Benjamin Todd

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4,140 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Sep 2023 last heard 28 May

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #244 – Benjamin Todd on how we’re updating our career advice for the strangest time in history · 26 May 2026 podcast

thousands of AIs and robots per person and so that can almost be like a full-time job is just like maybe instructing them or like checking what they're doing and like seeing that it's still like aligned with what we want.

And then yeah things like art and like maybe nannies is another example people use where you really want a human to do it.

I mean to be clear I actually think a lot of people won't bother with these jobs because in these scenarios they would have so much

like basic income or their investments would be worth so much that they would just live off those.

But it would mean like in principle, you could earn high wages if you wanted.

I really don't know which is more likely.

I think it's also very likely that there's also a good chance that it's just literally like, no, there's a finite amount of energy.

And if you give it to the AI economy, it can just produce way more than if you have humans in the loop.

And so just like...

basically all the important things become run by AI and robots, and human wages can drop, relatively speaking, an unlimited amount.

There's no real fundamental thing that would need to hold them up.

We need to be careful about different...

like parts of the timeline here, but I think in the short term, it does seem likely that many organizations become more top heavy where they have less people doing like more routine white collar work and maybe less junior workers.

But there's like a maybe slightly larger class of managers overseeing many, many AI agents.

And so, yeah, like the kind of managerial classes

get higher wages.

I mean, also grow because there could be more organizations.

So probably that's an inequality increasing force.

And this has also happened a lot in automation before.

So like in finance, in investing, like some firms in the past, they'd have hundreds of those guys with like the jackets, like shouting on the trading floor.

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