Billy Bush
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The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We have two first-time guests joining me today, but they happen to be two guys I know very well in my personal life and sort of professional life.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Well, look, unfortunately, it depends.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Yeah, I when I heard the crazy thing is, is I obviously heard it then. And the tape was 2005, 11 years before the election. And he was the biggest star on NBC. And I was with him all the time. But I have no recollection of him saying that it's always been. him talking about Nancy O'Dell, because she was my friend and my co-host. And that was like, I'm super uncomfortable.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And I'm like, oh, God, it's Nancy. Yikes, yikes, yikes. And I had to find my way out of that. I don't recall the grab thing at all. And the first time I ever like it resonated with me. Oh, wow. He said that was sitting in the president and general manager, his office at the Today Show about four weeks, four days before I got fired that Monday. Noah Oppenheim.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Yeah, I was in Noah Oppenheim's office. It may have been Tuesday, and I got canned at the end of the week. But he played it for me. I said, listen, I've never actually watched or heard this tape. I just knew it was there because I reported it on the day it happened 11 years ago. But let me hear it. And the most amazing thing is when that line came out, I was like, ooh. And Noah Oppenheim laughed.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
The general manager of the prison laughed. I would later be fired, I guess, for laughing or not intervening or I don't know what. But he did because it's one of those things where you don't know what to do in a moment like that. But laugh.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Well, the reason he laughed is because he's a sniveling little wiener who really has no fortitude. I've forgiven him. Strong character.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
I haven't forgiven him. Well, in my circumstance, I haven't.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Neither does Abigail Fine, and she's offside.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Yeah, go ahead. I'm going to tell you why. This is why I forgive him. Because I was his only hire. He was new on the job as the GM and president. And he brought me in to sort of change the nine o'clock hour. Later, you were brought in to change the nine o'clock hour. By him and Lack. Was me. And he sold it to Lack. Andy Lack, the chairman of NBC News at the time and Noah's boss.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And he sold this idea to him. They hired me. Noah didn't want his only hire to get whacked. But he was new. And Andy was telling him, we whack them. We leak it. We do it. And he's looking at me going, he gave me, in retrospect, a couple of clues where he was like, hey, you know, these things. I remember Noah saying, these things have a way of like maybe coming to light when they're that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Billy had his own very public exit from NBC and he is speaking out now as he is set to launch a new show, his own on YouTube and tune in called Hot Mics with Billy Bush. The perfect name. I love that. It launches this Monday and guess who's going to be his first guest? Yours truly. But for now, with the preview of that and much more, Billy is here with me.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Do you want to do something maybe about it? And I was just naive. I'm like, no, there's nothing you can do about that. It's a tape he didn't know he was on. No one will interview with me. No one will want to sit down with Billy Bush because he takes the preamble before the interview and weaponizes it. You can't do that to Donald Trump, to anyone, or else I am a ruined guy as a journalist.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
So they told him to do it. He did it. Most people would have done it. sadly, to save their own hide, what Noah did.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Well, he has no such excuses in my case. And I look, I know you're supposed to forgive just for the sake of forgiving. But I have seen zero evidence that they seek forgiveness. And, you know, like with Steve Bannon and Trump, for that matter, over time, I was able to really contextualize their behavior and see it very differently.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Those two, I mean, especially lack, especially like, but I just know these little tiny little men.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Yeah, no, I don't forgive Andy Leck. I said, here's another great, Noah's big of me, but what's huge of me is the original boss that I worked for for 15 years as my executive producer at Access Hollywood, who ultimately sent the tape to NBC News in order to get permission to use it to get it legally reviewed.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And of course, they just took it out of his hands at that point because they felt they had a weapon. That producer, 15 years together, I didn't speak to for two years. He is now the producer of Hot Mites with Billy Bush launching on Monday.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
I love that. So honestly, like we kicked it off with Brian Friedman, you know, who was opposing counsel to me. Like he took my deposition. We were in an adversarial position. I can definitely get past negative encounters with somebody. I can get past adversarial experiences with somebody, but I just felt like what they did at NBC was so disgusting and so ruthless that I don't forgive them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And by the way, I listened to your interview with Tucker and F Craig Melvin and F Al Roker. You're wrong. Craig Melvin's not a good guy. Screw him. You may have liked him. I can't stand that guy. He begged me to come on my show. I put him on my show. Begged me to help him on his loser MSNBC show, which I did. And then the first chance he had to stick the knife in and turn it, he ran to it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Like, yes, a chance to dump on the new white woman who's at 9 a.m. on the issue of race because Craig Melvin is a black man and piled on suggesting I had behaved racially.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
You know what? I'm going to review my forgiveness because I love you so much. And if I'm you, absolutely. I understand. I get it. I'm just in the same vein of Noah. In network news, there's a lot of sheep, right? And it's like, you know, he do it or fall out of my graces and don't rise up in the ranks. It's all stuff that goes into scripts for the morning show on Apple TV+. It's all true.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
