Barbara McDonald

And some women had a lot to say about him. They had experiences where they woke up in the middle of the night and he was standing at the foot of their bed watching them sleep. Oh my gosh.

Absolutely, and a lot of reasons for police to look at him.

Two of the women that he had dated told me that after they had broken up, they had experiences where they woke up in the middle of the night, and he was standing at the foot of their bed watching them sleep.

What did they tell you?

He had broken into their house? Had broken into their homes. They had no idea how he got in. That's terrifying. Lord.

A lot of people, when that happened, thought, okay, well, this is the beginning, right?

He's picked up on a probation violation. He's not supposed to be driving. He's not supposed to be driving. He's on a suspended license. And I think a lot of people, when that happened, thought, okay, well, this is the beginning, right? This is what they're getting him on now. And then there's going to be these other charges.

Those girls matter. Were they out there to meet someone? Somebody was in contact with Libby, a fake persona. People wondered if there was some sort of a catfishing element.

Kelsey gets called in by law enforcement, and they give her a list of names, and among those names is this Anthony Schatz. And she says, oh, that sounds familiar to me.

Kelsey had the passwords and she was going through and looking to see if there were messages. And she saw this Anthony Schatz account. On Libby's? On Libby's social media. Wow. And that it had at least liked or commented on one of Libby's images. Kelsey even asked Schatz for help. So she reaches out and says, my sister's missing. Do you know anything about this? And the response is, no.

You know, I talked to her earlier. I'm sure she'll turn up. I'm sure it's fine. And then it didn't go anywhere.

I think a lot of people looking at this case always wondered if there was some sort of a catfishing element, why did the girls go out there that day? Were they out there to meet someone? And so I think that fit in with that theory of the case is that, oh, yes, they're catfished. That's how they got out there.

It was a complete shocker and was absolutely not the direction I thought they were going to go.

Hi, Keegan. How are you?

No history of violence. He seemed to be the type of guy who sat behind a computer and did his crimes that way. So are you aware that there's a bunch of news stories out there linking you to the Delphi murders?

Okay. And you have admitted that you created this fake profile, Anthony Schatz. Is that correct?

Why did you create that profile?

He did admit, though, to being involved in child pornography? Absolutely. You were committing crimes against children. Right. You were asking children to send you inappropriate images, correct?

He said, yes, the things that I'm accused of so far, the charges I have, I did that.

So Anthony Schatz was communicating with Libby. Was that you?

Was that you?

Are you aware whether you may have talked to Libby on the 13th?

And do you have any recollection of that? No. He said he had no plans to meet Libby or Abby or anyone else that day. Where were you on February 13th, 2017? I was at my house. In Peru, Indiana?

He says he'd never been to Delphi except for a high school football game and that he didn't know about the bridge or where it was. But with Kegan, it was always really hard to determine what was true and what wasn't. Did you have anything to do with the murders of Abby or Libby?

These men who practice Odinism were perhaps performing some sort of a ritualistic sacrifice in the woods. What did you make of that Odinism theory?

It was a complete shocker and was absolutely not the direction I thought they were going to go.

This theory that these men who practice Odinism, which is this Norse pagan religion, were perhaps performing some sort of a ritualistic sacrifice in the woods and decided to target these two girls

There are these sort of different groups in the area. There are these people who practice this Norse pagan religion.

People from Australia, Finland, I mean, just everywhere. It's been a fascination for so many people, I think, because of how unusual it is.

The prosecutor went with a little more of the emotion in the beginning to get the jury to really sense how horrific this thing was that happened to these two girls.

seen those it was awful there were some members of Abby's family who chose not to be in the room there were a few members of Libby's family that left as well I remember that one juror he could not he would lean forward and put his head in his hands he couldn't look Becky testified for the prosecution my goal was to tell the jury

With everything in this case, on the surface you hear, okay, there's a video of the suspect, and then you find out, okay, well, it's grainy, and it's from far away, and it's not real clear.

He's not admitting to anything at this point. No, he's insisting that he was out there on the trails to go for a walk, that he was looking at fish from the bridge, that he was looking at the stock ticker on his phone, said he never saw Abby or Libby. And with that, the defense rested.

I think a lot of people who were watching the trial thought, there's a possibility this is going to be a hung jury, that this could go either way.

It's a long time. There's a possibility this is going to be a hung jury.

I think a lot of people looking at this case always wondered if there was some sort of a catfishing element, why did the girls go out there that day?