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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1029: Beto O'Rourke: Never Lose Hope

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Ich habe gestern den Daily gelesen und sie interviewten einen anderen Farmer in Iowa, der absolut getötet wird. by these Trump tariffs and the reciprocal Chinese tariffs that I think are at 120% on what she's trying to sell. And it was unclear at the end of the interview whether she held Trump responsible. It kind of gets back to what you and I were talking about earlier. She wanted change.

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She wants action. You know, she says, I wish Trump would understand what's happening to me right now, but I know he's trying to do something. He's trying to change something. It's amazing the goodwill und der Glauben, die er erzeugt hat.

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Und vielleicht ist es das Kult der Persönlichkeit, aber es ist vielleicht auch nur eine Reflexion darauf, wie schlimm unsere Institutionen, unser Regierung, unser System, unsere Gesellschaft für so viele Leute sind, die so besorglich sind für Veränderung, dass sie sagen, weißt du was, ich nehme den Schlag auf die Zwiebeln. Vielleicht verliere ich den Farm. Ich schalte ein blindes Auge auf die

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Mass Deportations and the loss of due process and this absolute attack on the Constitution. Because this shit has been going on for decades and Democrats and Republicans both say they're going to do something and no one ever does. This fucker is doing something at least. I may not like every part of it, but he's doing it. So I think there's that dynamic at these town halls.

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You know, I hear from people, a veteran in Wichita Falls who stood up. und sagte, hey, Beto, erzähl mir über die 83.000 Menschen, die sie von der VAT zahlen werden, die meisten von denen, übrigens, selbst Veteranen sind. Wie wird das die Wartezeiten verbessern oder die Aufmerksamkeit oder die Service, die ich bekomme? Und ich weiß nicht, ob dieser Kerl ein Republikaner oder ein Demokrat war.

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Wir schreien nicht für die Städte. Eine andere Frau steht auf, fragt über Medicaid. Wir sind bereits das least insured state. in the country. You know, we lead the nation in childhood diabetes deaths. We're at the epicenter of this maternal mortality crisis. If they cut Medicaid further, what is going to happen and who is it going to hurt? So people see the train wreck playing out in real time.

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They're really concerned about it. They ask these questions. But Tim, they also ask a lot of questions about the Democratic Party. Where are the Democrats? Why aren't they fighting? What's going on here? You know, back when the CR, the government funding debate was taking place and almost every Democratic member of the House but one stood strong and together.

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Anyone who has anything they want to say is able to do that. And from those conversations, not only am I learning a lot about what's on the minds of people in Wichita Falls, where we just held one, or Rice University in Houston, where we just had one, but everyone else in the room is listening to their neighbors and folks in the community. And they may find common cause. They may

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And Chuck Schumer signaled that he and the Senate Democrats were going to do the same. Und dann hat er sich am Ende des Tages gegräbt und von jeder Druck, die er fühlte, gefeuert. Mann, das war wie ein Steak im Herzen von so vielen Leuten, die sich gerade schmerzen und von Trump schmerzen und wollen, dass jemand zurückkämpft.

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Und ich denke, es gibt eine echte Verzweiflung, nicht nur von 2024, sondern auch von dem, was in 2025 passiert oder nicht passiert. Und eine echte Leidenschaft für diejenigen, die aufstehen und den Kampf gegen Trump nehmen.

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Zwei Dinge. Du musst physisch gehen, wo die Leute sind. Ich habe Wichita Falls vorhin erwähnt. Es ist etwa eine Stunde und 45 Minuten Fahrt nach Nordwesten von Dallas. Nicht einfach zu erreichen, nicht besonders nah an einer großen Stadt.

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Und so, als wir da waren, habe ich mich mit dem Wichita-Kreis-Demokratischen Partei, dem Wichita-Kreis-Republikanischen Partei, dem Republikanischen Frauen-Studienclub, dem VFD, jedem getroffen. Die ISD-Booster-Club, das ist ein Townhall, es ist nicht partizan, ich werde keine politische Botschaft nach Hause bringen, ich will nur von allen hören, komm raus. Wir hatten 450 Leute, die aufstehen.

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understand from someone who's drawn a different conclusion on an issue that they care about, how they got there. There's something really powerful in that. And then we also, for our group Powered by People, which does voter registration and uses relational organizing to stay in touch with newly registered voters, we also recruit volunteers from those meetings.

