran where it's known as the shinvat bridge And there are other traditions.

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And that was the story. And I wrote it all up. It was a two-part thing in Flying Saucer Review. But something wasn't right. Not that the experience was wrong because these people had lost three hours of their life. I forgot to mention that, right? When they got home, they realized that three hours were missing from their life.

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Now, there's no way that once they entered this mist, they could have just fallen asleep on the side of the road because this is a busy road. And if any car was in trouble on that road, somebody would have stopped and said, are you all right? It just would not have happened. There's no way.

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the whole family can be slumped over inside their car for three hours and then suddenly wake up and drive on. It's not going to happen. And John said to me, he said, it's strange, he said, even though I know this experience was real, he said, I have contradictory things that I can see in my head. I can see us in the car and I'm looking down on myself in the car as if I'm in an astral state.

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How's that happen? And then I was thinking about the fact that the children, the two children were still asleep in the back. The third one was still standing. And I thought, these people didn't go somewhere else for three hours. They lost three hours of both space and, well, three hours of time and obviously three quarters of a mile of space.

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In other words, they were taken out of normal space time and were in an environment outside of normal time where, yes, clearly something was going on, what we call it an abduction, but I call it a bubble universe, something that opened up relating to what they'd encountered, this object and this luminous green mist. And I would interpret all of this now as plasma phenomena.

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And there are various theoretical physicists that have written now that plasma – has a extra dimension of space so that makes four in total four dimensions of space and presumably one of time as well so in other words it acts as a step up or step down into a higher dimensional environment and these higher dimensional environments we know exist or certainly theoretically at least because of

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the what's known as m theory you lost me a little a little bit so so a fourth state of space dimension yeah yeah yeah i mean look we live in a world of three dimensions of space what does that actually mean it just means three dimensions of geometry you know forwards sideways and up and down that ultimately that that is the the three dimensions that we live in and everything

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a part of us a part of physical universe is that just simply that obviously the time is considered to be a fourth dimension an extra dimension but the idea that there may be higher dimensions is something that certainly has been talked about for the last couple of hundred years yeah higher dimensions or extra i mean extra is a better term as opposed to higher because higher than what ultimately you know um and

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Now we're looking at the ideas that there could be 11 dimensions that pre-existed everything. This is a part of something known as M-theory, which itself is a combination of five different string theories, five. And this was something that was created and written about for the first time in the mid-1990s by a theoretical physicist by the name of Ed Witten.

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And this is basically what the theory suggests, is that originally there was a 11-dimensional environment, which is referred to as the bulk environment. And into this started manifesting almost like a balloon or a bubble expanding outwards. A physical universe or brain is the term that's using it. And that's spelled B-R-A-N-E.

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In Islamic mysticism, you have a very similar bridge. And these bridge carry the souls from one world to the next. But then above it, you have the famous man bags, as obviously some of my colleagues have referred to them. And there are different ideas. Some say maybe they are stash bags for hallucinogens or whatever. But in my opinion, they're not at all.

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And this expands out and it has its own laws of physics, which for us is three dimensions of space and one of time. But the other brains can exist. In other words, other universes, and they could have maybe five dimensions of space or two dimensions of time. In other words, they can all be slightly different.

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but that they can all exist within this 11-dimensional environment of which the other dimensions are what they call compactified. In other words, they're all within us somewhere, but they're so small and so ineffectual that we are unaware of their existence under any normal conditions. But...

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The fact is that these other brains, B-R-A-N-E's, could be the size of our physical universe, but they could also be very, very small. And they can also overlay our own physical universe. And when this happens, the effects of their universe can interrupt and affect ours.

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Okay. Yes, my name is Andrew Collins. I am a science and history writer and the author of a large number of books that challenge the way we see the past. Everything from ancient Egypt to Atlantis to the origins of civilization. I've also done books on UFOs, plasma intelligences, crop circles.