It's so... competitive and scary and backstabby and unsupportive. And when I got to the Today Show, all I wanted was Matt Lauer to put his arm around me and say, welcome, kid. I've known you so long. I'm so glad you're here. Let's go have lunch. Be the big guy. I've done that with every new reporter that came in to access Hollywood.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
I wasn't afraid that they were gonna replace me or anything like that. I'm not saying he was afraid, but he definitely, soon as I got there, he changed and he did not. clear he did not want me there.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And neither did Al Roker, who is a slithering snake of a man.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Well, they told Al the nine o'clock hour is going to be led by Billy. He's going to welcome everybody in. He's going to do the thing. And truth be told, Noah told me, just make it to March and then we're going to find you your partner. You have to survive till March with Al. And maybe Al got wind of it. And I didn't survive another week. Whack.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
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The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
What a shock. Yeah, no, they saw you exposed and they plunged the knife in ruthlessly. It was a pattern that they would repeat. These, you know, so-called morning show hosts who are out there so cheery and so sweet to start your day with. And behind the scenes, it is anything but. What they care about is their money and their fame. Go ahead, Billy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
But it's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. Boy, they fork out a lot of money. Somehow they still have a lot of money. I don't know how long I I made it two months. So I never got to sniff the money. But, you know, Lauer went, you know, he's a twenty five million dollar a year guy, you know, doing morning television.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
It's I can point out the money that I got. at NBC pursuant to a contract that I negotiated. But let me tell you something. I was offered more at Fox. Like, I wasn't so grateful to NBC. NBC did shit for me. They didn't raise me. I raised myself over at Fox. And I could have gone to any single one of the networks. I didn't have to go to NBC. So I wasn't...
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
I wasn't beholden to them for some big deal. I had big deals being offered to me by all the networks. It was just, I made the colossal mistake of trusting the wrong group. And you know, when my show, which was a misfit, admittedly was struggling, they never got behind me. I mean, I will say Kathy Lee, who was the best thing at NBC, as far as I'm concerned, she pulled me aside.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
She goes, you know how long it took for our show to hit Kathy Lee and Hoda five years. She goes, go back and look at the ratings in year one and two and three. absolutely dreadful, terrible. And she said, it takes about five years for these shows to resonate. And sure enough, you know, I was like, I was one year into it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And they, I think they're, well, we'll just let the audience speculate about what the real reasons were for them tanking me.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
The great Larry King said to me, leave it on, they'll find it. I'll never forget that. With a good show, leave it on and they'll find it. But, you know, the reason why you can leave on Hoda and Kathie Lee is because... It doesn't cost anything. Everybody's there. The crew is hired. You know, they're they're they're slotted to be there for five hours. So they've got the hour.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
All the existing stuff is there. When you do something bold and, you know, your own studio, your own people, your own big budget, then they just get squeamish. But somehow they have a lot of money to buy out of things. I don't know.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
There's a ton of money. Not for long. Not for long. I mean, you know, the Today Show has got it's got half the ratings that it used to.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Congratulations to you and your YouTube is bigger than NBC News. I watched that. You, one woman alone, bigger than an entire news organization on YouTube. And for that, I applaud. That is amazing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Thank you. Thank you very much. On the subject of Andy Lack, why don't you forgive him?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Well, he never apologized to me. I called him once and I was like, just apologize to me, you lethal little snake. Noah did. Six months after I got fired, Noah Oppenheim, we're talking on the phone. He said, if you never forgive me, I understand. I'm so sorry. It wasn't supposed to go down like that. OK, I forgive you. We're imperfect people. We're
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
you know, good people are capable of doing bad things everywhere. I'm capable of doing bad things, you too, we're all, I mean, but if you own up, you apologize, you know, you're good by me, because I'm the most imperfect. Andy Lack, so dismissive, he talked to me for like seven seconds on the phone. Yeah, sorry, I can't help you, I don't care.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
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The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And literally, you know, I was speaking to the former president of MSNBC back in June, And told me during that time, he said, hey, what are you going to do about Billy Bush? We got to, you got to save Billy. He said, he's a good guy. He's not, he's not, he didn't do anything here. This isn't him. And he said, fuck Billy Bush.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And that was relayed to me by this, by the former president of MSNBC, like I didn't matter. And, you know, this is a man who saved Brian Williams, brought him back, gave him the 11th hour or whatever you call it. Did his best to save Matt till he couldn't. But F Billy Bush? Like, OK, well, F you too, buddy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Yeah, exactly right. So he wound up getting fired from NBC, too. Is it true he's at PBS now?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
That's what I heard. He's an executive producer at PBS and good for them. They've got one of the true derelicts of our of our time, a really bad, bad guy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
I totally agree. I think I like to say that I'm a nice person.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