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Das war für Wichita Falls, für jeden Ort, das war wirklich wichtig. Und Tim, viele dieser Leute sind Leute, die sonst nicht sind. In Texas, when I ran for governor in 22, 9 million voters. Registered, ready to go voters in Texas didn't cast a ballot. Abortion, you know, the most obscene, restrictive abortion law in the country.

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Uvalde, you know, 19 kids, two beautiful teachers shot down, murdered in that year. The most pressing, urgent issues were on the line in that election. Nine million people didn't show up. It's not that they're lazy. It's not that they don't care about those things. It's to your point that there hasn't been the work done to connect with them.

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Und um die Punkte zu verbinden, was ihnen in ihren Leben und den Leuten, die diese Kampagnen runten, und die Wahlsitzungen sind, die die Ergebnisse entscheiden. Also müssen wir wo sie sind, wie literally knocken auf ihre Türen, was wir tun. Wir zeigen auch, wenn ich dir sage, wir trainieren unsere Volunteure, wir trainieren sie und dann deployieren wir sie, wo es unregisterte

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likely Democrats, including on college campuses, engage with them in conversations, bring them on to the roles. And this is a really important step that I don't know that many others are doing. We then say after we register the person, hey, would you mind if I stayed in touch with you? And it's not going to come from the Democratic Party or even powered by people.

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It'll just be me, the guy that just registered you. We just met eyeball to eyeball. Can I have your cell phone number? I'm going to text you in 30 days and see if your voter registration card has come in the mail. und ich werde dein persönlicher Votingsherpa sein.

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Wenn du eine Frage hast über Voter-ID oder Voting-Lokation oder weil ich eine partizane Organisation bin, wenn du eine Frage hast über die Kandidaten und ihre Werte und ob sie mit dir verbunden sind, bin ich dein Kerl. Und so sind mehr als 1.300 Volunteure Vielen Dank. Du musst da sein.

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254 Städte. Es sind diese, es sind diese Volunteuren, die aufstehen, die sind. Fucking amazing. Full time jobs, you know, taking care of their kids, whatever they've got in their lives. They find the time to go out there in August when it's just sweltering in Houston, probably not unlike what it's like in New Orleans. And they're at the TSU campus or University of Houston campus.

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We say, hey, we've had a great conversation today and we learned a lot. If you want to now take action, which I believe is the antidote to despair and the key to victory and fundamental to building long-term political power, then sign up with us. We'll train you to become a volunteer deputy registrar to register voters.

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And they're out there talking to voters and registering them and staying in touch with them. It's it's really time consuming. It's not easy, but it is a really powerful connection that they make with these voters. So we have the numbers and we're continuing to grow them. And again, these town halls also are a recruiting field for bringing on new volunteers. We're not going to do it Online, right?

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You got to do it in person. I really think that's the secret. And I think everyone today is enamored of money and technology and those have a place, but they can't. They're just a poor substitute for the real thing. People with people.

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I think just the full frontal assault on the Constitution and the rule of law. all the kind of hand-wringing before he took office about whether he would precipitate a constitutional crisis, whether it would happen, what it would look like when it did. And now we are in it. And I think it's really hard to I don't know, Tim, if it seems like an abstraction to people.

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I don't know what folks at the Jazz Fest were saying about the constitutional crisis that we're in or, you know, if it's too distant from people's lives. I feel like that itself is kind of a patronizing dickish way to think about our fellow Americans. I fully have faith in them.

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that they get or soon will get exactly what is happening, that he's disregarding a co-equal branch of government, that it is only going to get worse. At some point there will be a clash between Trump and some majority party. on the United States Supreme Court. And so, you know, you may or one might feel powerless in that. You know, he's got a 6-3 majority there. He has both houses of Congress.

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He has a White House. He has the world's richest man. He has all of the social media platforms. Who the fuck am I to be able to do anything against that? And I just, I've got to invoke Lincoln again and that idea of public sentiment. You know, 1965, Also, was ist das? 60 Jahre her. Es ist nicht ein Wahljahr. Die Leute haben seit 75 Jahren an Votingrechten gearbeitet.

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We'll train you in our program and then we'll send you out there with other volunteers and you can do the work right now. No waiting for 2026 or, you know, 2028, wenn jemand das tatsächlich macht. Du kannst das jetzt tun. Also, ich denke, das ist essentiell die Formel, zumindest wie ich es verstehe, ist, du musst den Moment treffen, in dem Moment. Du musst da rauskommen, was auch immer es ist.