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In other words, if you can imagine two of these separate universes overlapping with each other, whatever's going on in that one can start affecting ours and weird things will take place. And those weird things, I think, could...

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involve the appearance of other intelligences cryptids warps in space time and stuff like this but then eventually these other universes will separate from ours and everything will go back to normal now that might take a few seconds a few hours maybe a few days maybe a few weeks But the different types of universe can be of all different physicalities and they can be very small or very large.

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And I think that what happens is that when we encounter these plasma environments, what we're encountering with a bubble universe is a very small universe that comes into existence for a very short period of time and allows us to become a part of it outside of normal space time. And then...

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Because it's only temporary, it starts to break down and it throws us out again back into our normal environment. And I've looked at a whole number of UFO abduction cases where people have had onboard experiences and often they will disappear from a spot. after they've seen an entity or encountered an object, and they'll be missing completely for days.

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And people will have looked at that spot, searched that spot and found nothing at all. And then let's say nine days later, they're found at that exact spot doing what exactly they were doing at the moment that they disappeared. I mean, there's one account, for instance, from Britain, where a Boy Scout went away from his group, I think he was aged about 14, to actually have a cigarette.

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Obviously, he shouldn't be doing that, I know. But he took it out of a pack of five, because they used to have packs of five back in those days. This was in the 50s. And he lit up the cigarette, encountered this object and had this sense of the being approaching him. And according to later hypnosis, he was abducted aboard a spacecraft.

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But the fact is that he disappeared and there was a search for him right the way through until it got dark. And obviously they were in panic, they'd lost a child. And then eventually one of his other scouts noticed him at the exact spot where he'd been and he still had the cigarette on and his friend said, put that cigarette out.

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The rectangular parts of them are almost certainly the three worlds and. the actual handles which by the way are offset to the left. Now how many handbags have you seen where the handle is actually offset to the left because it would make them very awkward in carrying anything in them. They represent the roofs of these worlds. In other words, we ourselves have the vault of heaven above us.

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You know, the master's coming, you know, the scout master's coming, you know, put that out. Where have you been? And he looked in the pack and they still had another four. So it was the same cigarette that he'd lit hours and hours and hours before.

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He'd had this experience, was back at the same spot, a spot that had been searched thoroughly in between times, and suddenly he's back at the same spot. So something else is going on here. There's something that's far more exotic than simply saying that we're being dragged aboard nuts and bolts spacecraft. And...

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I've written about this in various books, but because of the work of Ron Joseph and an international team publishing this paper last year, and he actually published two, one in February, I think one came out, I think in October last year. Now we have this scientific basis for the idea that plasma could be the key to understanding UAP.

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And what has helped this was the whole drone New Jersey phenomena that began in mid-November last year, where suddenly people were seeing what they thought were drones in the skies. People were going outside. They were making videos of them. putting them up online becomes a viral phenomena.

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And not just that, but it forces the Pentagon to comment on it and say, look, we really don't know what's going on, but don't worry, there's not a threat to national security. And when you start looking at a lot of these videos that are being produced, they are clearly not drones.

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and they are being described as plasma orbs or plasmoids and suddenly this whole idea that uap could be plasma is becoming incredibly popular amongst you know literally pop culture And I love this because this is what some UFO researchers have been saying for decades. I mean, there was a guy, for instance, called Trevor James Constable. He wrote books in the 1960s and the 1970s.

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The most, not famous because it didn't really sell that well, but the most important book was called The Cosmic Pulse of Life. And he said exactly the same thing, that the UFOs were living beings in their own right. He called them sky critters.

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He believed that they lived up in the atmosphere and would come down and that for the most part, they were invisible to us because they were just outside of the visible spectrum. I mean, some plasma can be invisible, by the way. Some of it can be dense. It can be picked up on radar. It can also act, I think, as a portal, almost like a wormhole, connecting two places in space.

