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Ben Zweig

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

It is still very early.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

And, you know, you mentioned the title of that paper was Canaries in the Coal Mine, really just because, you know, we're looking at very early signals.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

But I think as more data comes out, I think what I would want to look at is, you know, what actually happens to adoption within firms.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

So are firms adopting this technology in their workflows?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

I think we'd be able to see that from...

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

you know, what people say on their resumes and profiles.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

Like, you know, what do they say in their bullet points, you know, like on their resume?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

What are the work activities that show up?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

Even in job postings, I think we'd be able to see it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

I think you could see it in qualifications and requirements.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

I think you could also see it in the sections on responsibilities.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

So if they say, you know, your job, you're being hired to do these, you know, six responsibilities and they outline, you know, responsibilities that are really about, you know, interacting with AI systems, we would reasonably conclude that this actually is a responsibility that they're giving to people in the actual job.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

And it actually is a core part of their workflow.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

So I think if we start seeing more of that, I would say we have a lot more evidence that there is some adoption going on, which, by the way, adoption doesn't necessarily mean that this will lead to labor substitution.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

Like you could have adoption of AI that augments certain workers and creates more employment opportunities.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

I think here's how I would kind of frame up this question.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

So we mentioned jobs are collections of tasks and activities.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

As some tasks get automated, let's say you have 20 different tasks or activities or responsibilities in your job.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

And let's say six of those get automated.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

Then you're left with 14.