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1890 hatte der Kongress ein Votingrechtsgesetz davor. Und die Pro-Demokratie-Partei damals, die Republikaner, hat es verdammt. Sie hatten das Haus, sie hatten den Senat. Sie haben es in das Haus gepasst. Es ist auf den Hörnern eines Filibusters im Senat gestorben. Und der Präsident war die andere Zeit so, weißt du was? Ich habe mehr wichtige Kämpfe zu kämpfen. Verdammt das.

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Also für 75 Jahre, für 75 fucking Jahre, You disenfranchised and basically de-citizenized so many millions of our fellow Americans. In 1965, that march by John Lewis so galvanized the country. It was this catalytic shock to the conscience. And within eight days, LBJ ist able to bring the country together. And by that summer, he passes the Voting Rights Act.

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75 years in the making creates the first true multiracial democracy in American history. More recently, in 2018, you had family separation. It was this quote unquote zero tolerance policy by the first Trump administration. You make it 2000 miles to this point. Wir hatten dieses Event in Tornillo, Texas. Frau Präsidentin Veronica Escobar und ich haben das organisiert.

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Eine Tausend Leute kamen aus dem ganzen Land. Das war, glaube ich, am 18. Juni, Vater's Day 2018. Die nächste Woche versandte Trump die Familienverbrechungspolitik. Es war nicht nur wegen der Proteste in Torneo, sondern auch wegen der Proteste und anderen und der Einfluss auf die öffentliche Meinung und das Gefühl des Landes. Er konnte das einfach nicht unterhalten.

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So when I mention these town halls or these rallies, you know, I think some people dismiss them as virtue signaling or empty gestures or I'm glad that made you feel good, Beto, but what the fuck does that do? It actually does something. It begins to shape how other people see what is happening. And we don't have control of Fox News. We don't have control of the Manosphere.

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We don't have control of a lot of the levers of power, but we do have one another. And if we do everything we can with what we have, where we are, I want to talk about the immigration side of things and whether there's a catalytic relationship.

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Wenn es ein Hands-off-Rallye ist, Wenn es um die Schule geht und über die öffentlichen Kommentare spricht, wenn es um einen dieser Stadthallen geht oder um eine Stadthalle selbst zu halten, wenn es um all diese Dinge geht, dann tun wir es. Wir brauchen das gerade. Es gibt echte Macht, um zusammenzukommen. Und wie Lincoln gesagt hat, öffentliches Sentiment ist alles.

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I do. And it's all the more impressive because of the way that this has been set up. Should you stand with any of these purported gangbangers or terrorists, then the Trump administration, and Marco Rubio has done this, will say to the American public, well, whose side is Tim on?

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Is he on the side of the American families who have borne the brunt of these rapists and criminals and killers and animals? That's the language that they use. Or is he on your side? Und der Fakt, dass so viele Leute so weit über diesen falschen Rahmen gelaufen sind und gesagt haben, weißt du was, wer weiß, weil wir nicht wissen, weil du keine Informationen mit dem Publikum geteilt hast.

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Es gab keinen durchschnittlichen Prozess. Es gab keine konstitutionelle Befreiung, die jemandem ermöglicht, sich zu verteidigen und den Publikum zu ermöglichen, die Details des sogenannten Krimis zu verstehen. Wir wissen es einfach nicht. Und noch weiter.

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When you were able to bridge what is happening to that young man, or to Kilmar Abrego Garcia, or we just learned today about a young man named Christian, who was brought here as a child, and we now find, thanks to one of these great federal judges, that he's also been wrongfully deported.

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Wrongfully deported, and there was a standing court order that said explicitly, you cannot deport this guy, and the administration did it anyhow.

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Die sie sehen, was ist, du weißt, du tust das zu den wenigsten von uns und es gibt einen Grund, warum du die tattoosierte Quote-unquote Gangbanger oder es gibt einen Grund, warum du die Transperson oder es gibt einen Grund, warum du diesen vulnerablen oder marginalisierten Teil der Gesellschaft wählst, weil wer will, dass er neben ihnen steht, wer will, dass sie unpopular sind, wer will, dass er neben ihnen steht?

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But people are able to understand that this is the way this shit works. This is how authoritarians build power. They find that group on the margins and they exclude them and they make them the scapegoat. And then they take the next group and then they take the next group. And pretty soon they come for you.

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And what's amazing, you mentioned just like the bizarre blundering behavior of Donald Trump personally and the administration is that they say this shit out loud. I'm going to go after the homegrown ones next. What does that mean? It means you were born here. You are a US citizen under the Constitution and any interpretation of the law.