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In other words, it could be used as a portal through which perhaps true extraterrestrials or structured craft can actually manifest through and out of. In other words, so not only is it sentient and intelligent, but that it can actually act as a portal in its own right to somewhere else, literally. So Trevor James Constable wrote all about this, and what he tried to do was communicate with them

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by doing these ceremonies out in the Harvey Desert, where he'd quite literally stand on a hill and call them down and get photographs taken as he was doing it. And he got these incredible pictures of these objects coming down, you know, sequences where they'd actually come down. I mean, I wrote about them in a book called The Circle Makers I did back in 1992, which was mostly about crop circles.

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Well, back in the 1960s, Carl Sagan, the great science writer, cosmologist, astronomer, and presenter, of course, of the TV series, he wrote a paper in which he concluded that it was inevitable that we'd been visited on countless occasions by extraterrestrials. And this paper was buried at the time because he was just becoming very popular with NASA, who he would work with on various projects.

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And they basically said to him, look, you've got to lose this. If you're going to be working with us, this idea that we're being visited by extraterrestrials, you've got to put to one side. So unfortunately, this paper was buried, but it's now resurfaced and I've quoted it in books. So he says this, if he says that, I'm willing to accept it.

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It was considered that in all three of these worlds they had their own sky. You know, in other words, if you were in the lower world and you looked up, you wouldn't just see rock above you, you'd see a sky. I mean, the whole concept of the hollow earth, for instance, which is in many ways a modern day version of this. If you see images of the hollow earth, it's got its own sky.

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And I think that we have to say that, yes, we have been visited here by nuts and bolts spacecraft, by probably biological entities.

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Well, no, but you know what we're talking about. There's no nuts and bolts on these spacecraft. Hold on, hold on. Going back to the 1950s, the accounts of the flying saucers had things like levers and gadgets and gears and stuff like that inside them. Yeah. I mean, and these were supposed to be craft from Mars or Venus or Saturn.

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And people were, you know, the so-called contactees were supposedly riding inside of them. You know, obviously the most obvious being George Adamski. But there were many other contactees, not just in America, but in many other countries as well. And the objects that they were allegedly flying in were very crude, if you like.

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But of course, as the decades go on, they become more advanced, more ergonomic, you know, more futuristic. In the same way, obviously, that you have, let's say, Star Trek. In the 1960s, the original series, everything's, you know, sort of gears and clunky or whatever.

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But it's consciousness. Consciousness is the key here. You know, it's our interaction with this phenomena that creates what we see. You know... Jacques Vallée, for instance, the French UFO researcher, wrote some incredible books like, you know, Passport to Magonia.

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He recognized, probably as early as the 60s, that there was a relationship between the UFO encounters, UFO abductions that are being reported today, and the fairy encounters of medieval times, well, right the way up until literally the 19th century. you'd have exactly the same type of situation, but slightly different.

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And where people would be, let's say, walking across a field or a meadow, they would see this strange light, they would walk towards it, they would interact with it, they would see the fairies inside it, dancing away or maybe eating,

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and they'd be drawn into this, they would dance with the fairies, they may eat it, and either they would come out of this of their own accord or one of their mates that knew that they were missing would see them dancing and they would literally yank them out of this environment and say to them, where have you been?

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It's been one year or however long, and the person would say, well, I only thought I was dancing for an hour. It's the same type of phenomena. Yes, of course.

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This is a certain amount of exaggeration, imagination or whatever, but people in the past were having these encounters with these lights and seeing these fairies or elves or little people, whatever you want to call them, some of which look almost identical to the greys of today. And they were interpreting it in their own cultural folk manner.

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Well, that's what you're seeing here with the lower world. And you have the same thing with the sky world. It's like these people believe that they would be going to a sky world which would also have its own ceiling, its own vault, if you like. So that's what that represents. And by the side of each of these three man bags are animals. And they represent the aspect of these three worlds.

