Andrew Marantz

Actually, Joe Rogan was talking to Theo Vaughn on his podcast and he said, he sort of crystallized this. He said, look, man, I didn't want to ask her about policy. I just wanted to get her in a room, get her talking for a couple hours. And I feel like if you start talking for that long, I'll just start to see if your mind is calculated or if you're just free.

And so that seems to be for people like Rogan and Theo Vaughn, and I think for a lot of their listeners and for a lot of potential voters, that seems to be like the main criterion. Are you calculated or are you just free?

And so that seems to be for people like Rogan and Theo Vaughn, and I think for a lot of their listeners and for a lot of potential voters, that seems to be like the main criterion. Are you calculated or are you just free?

And so that seems to be for people like Rogan and Theo Vaughn, and I think for a lot of their listeners and for a lot of potential voters, that seems to be like the main criterion. Are you calculated or are you just free?

Definitely. And it did not used to be the case. Liberals used to be the counterculture. They used to be the upstarts. And liberals now have become defenders of norms and institutions. But it's now the case in the data and in the perceptions as well that the base of the democratic vote is the educated vote.

Definitely. And it did not used to be the case. Liberals used to be the counterculture. They used to be the upstarts. And liberals now have become defenders of norms and institutions. But it's now the case in the data and in the perceptions as well that the base of the democratic vote is the educated vote.

Definitely. And it did not used to be the case. Liberals used to be the counterculture. They used to be the upstarts. And liberals now have become defenders of norms and institutions. But it's now the case in the data and in the perceptions as well that the base of the democratic vote is the educated vote.

And if you're a working class voter, you know, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, et cetera, you're starting to see in the numbers that people do not feel as at home in the democratic party. It's still not obviously across the board and the Democrats still win a majority of votes of people of color and women and all these things. But

And if you're a working class voter, you know, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, et cetera, you're starting to see in the numbers that people do not feel as at home in the democratic party. It's still not obviously across the board and the Democrats still win a majority of votes of people of color and women and all these things. But

And if you're a working class voter, you know, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, et cetera, you're starting to see in the numbers that people do not feel as at home in the democratic party. It's still not obviously across the board and the Democrats still win a majority of votes of people of color and women and all these things. But

It's clear that the Democrats have lost this connection to being unassailably the party of the working class. And... Sometimes that has to do with policy and raising the minimum wage. And sometimes it just has to do with a vibe of feeling snobby or feeling like you're always being second guessed or you're always being fact checked.

It's clear that the Democrats have lost this connection to being unassailably the party of the working class. And... Sometimes that has to do with policy and raising the minimum wage. And sometimes it just has to do with a vibe of feeling snobby or feeling like you're always being second guessed or you're always being fact checked.

It's clear that the Democrats have lost this connection to being unassailably the party of the working class. And... Sometimes that has to do with policy and raising the minimum wage. And sometimes it just has to do with a vibe of feeling snobby or feeling like you're always being second guessed or you're always being fact checked.

Or I've heard it said that people don't even necessarily vote for the politician they like. They vote for the politician who they think likes that likes them.

Or I've heard it said that people don't even necessarily vote for the politician they like. They vote for the politician who they think likes that likes them.

Or I've heard it said that people don't even necessarily vote for the politician they like. They vote for the politician who they think likes that likes them.

I guess my sort of like really rudimentary rubric on this would be it's not, you know, how many celebrities can you line up on your side? It has more to do with kind of. What does it signify? And to your point about identity, showing up at a UFC fight is not just a random room with a lot of people in it. It's about brutal combat. It's sending a very, very specific message.

I guess my sort of like really rudimentary rubric on this would be it's not, you know, how many celebrities can you line up on your side? It has more to do with kind of. What does it signify? And to your point about identity, showing up at a UFC fight is not just a random room with a lot of people in it. It's about brutal combat. It's sending a very, very specific message.

I guess my sort of like really rudimentary rubric on this would be it's not, you know, how many celebrities can you line up on your side? It has more to do with kind of. What does it signify? And to your point about identity, showing up at a UFC fight is not just a random room with a lot of people in it. It's about brutal combat. It's sending a very, very specific message.

Certainly there was more that the Harris campaign could have done. For example, she tried to get booked on Hot Ones, the show where you eat really spicy wings.