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And you, too, are vulnerable to deportation without due process to a hellhole prison, the largest on the planet. which you will go into and from which you will never, ever emerge. We have to make sure that every American understands that. Whether you voted for Trump or not, whether you would vote for him again, if he somehow were able to run again. You've got to know just what's on the line.

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And when you get people coming together in numbers larger and larger, they begin to influence and shape public sentiment on the things that we care most about. And I think that gives us ultimately the power to overcome these challenges. But at the same time, you've got to be patiently and persistently building that political power. Democrats, at least in Texas, have sucked at this forever.

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And I just, I know you may think I'm naive, Tim, but I just think if people in America know the truth, I believe in them, they're going to do the right thing. I mentioned every test we've come through before. Look, it took us a long fucking time. We came through. And so are we going to be the generation, 250 fucking years into this thing, that fucks it up and loses it forever?

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No, it just cannot be. And so, I mean, that's what you asked me earlier, like, do you ever just want to give up and move to Spain? I mean... Do I get down sometimes? Absolutely. But fuck no, man. I want to be in this fight with every fiber of my being. And I know that there are millions, tens of millions out there who feel the same way that I do. Let's just keep doing what we can.

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Let's find ways to come together in this fight and let's never lose hope because you lose hope. That's exactly what they want you to do. So I am encouraged that those federal judges And I do think the shaping of public sentiment is beginning to place a check on the out of control, unlawful Trump administration. But it's not enough. We've got to do more.

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Wir sind zu einem Film mit einem Freund gestern Abend gegangen. Ich habe Pink Floyd in Pompeji gesehen, was einfach unglaublich war. Ich bin kein großer Pink Floyd Fan. Ich kenne nicht ihren Katalog, aber die Musik war einfach unglaublich. Und es war dunkel. Und es war bedrohlich.

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Und mein Freund und ich sprachen über Musik, die wir mit Punkrock oder der schmerzhaften, schmutzigen Sachen wie den Smiths. Und ich sagte, weißt du was, ich habe eine wirklich schwierige Zeit mit schmerzhaften Musik, weil ich einfach, ich nehme einfach das Slide all the way through. Also ja, ich meine, wir alle handeln mit Dunkelheit. Wir alle sind enttäuscht.

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All of us have to find ways, though, to overcome it. For me, I don't listen to sad music so much. I get out there with my body. I hike, I run. I get out there and I'm with people. You know, when I do a town hall or when I spend all day at the University of Texas at El Paso Campus registering voters, and as you know, Tim, some people are like, hey, great, I'd love to get registered.

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And others are like, go fuck yourself. And some people just don't respond to the entreaty. Despite all that, and maybe because of all of that, and I'm sweating through my shirt because it's so damn hot here, I feel so good at the end of the day. I am so up. I'm so optimistic. I believe and I know that we can do this.

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If I stay at home or I'm in my office and I'm online too much and I'm reading the headlines, I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ, are we going to make it? Maybe not. So you've got to be with people. I know you're a fan, but Joe Strummer, I love that. I'm trying to break, you're unbreakable, Beto.

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You know, Colin Allred's running. Let's get excited. Wendy Davis is running. That's O'Rourke's running. That's great. But even better is doing the work year in, year out to register voters, stay in touch with them, make sure they turn out. Republicans have been excellent at this in Texas and in other parts of the country. And the outcomes show just how effective they've been.

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Yeah, I believe that Vergangenes Verhalten ist immer der beste Überzeuger der zukünftigen Leistung.

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Am Ende seines letzten Termins hat er alles getan, was er in seinem Machtvermögen tun konnte, um illegal in diesem Büro zu halten, trotz dessen, dass er bei den Wahlsitzungen verurteilt wurde, trotz dessen, dass sein Home-Security-Departement und alle, die sich über diese Wahl beobachtet haben, gesagt haben, dass es das cleanste, das sicherste, das fairste war. in American history.

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And not only did he incite violence, as we know from the reporting now, he also tried to get his generals and the United States military and any other source of power in this country to work at his behest to overturn that election and illegally restore him to power. Who the fuck thinks that he's not going to do the exact same thing at the end of this administration?

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You know, when the history books are written about us, if we fail this test, the kids in 2100 are just not going to believe their eyes. They're like, wait, hold on a second. So this guy during the campaign said he was going to be a dictator on day one. And those motherfuckers elected him anyhow. And then he told them that he was going to seek a third term. And people laughed it off.