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And there are other cases, for instance, where people have encountered these objects that have come really close and they're looking at it and suddenly Jesus is standing in front of them with his arms out saying, come with me to heaven. And they're taken on rides to heaven and they see heaven and then suddenly put back at the same spot and the objects just disappearing away from them.

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It's clear that the experiences that we have are based on our own consciousness interaction with it. And that this is based on what we expect to happen. So back in the early 1950s, we're expecting to encounter flying saucers from Venus. So that's exactly what the phenomena will give us. Back in the past, it was encountering the fairies, you know, dancing with them, you know, eating with them.

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And obviously this is all... developing as the decades go on. But now, of course, we have this plasma thing and we're beginning to understand that something like quantum entanglement you know, the idea of particles being twinned, possibly, you know, no matter how far away they get, they still retain this link between them.

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This is happening all the time on a subatomic level with the creation of photons, for instance, that they're twinned. They have this relationship, this disconnection, and that it's not just happening automatically. on a subatomic level, but it's also happening on a macrocosmic level. In other words, that two things can resonate together because of what's known as quantum entanglement.

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Well, our whole system works through electricity, basically. Firing neurons, the brains, everything, and that's all surrounding electrons, basically. If these plasma environments are themselves made of electrons, that means that we can entangle, we can quantum entangle with them. They can become a part of us just in the same way that they can become a part of them, part of us, sort of thing.

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And in other words, there's this two-way communication going on with these intelligences, with these other consciousness, as soon as we connect with them. So that the closer we get, the more that environment becomes interactive until the point that we enter into these other environments, which, as I said, are referred to as bubble universes.

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Well, I mean, a lot of UFO researchers looking into this are talking in terms of plasma drives anyway. In other words, the plasma could be the means to surround a ship and allow it to get from one place to another quickly anyway. So, yes, absolutely, plasma is a key.

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Well, I mean, if you go somewhere like Hessdalen in Norway, not only do they see, you know, bobbing lights or lights of different shapes and sizes and colors, but what they've seen is coming from the lights, structured craft emerge out of them.

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right and i find that really really interesting and you'll often find this that a lot of ufo encounters begin when people see a light that then transforms into what appears to be a structured craft now i think that this relates to the fact that the plasma is itself a conduit a portal linking with somewhere else i'm not saying that therefore the physical craft is necessarily entering at one spot

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coming through the quantum field and then coming out of plasma at the other end. I think that what's happening is that the plasma, if it is intelligent, it has the ability to transform into physical matter itself. I mean, remember, that's exactly the same thing that happened at the beginning of our universe. our universe was filled with plasma. That was the only thing that was in our universe.

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On the left, you have this small wader bird. And this is a symbol of the sky world. In the middle one, you have a predator, almost certainly a panther or leopard, which is a symbol of the middle world. And on the right, you have what is a toad or a frog, which is a universal symbol of the underworld, of leaping between this world into the underworld.

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And that plasma then becomes atomic matter. So the idea that atomic matter can transform into plasma or plasma can become atomic matter is a matter of fact.

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Yeah. Yeah, there you go. That's plasma. Those are plasma constructs or buoyant plasma or plasmoids is the term that's used. And scientists are now concluding that these things are intelligent. In other words, they are a form of life that coexists with us.

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In a way, because the way I look at it is if you take a glove, okay? I know it sounds like a weird metaphor, but if you take a glove and you put it down, it is simply a piece of material. It might be made of leather, it might be made of wool or cotton, whatever it is. And it's nothing. You wouldn't say that that was alive. But if you got that glove and you wear it and you start –

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moving your hand around, the glove is animated and that is what the plasma is. It's the environment into which these intelligences come up into. And that is what David Bohm said in the 1960s, that the plasma is merely the environment that these intelligences inhabit.

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So when the plasma breaks down, which inevitably it will, then that intelligence will go back into the deeper existence that it came from in the first place. Now, David Bohm called this environment the implicate order. That's the term he used for it. And he believed that the implicate order is where essentially all life comes from, or the idea of life.