I'm a nice person. I like people. I accept faults and all that. But he's a he's a bad guy, like a really bad guy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Yeah, I agree. And it's like, where's the responsibility that these executives get for taking top talent like you and not just like firing them, but absolutely trying to ruin them, absolutely trying to devastate them to the point where I heard you say to Tucker, you actually had suicidal ideations. It's serious what they do. It's serious.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
One moment, I mean, there was lots of emotional instability. I will say that it led me to this place called the Hoffman Process, which I did nine days, you know, no electronics in a cabin with, you know, people and it's like a trauma place. But it's the mental, emotional, psychological trauma of all of a sudden, because it happens, thanks to the internet, like this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
I literally, Friday morning, October 7, 2016, I did a double because Hoda Kotb loved working with me so much. She was like, I don't want any more guest hosts on Friday when Kathy's not here. I only want Billy. Just let him do two hours in a row. And they put me in man spanks, and I'm dancing in man spanks, and we're having laughs, and it's wonderful, ha, ha, ha, network, funny, whatever.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And I kind of thought the whole thing was behind us. I had dealt with Andy. I told him this is illegal. It's the wrong thing to do. I felt like, okay. And off we go. It was like this, you know, this beautiful moment. And then I'm on the plane flying home. And they're, Mr. Bush, please put your phone away. I'm like, I'm sorry. You know, we're all addicted. I'm like, I just want more text.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And I hit one more time. And then Mr. Bush, okay. And as I put it down, I see boom. Washington Post, access Hollywood bus tape. And I went, oh my God, they did it. They did it. They didn't do it on their own air. They didn't do it in their own organization. They did it through the Washington Post because the debate with Hillary is two days later.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And by hook or by crook, this is gonna be the first topic on that stage. And we gotta get it to someone because now forget about owning the property, forget about getting all the clicks and having the big story in our organization, winning the big story in the October surprise. It's more important that he loses the election. So let's get it to the Washington. Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
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The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
So can you, cause Doug and I have talked about this many times, but, and now obviously I'm, I'm, I'm great. I mean, I have nothing to complain about, but I do remember very acutely many nights lying in bed right after this happened with NBC and feeling so incredibly sad that my whole career was gone.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
It was evaporated in a day by those fuckers who took this internet, whatever, it would have been a one day Twitter story and rammed it up over and over. And even after it had died down, made a point of bringing it back up again. And I just remember being like, I can't believe this thing that was so important to me that I worked for so long to build is absolutely gone. And it took years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Yeah. You're that expendable. You, you realize I will say, Oh my God, when I was just starting as a little bushy tailed, you know, um, you know, celebrity kiss ass on red carpets in New York as the East Coast correspondent. I was Matt Lauer. I reached out to Matt to get some advice, you know, and like, kiss his ass too.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And went down to his office and he said to me, let me tell you something about this business. This is so prophetic. I can't believe I'm remembering. He said, everybody is replaceable. You have to remember everybody is replaceable. He said, someday you could replace me easily. And I said, ah, he's like, so just know that. And I was like, okay, think that way.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
In other words, prepare for these kinds of things. And I realized the man, the reason the man hung on for 20 years, he knew it. He knew it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Well, but that, but don't you think it's one thing to say that? And to know that. And it's quite another to say, okay, so they may replace me. I may not work out here. Whatever. I may not be a good fit. But it's a different thing altogether to say they will ruin me.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
They will do everything in their power, these people who I trusted, to absolutely ruin me so that I can't make another dollar in this industry.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And then after the fact... transplanting stories everywhere in every paper that reinforce the idea that you're a bad guy. And so they look good for having gotten rid of a bad apple. That's the thing that even heard afterwards. I'm like, what? They track, I'm seeing the New York Post track down like a girl I allegedly bullied in eighth grade or said something mean to. I'm not kidding.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And they're like, Billy Bush is just bad to women. He's just a bad guy to women. And I'm like, What? Every woman at the Today Show I had a terrific relationship with. There's two separate worlds, as you know, seven to nine and nine to 11. In the nine to 11 world, everything was wonderful, peachy, lovely. Seven to nine, get him out of here. He's not one of us. So that was the target for me. Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
I mean, I can relate fully to all of that too. I've never had more awkward moments where I felt less welcome than when they'd have me go over on the Today Show set and go outside.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Without without exception, the only person who showed any kindness, as I said, was Kathy Lee.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And without exception, everybody else was just and Hoda could freeze ice on their ass. By the way, anyone who's a female at the I think it's really the men that were really brutal. You may have a different experience as a female, but I found the women to be wonderful.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Well, I'll say this. There is one female associated with the show who pretended to be a friend of mine. And when the shit hit the fan, Doug actually reached out to this person's spouse because we knew them socially a bit and said, gee, it would be really nice if the woman could send out a tweet or something in support of Meg. And he said, oh, gee, you know, I don't think she's going to do that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
