Andrew Ross Sorkin

But I think underneath that, yeah, the business class clearly is powering.

By the way, think about just the power of the crypto community.

In terms of even getting somebody like President Trump elected, frankly, or creating and changing some of the laws around things like crypto.

So, yeah, I think the business community has an extraordinary amount of influence today that to some degree is similar to what was going on in the 20s.

You know, I was surprised at just how frequently...

Some of these CEOs would just be literally sitting in the Oval Office on the phone with President Hoover or Roosevelt.

Roosevelt, too, by the way.

People think that Roosevelt was some kind of progressive who hated business.

He was in there with these guys all the time, too.

So not that different than some of the meetings that President Trump is having today.

Not on his bingo card.

I do not think that was on the Schwartzman bingo card.

So I wonder, like, with the President Trump dynamics here, like, what that does to, like, the power dynamics of Wall Street versus... Well, I think what's unique now is that this president sort of uses his power in a way that no president, I think, in modern history has.

And there has been less of a governor in terms of Senate or Congress, you know, to shift that balance.

And so...

It's very – interestingly, I talk to a lot of CEOs just in my day job.

That's what I do.

And I used to think that people of enormous means, I mean people of billionaires and whatnot, would have great independence and ability to push back, to say whatever they want, to feel free to do whatever they want.

That's what the – that's –

People talk about F you money.