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So he was looking at the terms in terms of this same life that would inhabit plasma environments was behind the order of creation of life within the physical universe as well.

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And so all of these animals, I think, are probably chosen very specifically because they are able to leap from one world to the next. What I mean by that is that they're able to go from water to land to air. I mean, even the panthers and the leopards are famed for the way that they can jump from trees, you know, great distances.

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uh like what i mean i think the problem is is that there are blurred lines here now you know in other words you've got let's say structured craft and maybe you know biological entities and you now have this plasma phenomena which could be multi-dimensional in nature it responds to consciousness it responds to what we believe what we accept is meant to happen when an encounter takes place.

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And there's this blurred area now that it's almost like the plasma intelligences are taking advantage of the idea of structured craft. So they're building their own form of it

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to allow this interaction this this you know this this communion if you like as let's say whitley's driver would say with the actual intelligences they are deliberately creating environments that we would see in terms as the interior of a spacecraft for instance you know right and when you look at a

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the time that people are inside these craft are greatly at variance often from the time that they've actually been away from the, you know, the Travis Walton case, for instance, you know, very famous case from Arizona, as we know, you know, he's driving along with his other mates. They've just been logging, you know, in the forest and suddenly they see this object in the tree and,

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Travis Walton gets out and the term that's used is a beam comes out. But the actual real word was it was like a lightning bolt that came out and hits him and he falls back. But then, obviously, the guys in the truck go off. They obviously come back. They search for him. They can't find him. And he's away for days.

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And eventually, he just sort of comes to and makes a telephone call and he's picked up. But the actual account of Travis Walton... whilst he's supposedly on board, is completely at variance from the time of him being away. It's not days, it's just an hour. Certainly that's the way that his account gives.

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So, in other words, there's a very specific meaning behind the animals that are chosen to represent these worlds. But what about the water itself? What does that represent? Well, this is not a common ocean. And, I mean, these people would have been aware that beyond our continents, you know, was ocean. I don't think there's any problem with that.

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So it doesn't really relate to him being on board a craft, sleeping for being fed, doing this, doing that. I mean, it just all seems that there's something...

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and the term i use is more exotic going on here i think that our understanding of let's say the abduction experience has been inadequate to fully understand or to interpret what's going on now i am not denouncing any form of abduction i i mean i've i've interviewed many abductees many experiences and they're telling the truth so let's just you know make that clear

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But as to exactly what is happening, I think that there are a certain amount of blurred lines now as to whether this is something that is created by plasma intelligences for our necessity or whether we really are dealing with nuts and bolts spacecraft. And I say, yeah, clearly there's no nuts and bolts on them. But, you know, this was the term that is...

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In other words, a technologically created craft.

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I mean, you know, were they simply a creation of the environment in which they were in i mean i think that they were real intelligences but they could easily have been taken on forms that were acceptable to the circumstances in which this abduction was taking place and i'll tell you for why because these tall guys when they gave their names they were all greek gods

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And you think, why would aliens have names of Greek gods? I investigated another UFO abduction where a lady was taken aboard a craft from a front doorstep. And she suddenly found these entities. She was presented in front of these entities. And the one in the middle had horns and referred to himself under the name Osiris.

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You think, hold on, what's an alien doing inside a spacecraft with horns calling himself Osiris? You know, something... And she'd never heard of Osiris at all. And you think, what's going on here? Why... And to me...

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this is a product of necessity for the person to accept what's actually happening during these particular abduction experiences, which is why these odd names are given, why there's strange appearances. And, of course, we have this idea that most UFO entities look like Whitley Stryber's greys, basically. Yeah? But prior to 1987, when... Communion by Whitley Schreiber was published.

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This represents what you might refer to as the cosmic ocean. And it's out of this which the ancients believed everything emerged in the first place. I mean, you find this in ancient Egyptian tradition that there was originally this... this void, the primeval waters, and out of this the first land emerged at the beginning of time. And you find this in cosmological traditions all around the world.