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And they said, don't pay attention or that's a distraction. And then he fucking did it. What the fuck were they thinking? You know, this proud 250 year heritage. You guys blew it. So we absolutely have to. And I do take this threat very, very seriously. And to mount... The response in 2028 is to fail. It has to be mounted today. And it's why I've been talking about it. I know others are as well.

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And again, why I'm encouraged by what the federal courts are doing, not all of them, but many of them. Not only are the decisions important and not only have we been surprised in some cases by the Supreme Court's validation of those decisions, but back to public sentiment, it really begins to shape the story that people tell one another about what is happening in this country at this time.

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So it is a very, very real threat and we should take it seriously.

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So we've got to learn from that. So meet it in the moment, but also do the long-term work that we're going to need to win and hold political power over the long term.

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Ich denke, du hast es richtig gesagt. Ich meine, du schaust dich an, Und dann sind sie in Kraft. Und du siehst andere Tyranten. Sie haben die Macht gewählt und waren absolut zerstört und unkompetent, um ihr Land zu managen, lediglich den Toden durch die Zerstörung von Millionen in Russland, zum Beispiel, um nur einen zu benutzen.

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Also, du schreibst diese Clowns aus, aber es ist nichts falsch, mit dem Hinweis, wie dumm sie sind. und dumm und lachlich verlieren. Sie sind in allem, was sie tun wollen. Ich meine, der eine Signal-Gate-Skandal nach dem anderen von Pete Hegseth, der private Make-up-Raum, bevor er auf TV-Ausstellungen geht, Hier sind wir in Texas.

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Zwei Kinder sind von Mezelschmerzen gestorben und es ist seit zwei Jahrhunderten, seit ein Kind das Virus in Amerika verloren hat. Und die RFK? Was für ein verdammter Idiot. Eine gefährliche, tödliche Person. Du kannst über die Bühne gehen. Sean Duffy, Kristi Noem. Sie sind alle Clowns. Aber zu deinem anderen Punkt.

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Sie sind Clowns, die die Todesfälle und die echte Schmerzen unserer Vereinigten Amerikaner verursachen. Ich habe es zu Ihnen erwähnt, ich war am Reis am letzten Tag. Und einer der Schüler kam und sagte, Beto, so viele meiner Vereinigten Schüler haben ihre Visas verabschiedet. Ich weiß, dass Sie es hören, dass es in Columbia und diesen Ostküsten passiert. Es passiert hier in Texas.

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Wer wird für sie kämpfen? Eine junge Frau kam und sagte, hey, meine Eltern kamen hier undokumentiert. I don't know what's gonna happen to them. I don't know what's gonna happen to me. I don't know if we end up in that hell hole in El Salvador. What's gonna happen to me? Again, these town halls and that person being able to tell their story

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Nicht nur für mich, sondern für jede andere Person, insbesondere für diejenigen, wie du es beschrieben hast, die in diesem Land riesige Privilegien genießen. Und in der langen Reihe von Leuten, die getarget werden, getötet werden und, weißt du, schreckliche Dinge zu ihnen getan werden, sind sie wahrscheinlich die Letzte auf der Liste.

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Aber die Letzte auf der Liste ist, die Leute zu hören, die erst in der Reihe sind und die die Brunnen davon haben, gerade jetzt. Und ich denke, das bildet Solidarität. Und aus dieser Solidarität gibt es echte Kraft. Und das ist das, was wir in diesem Moment brauchen. Also wiederum, Real power in sharing these stories.

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And you asked about what will catalyze on immigration or any other number of issues. I think it is exactly it is exactly that. You know, John Lewis crossing the bridge. You know, why did people know about it? The TV cameras were there. They beamed it across the country and around the world. It created so much pressure on Johnson. He had no choice but to move forward. We've got to.

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And I know I know we haven't found it yet. And I can't tell you what it looks like. But we have got to find whatever version of that exists. And God bless the people who are out there doing it right now, whether that's Bernie Sanders or AOC or Tim Walz or anybody who's out busting their ass. And maybe a certain path or route doesn't bring us to where we want to be.

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But at least they have gone out there and tried to figure it out and brought people along, you know, during during the past. So. Ich denke, wir müssen alle nur das tun, was wir können. Das ist gerade die M.O.

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Yeah, fuck that guy.

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It's so disgusting to prey upon the families of autistic Americans and offer them and hold out this false hope, whether it's through the registry or I read some headline that he's committed to finding the source of autism, the cause of autism by the end of the year, you know, disregard all the thousands of studies and scientists and doctors and frankly, parents of autistic children who have devoted their lives to this, you know,

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Just get out of the way, RFK Junior is on top of this. How cruel and careless to these families who really are struggling, who really want answers and they deserve them, but they certainly don't deserve this. It is the greatest show of disrespect that I can imagine. And I understand and don't judge people who feel hope at what RFK Jr. is doing.

