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Benjamin Todd

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80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

It's a cliche that you can't buy happiness, but at the same time, better pay is people's top priority when looking for new jobs.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

Moreover, when people are asked what would most improve the quality of their lives, the most common answer is more money.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

What's going on here?

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

Which side is right?

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

A lot of the research on this question is remarkably low quality, but several major studies in economics offer more clarity.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

We reviewed the best studies available, and the truth turns out to lie in the middle.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

Money does make you happy, but only a little.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

For instance, here are the findings from a huge survey in the United States in 2010.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

This is a graph with household income on the x-axis and life satisfaction from 1 to 10 on the y-axis.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

And there's a line labeled life satisfaction that begins by increasing quite rapidly, so that for every given increase in household income, there's quite a lot of life satisfaction increase.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

But by the end of the graph, it's flattened out, so that life satisfaction isn't increasing much as household income goes up.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

You can see that going from a pre-tax income of $40,000 to $80,000 was only associated with an increase in life satisfaction from about 6.5 to 7 out of 10.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

That's a lot of extra income for a small increase.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

This is hardly surprising.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

We all know people who've gone into high-earning jobs and ended up miserable.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

But this result may be too optimistic.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

If we look at day-to-day happiness, income seems even less important.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

Positive affect is whether people reported feeling happy yesterday.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

The left axis of the chart below shows the fraction of people who reported yes.

80,000 Hours Podcast
The 80,000 Hours Career Guide (2023)

This line goes flat around $50,000, showing that beyond this point, income had no relationship with day-to-day happiness in this survey.