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There were all sorts of, I mean, hundreds of different types of entities being encountered. In fact, very rarely did they ever look similar to each other, very rarely. But this was a point of demarcation of change because what you found is that most UFO encounters after that time involved greys. Now, I know one abductee who'd had an alleged abduction experience before this time.

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And I actually investigated it and wrote up the whole story. He, after Whitley Stryber's book came out, because of the popularity of Grey's, he actually changed Grey's. the image of the entities in his own drawings to look like Gray's with the almond eyes and all the rest of it. Whereas you look at the pictures before that, there was something completely different.

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So what do you think is happening? I think that we're dealing with multidimensional intelligences that can use plasma environments to connect with us. I think that... They've been with us since the beginning. I think that we connect with them through hallucinogenic experiences and have done since the beginning of humanity. And I'm talking probably going back to 1.75 million years ago.

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Why that date? Because that's essentially when we invented fire for the first time. Fire generally lit inside caves. And you'd be throwing all sorts of different plants and wood and whatever to keep this fire going. And it's no coincidence that exactly at this time is when the stone tools that we're creating, which up to this time are known as pebble tools.

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In other words, somebody's just gone down to the local stream, got a nice pebble, smacked it on the ground. It's pointed. We can use it. to the creation of the most beautiful hand axes known as the Acheulean hand axe. that are like multifaceted Swarovski crystals.

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So what suddenly happened, and in my opinion, is that what's being thrown on these early fires inside the caves are plants that are hallucinogens, and it wouldn't have taken them that long to work out that they're going into what we would call an altered state when a certain type of plant was being thrown onto the fire. And in other words, they could then replicate that themselves.

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And I think that what's happening is that this is allowing them communication with entities for the first time that are instructing them, literally giving them evidence of, not evidence, but giving them technology and ideas and innovations.

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And that this therefore allows our consciousness to connect with the locations where these intelligences are manifesting, like Mount Gerizim, you know, in the Palestinian West Bank. So that these people, I mean, presumably they couldn't see the lights from where they were.

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They would be drawn to these mountains like Mount Gerizim, where they would encounter these lights, probably have their own form of abduction experiences. I don't think that they would have been seeing alien greys. They probably were seeing,

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and animals and shamans that had passed over, maybe the spirits of the elephants that they'd killed during the hunt or something like this, but that these intelligences were speaking to them, almost like something out of, You know, Rajad Kipling's Jungle Book. You know, the idea of animals being able to speak to them and that they would be communicating with them.

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And these would be these intelligences, the very same intelligences. I think they're of a higher dimensional nature and they've been with us since the beginning.

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It's outside of normal space-time. And as we mentioned earlier,

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the whole concept of m theory and the 11 dimensions gives you these higher dimensional environments where these intelligences can exist outside of us being aware of them in any way and i'll give you a good example on carl sagan's uh program in the early 70s i can't remember what it's called now um he demonstrated how we as three-dimensional creatures

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would be able to connect with four-dimensional creatures. And he gave the example of a two-dimensional world, right, where you have two-dimensional beings. Now, two-dimensional just means that you can go forward or sideways. You can't go up. So in other words, everything is a flat. It's a flat land, yeah? So any entities are flat. Now, let's say you've got a bull, bull, B-A-L-L,

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It's important to this day, let's say in Hinduism. They have the idea of the cosmic ocean and the first land emerging out of that. And this is still taught to followers of Hinduism to this day. And I think that this is what you've got here. So in other words, this bridge is crossing the cosmic ocean itself. I mean, obviously, you know, we can't interpret every single thing.

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and put it through their world and what would they see all they would see is a circle gradually opening up until it had reached its maximum width and then as the ball passed through that circle would close again because a two-dimensional person a flatlander can never see a three-dimensional object because it's only two-dimensional and it's the same as us.