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But finally, we talked about institutions and government and things that were supposed to work for people that failed them. Maybe this guy is going to break through because nothing else has worked so far. So I'm going to give him every ounce of hope I have. And you just know that that is going to be crushed at the end of the day. It's what all of them are doing.

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Tariffs are going to bring back your jobs in Michigan or Indiana or Ohio. Sending people without due process to concentration camps in El Salvador is going to fix our immigration system. These are all... You know, presentations of false hope that people who are understandably desperate, given how badly this country has failed them, are holding on to right now.

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So we have to show them that not only does this stuff not work, but that there is something better on offer from those who believe in Constitution, Rule of Law and our democracy. Democrats and the largest possible coalition around them possible.

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Ja, und ich muss sagen, es hilft nicht, wenn die Demokraten oder diejenigen, die sich dieser Politik und der tiefen Schmerzen und Schmerzen, die er den Leuten um uns herum verursacht, auf dieses oder nicht klar darüber sind, dass diese Tarife schmerzen. Sie werden die amerikanische Wirtschaft zerstören. Die Preise, die Sie in 2024 interessiert haben, werden nur immer höher und höher werden.

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Das ist wirklich, wirklich schlecht. Ich denke, man muss das sagen. Und ich denke, man muss auch die Stimmen der Menschen erhöhen. who are being hurt by this in real time. You mentioned the woman at the tchotchke shop in New Orleans. I mean, what does she do next? She's going to go out of business. The soybean farmer in Iowa, what does she do next?

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She's going to lose that farm and is not going to be able to pass it on to her kids. You know, the folks who can't afford things that they used to be able to depend on, what are they going to do next? As we become more isolated economically, and through our alliances around the rest of the world, life in every single way is going to become more expensive.

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The way we engage with the rest of the world, whether militarily or diplomatically or economically, we're just going to bear a much heavier and more painful brunt because we don't have the rest of the world with us. The fact that Trump

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single-handedly has turned America's back on the planet, has switched sides in a war for democracy in Europe, openly inviting Putin to do exactly what he just did yesterday in the attack on Kyiv that belatedly Trump, who looks so fucking weak, Er sagt, du musst das stoppen, Wladimir. Oh, bitte. Just destroyed itself and the people that it happened. Now, that's one version of the story.

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If we don't get it right, we just can't allow it to happen. Deep, deep damage is being done every single day and it will continue until we stop it.

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As I mentioned earlier, I'm happiest when I'm holding these town halls, when I'm registering people to vote, when I'm gathering with our volunteers. So whatever form that takes, possibly as a candidate, potentially just continuing to run, not just continuing to run, it's just an amazing organization, running powered by people, helping, being useful in whatever way I can.

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You didn't have that for a minute? No, I didn't. And I don't think you do. And I listen to your show.

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I just think every other consideration has to fall by the wayside. Now, for all of us, your country, Ich nehme das als ein Vielleicht.

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You know what? I just put on Bob Dylan's New Morning last night and that got me to a really, really, really good place. That whole album, including the song New Morning or The Man in Me. Yeah, I love that one.

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When he's drifting on the rug, right?

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So, number one, the ACLU. We talked about kind of the bulwark that the federal courts have become for our country. The reason these cases are making it to these courts are the attorneys, many of them with the ACLU, who are bringing them to public attention and to trial. So the ACLU, which is operating in all 50 states, get behind them.

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Locally on the border, there's an organization called Las Américas. They are the ones who engage with many of these migrant families, mixed immigration status families, folks who live in our neighborhoods who are under attack by Trump right now. And again, if we fail to stand up for the least of us right now, they will come for the rest of us pretty soon. So Las Américas is a great organization.

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And the last one, if you're in the North Texas area, Come join us in Denton on Saturday. We'll be there at four at Anderson's Brewery. And all comers welcome. Republican, Democrat, Independent. And everyone gets a shot at the microphone. So come be part of it. It's really something special when you see people come together this way. And it'll give you some hope.

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So I hope to see people out this weekend.

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Right. We all have our moments for sure. Aber ich denke, wenn es um den Druck kommt, werden wir alle aufstehen. Wir stehen auf, um zu werden. Wir alle wissen, dass dies ein Moment der Wahrheit ist. Und wir können nicht gefunden werden, was wir wollen. Jede Generation vor uns. hat das irgendwie ausgelöst. Wir sind 249 Jahre in diesem Experiment. Und Mann, wir haben getestet.

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Von Anfang an, die Revolution und das Verbrechen des mächtigsten Empires auf der Welt an dem Zeitpunkt. Du gehst in die Geräte in Appomattox in 1865. Hunderttausende von Tausenden von Menschen haben sich über viele Jahre verliebt, um die Institution der Slaverie zu beenden und das Land wieder zusammenzubringen. Du hast Leute aus New Orleans und El Paso, die in den 2.

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Weltkrieg eingeladen sind und am Juni 1944 in Normandie landeten, um den Faschismus in der Hälfte der Welt zu kämpfen, um Demokratie hier zu verteidigen. 1964 und 1965, Zivilrechte und Votingrechte. Also kommt es jetzt zu uns.

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Und wir befinden uns mit den größten Tests, nicht unserer Generation oder unserer Zeit, aber wahrscheinlich jeder Zeit in dieser Landeshistorie, vielleicht zurück in die Civil War. Und wenn du es so anschaust, bist du so verdammt glücklich, gerade noch lebendig zu sein und die Chance zu kommen. Es gab sehr wenige präzise Generationen.

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Es gibt dieses tolle Gespräch, das LBJ in 1965 gibt, nachdem John Lewis fast tot wurde, über den Edmund Pettus-Bridge. Acht Tage später Johnson convenes this joint session of Congress and he says, as it was at Lexington and Concord, as it was at Appomattox, so it is today. These brave Americans willing to lay down their lives so that we can realize our promise to one another. That's us, man.

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And I'm not saying you or I are John Lewis.

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Du kannst die Opposition anschauen und dumm werden, weil sie so unkompetent ist. Sie sind so korrupt. Sie sind so gezwungen. Sie sind umgekehrt von diesen Quislings, die ihre separaten Teile und Ziele mit der Regierung machen, egal ob es Rechtsfirmen oder Universitäten oder die Powerbroker und die Billionäre sind.

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Aber wir müssen uns auch anschauen, und ich meine nicht nur die Demokraten, aber vor allem die Demokraten, die pro Demokratie, pro Gesetzesordnung, pro US-Konstitutionsseite. Was gab es für Verteidigte im Jahr 2024? Ich weiß, dass jede Wahl eine Wechselwahl ist, aber je nachdem, was die Leute wollten und für Wechselwahl schreien wollten, war es im Jahr 2024.

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And there was one side that offered change. But if you knew nothing else, and if you could be forgiven for being so busy because you're working so hard and you're raising your kids and you're taking care of your folks and you know, fuck politics, I just don't pay attention. All I know is that guy represents change. And those folks look like more of the same.

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And this country is not working for me right now. And I don't need any more of the same. I need some fucking change in my life. And so I think we have to look in the mirror and accept that Where we have failed and we failed. We had one job, one job in 2024 and we failed. And that's not on Donald Trump. It's not on the voters who voted for Donald Trump.

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Hier in El Paso. Es ist ein... Absolutely gorgeous day out there. And soon headed to Denton, Texas. We're doing these town halls all over the state of Texas. And we're going to be at this place called Anderson's. It's a brewery on Saturday. So I'm excited to be getting out there and to be with people right now.

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It's on those who are offering the alternative. And so we have to learn from that. Right. And we have to both stop him and then we have to overcome him and replace him in elections peacefully, democratically and nonviolently with the change that people are looking for in this country.

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Ich denke, die einzige Art, es zu finden, ist, mit Menschen zu sein. Als ich für den Kongress fuhr, war es ein langer Wettbewerb im Jahr 2012 gegen einen 8-Term-Inkumbent. Es war eine 5-Person-Primärin. Und ich habe es gewonnen, ohne einen Ausgang. Und ich habe es gewonnen, indem ich die Türen geschlagen habe.

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Und die Türen geschlagen, das sind nicht nur die Zahlen, es ist nicht nur der Eindruck, es ist nicht nur der Voter, der dich trifft und dein Name lernt. Es geht auch darum, von ihnen zu lernen, was für sie am wichtigsten ist. Kein Polster, kein Konsultantengruppe, kein Fokusgruppe hätte mir gesagt, was ein Veteran mir gesagt hätte.