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We are three-dimensional creatures, so we will never properly be able to see or interpret a higher dimensional being that's in front of us. We need an interface and that we get through consciousness and quantum entanglement. And that's how these higher dimensional intelligences are able to connect with us and plasma environments is the easiest form for them to do this.

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I just wish I could see more of it.

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I mean, the trouble is you've got this long lead going down to it. You've got something covered up. I mean, people have said that the grass is too well cut. It's clearly done. I mean, look, there's a lot of criticism over this.

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I mean, the guy that supposedly was on the helicopter or certainly a similar one is claiming that it was a retrieved object. And yeah, I'd love for that to be the case. But I really need to see more evidence than that, I think.

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Yeah, I mean, look, it's encouraging, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, obviously with Roswell and other alleged crashes, it's so far back that it's very difficult to pick... the true facts from just the stories that have developed since 1947 um and so i don't think that roswell is good evidence of of a crash retrieval in my personal opinion i'd want to see more but i live in hope that

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Yeah, you know, they will wheel out at some point evidence of a crash. So I'd love that. Yeah.

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I've written about it in detail and... My honest opinion is I wish I had not written about it. And I'll tell you for why. It's because in there, it's in my book, Light Quest. It's the first couple of chapters of the book. that some people read that and me eventually ended up dismissing it and they just closed that book and put it down.

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Whereas the next chapter you're getting onto all this plasma stuff from a place called Martha in Texas where all these weird lights and objects are seen. So it's almost like suddenly you've thrown the baby out the bathwater, so to speak, by putting that at the beginning. And also people's belief in Roswell is so entrenched that I don't think that you could convince people otherwise of it existing.

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But having been to Roswell myself and the rest of it and done my own investigations there, I was not convinced by the end of it, I'll be honest.

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But what we can also say is that if you overlay the stars of 9600 BC, when this was created, it matches perfectly the heavens. The vulture, the large vulture on the head, is the constellation of Cygnus. The scorpion is definitely Scorpius. And once you've matched that together, what you see is that that ball on the vulture's wing represents a human soul, an abstract human soul,

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But then, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sorry to butt in, but yeah.

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Oh, no, no. Okay. This is a whole book in its own right, obviously. Firstly, historical crop circles are real, no problem at all. They were known in the past as devil circles. They were known in the past as fairy circles, even though that can be confused with another type of fairy circle that's made from a ring of... a fungi or whatever.

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Yeah, well, it's certainly at least the 16th century. No, sorry, 17th century. And there is the famous story of the mowing devil. And this is an account from, there you go, that was quick, is that this account was given and written up as a booklet in the 17th century in the county of Hertfordshire,

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of this farmer looking out of his window and seeing this light in the fields yeah um and basically he interpreted it as the the the presence of the devil But when he went out there the next day, there was a whole mowed area in a circle. When he said mowed, obviously that generally means cut down. So that's slightly different to modern crop circles, but very similar.

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But what's so interesting about this is that the farmer then became quite ill afterwards. and suffered with a sickness after actually having gone in to this mode circle. And that's so interesting because on so many occasions, people going into crop circles would have an adverse reaction. Sometimes it was good.

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Maybe they had like a healing effect or in others, they would come out feeling incredibly nauseous. Now, obviously, the sceptics just put that down to, oh, well, it's the crop spraying or something, chemicals in the land. But no, that seemed to be something that was occurring again and again, particularly in the early days of crop circles when I was investigating them in the early 1990s.

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But then, of course, you have to start looking at the much bigger crop formations that are beautiful, incredible plants. they are signs of transformation ultimately. And the problem here is that we know that so many of these were done by teams of people going out in the middle of the night and creating them, these incredible artists.

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I mean, I lived at a place called Avebury, which is right in the center of this huge great stone circle, the largest one. And I lived there for five years. I got to know all of the crop circle makers. And I was able to have detailed conversations. They respected me because they know I'd written books that, you know, were sympathetic to the fact that a lot had been done by human hands. And...