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Ich habe ihn auf die Tür gesetzt und gesagt, ich kann nicht in die VA gehen. Sie haben mich nächstes Jahr zurückgesucht. Und das war im Januar 2012 für seine PTSD-Treatment. Dieser Kerl hat uns in Vietnam geholfen. Er kam zurück, wurde verletzt und verletzt. Er braucht jetzt Hilfe. Und wir waren absolut verfehlt an unserem Ende der Verteidigung. Nebenan eine ähnliche Geschichte.

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Nebenan ist eine Schwester, die mir erzählt hat, dass ihr Mann, der sein eigenes Leben verletzt hat, I made fixing the VA the number one issue. And not everyone in El Paso is a veteran. Not everyone in El Paso has a family member who's a veteran. But people care about veterans. I cared about veterans.

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And I think people more broadly understood, man, if this guy is going to fight this hard for these people who've gotten this fucked by their government, I know he's going to fight for me on the issue that I care about. Und wir haben das Rennen gewonnen. Als ich für den Stadtkanzler kam, war ich auf der Westseite und auf der ersten Tür.

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Ich habe meinen Pitch gegeben und die Frau sagt, das ist großartig, Beto, aber es gibt diesen Canyon hinter meinem Haus, den Wrestler Canyon. Sie wollen es entwickeln. Ich will es nicht entwickeln. Der zweite Haus sagt mir das gleiche. Der dritte Haus, ich knallte auf die Tür und sagte, hey, mein Name ist Beto O'Rourke und ich bin hier, um den Wrestler Canyon zu retten.

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You've got to listen to people. And that's why these town halls are so important.

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Okay, we'll have to talk about that. Let me finish this point, though. These town halls that we're holding... I just think are fundamental. You know, democracy, what the fuck does it mean? Democracy is people.

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And bringing people together in this deeply divided, isolated, polarized digital age, where we're just consumed by our devices and the feeds that we're getting on them, that is some profoundly powerful stuff. And the other power there is that Republican members of Congress right now Fear Donald Trump more than they fear anything else.

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You have to introduce the fear of their constituents and their reelection. And Democrats, Democrats fear being in front of people right now because to the question you just posed, what's the answer? What's the solution? I don't know what the fuck. How are we going to do this? People are going to show up. They're going to be mad. They're going to want me to fight back against Trump.

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I'm just one member of Congress. I don't want to face that. I think all the more reason that you go in front of your constituents, because no matter how brilliant you are, You don't have all the answers.

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And if you really believe in this democracy, if you really believe in people, you'll bring them together, you'll listen to them, you'll learn from them, and you will form common cause and go out and do the work and fight together. So I think... bringing people together, having these town halls is absolutely essential.

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And I think from that, Tim, we are going to learn and hear and even know the language, the exact words that people are feeling right now and need to be reflected back in the campaigns that are run in 26 and 28. You don't ever lose your core convictions, your purpose for being and wanting to serve. But that's part of it. The other part of it is just being there

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exquisitely attuned to the people that you want to represent and fight for. And there's no shortcut. You can't hire somebody. You can't spend enough money. You can't put enough time on social media to get there. You've got to be there physically with people and hear them out. And so that's why we're doing what we're doing.

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Not to be watching or waiting or hoping or praying, but to be out there with people. And, you know, there's certainly something cathartic and therapeutic about it, right? For everyone concerned, because I'll talk for 10 or 15 minutes and then the microphone goes around the room and anyone, you know, We don't screen for party affiliation. We don't check the questions ahead of time.

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Es erinnert mich an das Jahr 2019, als ich in Iowa war und viel Zeit mit Bäuerinnen und Bäckern und Leuten in der Agrargemeinschaft verbrachte. Ich besuchte diese eine Familienfarm und die beiden Brüder nahmen mich zu diesem riesigen roten Pile von Zwiebeln heraus.

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Und was mich im Hören zu ihnen und im Verständnis von der Schmerzen und der Ehrfurcht, die sie verursacht haben, was sie tun, und sie können es nicht, die ökonomische Verlust, die Threat zu ihrem Zukunft, die Möglichkeit, auf dieser Farm zu halten, war der Fakt, dass es nicht so aussah, als hätte Trump viel von einem politischen Schlag für die Schmerzen, die er ihnen gemacht hat.

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We have been soaked every single day since 2013. Texas, the worst voter ID law in the country. Texas closed 700 polling places. Where did they close them? In the fastest growing black and brown neighborhoods in the state of Texas. Texas. 13% rejection on mail-in ballots. You see that in banana republics. You do not see it in modern democracies, but you see it in Texas.

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So listen, this is the question of the hour, because if we do not save our democracy, if we do not get one back in the state of Texas, every other thing that we care about becomes impossible.