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Here's the thing. Firstly, there's no question that they were making them. You'd go into a pub, for instance, and you'd see three teams, as many as three teams, waiting to go out to do the crop circles, waiting for it to get dark enough for them all to go out. Also, they would show you what they were about to do.

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Well, the problem is with the term real is real is in the minds of the people that inspect them afterwards, whether they like them or not.

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Look, if you want to go into a huge great field in the middle of Canada, for instance, where they don't use these what they call tram lines to allow tractors access for spraying or whatever else it is. Yeah, I mean, those type of crop circles are probably real. Also, we know that there were real ones in New Zealand, for instance, going all the way back to the 1960s.

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And some of those would have rings around them or spurs coming off of them. I'm pretty certain these were genuine. Then, of course, you've got the whole idea of so-called saucer nests. These were the circular depressions that were left behind after people saw a UFO or flying saucer coming down and then depart off.

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And in New Zealand, I think it was in New Zealand, there was one of these saucer nests that was actually in swamps. where they had crocodiles or alligators or whatever they had. I mean, who's going to be doing that in the middle of a night when you've got crocodiles or alligators around you? It's not real. Clearly, it's genuine, okay?

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So we do have genuine crop circles, but I do believe, and I have to be honest with you, that... let's say 99% of the larger crop formations are done by human hands. But here's the interesting point, is that the guys that make them believe that they are guided to do what they do, they genuinely believe in space aliens or Mother Earth or whatever else that they consider could be guiding them,

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as a head, because these people believed that the soul... It's an orb. Yes, absolutely. And the Neolithic used this symbol to represent the soul. So the bird itself is protecting and guarding the soul. But that bull also corresponds perfectly to what's known as the Northern Celestial Pole, the turning points of the heavens itself. And...

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they have dreams where to put them, when they're actually creating them, they have all sorts of strange experiences, balls of light will come up to them, they'll see apparitions, they'll have time slips, they'll have healing, they'll feel the energies. So I think what we've got going on here is what I refer to as co-creation.

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In other words, there is an intelligence, a genuine intelligence behind the crop circle creation, but it needs us. It hasn't got any arms and legs, so it needs us to do its work on its behalf.

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The physical, yeah. But when I say 99%, I mean maybe 98%, I don't know. But I don't know. Look, what I'm trying to say is the vast majority of them

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are unquestionably man-made but here's the thing some of the most beautiful ones from the early days let's say 1990 1991 we still don't know who did them so that it's almost like a schrodinger's cat isn't it you know it's like you got is the cat dead or is he alive in the box it's like who created the crop circles well until you know exactly who made them

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It could be created by aliens or it could be created by humans. And in a way, it's better not to know. It's better just to go into them, experience them, have strange experiences and whatever. In other words, don't question it. I think that eventually I got to the point where I felt the best thing to do is just experience them for what they are and don't worry about it.

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Don't worry about who or what made them, just experience them.

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It's difficult because obviously... They are what I originally referred to as temporary temples. In other words, if you went into a stone circle, for instance, people would have strange experiences. They would feel energies, they would see apparitions, maybe lights or whatever. And when the crop circles appear, that's the same thing, but they only last for a matter of weeks.

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And then they're ploughed out and that's the end of them. But what I find interesting is that there was...

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one and the one to me that the whole booklet was written about it by a guy called john michelle and a co-author who's an earth mysteries researcher and writer great man visionary about one that appeared at a place called crooked crooked solely uh in wiltshire and the only reason we know about this is because somebody happened to be flying over it and they could see

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the combine harvesters coming towards it. And it was beautiful, it's intricate. And they managed to get some great photographs of it. And even as they were in the air, the harvesters were coming in and taking it out. So if this guy, this one guy had not taken those photographs, we would not know about this incredible formation