She doesn't want to go. OK, fine. That was just Doug being protect protective. And we later were told. I can't say it's a matter of fact, but we were told by a very well connected PR person that this spouse to whom Doug had reached out was busy pushing the story everywhere. Oh, no. So to Doug. Oh, it's so sad. This is such bullshit.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Oh, Megan. Well, you said so much there that got me just like he got all the juices flowing right there. First, Brian Friedman, that brilliant man, the guy that represented me when NBC was hacking my head off was his mentor, a lawyer by the name of Marshall Grossman, I think trained Brian Friedman. But I would say the The mentee certainly outshine. All is well here, Megan. I'm so happy to see you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
You know, she, she's not going to tweet, but this is total bullshit. And meanwhile, this person was doing his level best to push the story everywhere that I was allegedly this horrible racist person. I mean, this, this industry is disgusting and there are no more disgusting people than the hosts of those morning shows. They are exact. And the hypocrisy is what's so gross about it, Billy.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Not everyone. You find out O'Reilly is irascible behind the scenes. You're like, yeah, it makes sense. Right. These people, it was like, they, they want you to think they're just so sweet and peachy keen.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Well, it's a very competitive atmosphere. And I will, I maintain that in my experience, there are some, there are some very good people, uh, in it, but everyone knows, you know, and that's mostly women. And, um, But they know it's a super competitive environment. Sit down with Ashley Banfield sometime and ask her about her experiences.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
But in the end, if you can survive it long enough and you know, see what things, I'm not wired to play this game. I'm not wired to have a team of people who are angling to help me get someone else out of the way and all that. I don't think like that. I think like, hey, I'm so happy to be here. We're all a team.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I just and I guess in order to dominate and survive, you got to think like that, which I'm so glad I'm not there. I'm actually everything works out for the right reasons because I just I can't work like that. I feel sick.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So who who stuck by you, Billy? Like what, during all this?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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All my friends. You find out who your friends are. And boy, did I have some wonderful friends. You know, publicly, you know, people, you know, on the show there, they do one, you know, didn't get a lot of public support. And that's just the fact.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I was so mad and hurt over that because it's just a terrifying environment, especially that not, I think now it's changing a bit, but I understand that. Now that the public support wasn't so, why? But your friends, oh my God, your friends. And so many people in the industry, Suzanne Somers wrote me a wonderful letter. Julie Bowen wrote me, you know, Kate Walsh.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Julie Bowen, Cindy Crawford wrote me the loveliest letter. Dennis Quaid, he was so mad with his pen. I mean, he was like smudged all over the paper. But all, you know, in the business, we know who you are. You are, you know, we love you. You're so fun, this, that, that. Don't worry, you know. But in your personal life, oh my God, my friends were just amazing. Kept me going. Yeah. And family.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So did that retreat that you mentioned, the nine day thing without the social media, without the phone, did that help? Did that was that a game changer for you?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah, it just got me going. You know, I was like I was a danger to myself. I was just so I was just I will say this. I hope I'm not being irresponsible here, but the booze, you know, it served its purpose. I'm going to thank booze for a second. I'm glad we looked each other in the eye and said we're spending a little too much time together. But in the beginning, thank you, booze.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Thank you, my phone. Another terrible dopamine addiction. Thank you, phone, for being like, I need something to distract me. Go, what is Megyn Kelly doing on Twitter? You know, and then... the inside was hurting too much. So I went to this place and oddly enough, it was the day that I checked in was, was the first day Trump walked into the Oval Office. And I was like, oh, this is powerful irony.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Here we go. So it just was a massive, unbelievable shit show. But I'm going to tell this to every one of your listeners and viewers. We are all going through something terrible. Nobody goes unscathed. You don't escape it. It wasn't, a child of mine with a terrible illness. It wasn't something out.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Mine has unique circumstances, but I'm certainly not extraordinary in the fact that life is a shit sandwich, eat it or starve.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That's what my stepfather used to say. Life is a sandwich and every once in a while they serve it up to you and you have to take a big old piece and eat it. So it's just an unfortunate image, but not wrong.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I adore Brian. And I'll tell you something funny.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You know, I know that you feel as I do, which is in the moment, as awful as it is, would I change it? Would I go back and undo it if I could? I wouldn't. I would not.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That's interesting. Yes. I mean, I appreciate the wake up call. I don't know if it's God, if it's the plan. I believe it maybe is God saying, okay, Billy, you probably you haven't experienced much adversity in your life, right? I mean, I've become this little guy on TV interviewing celebrities and hopping to place to place and contract to contract and they move you to L.A.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I played pickleball with him several times out here. He's not bad, I have to say.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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and they pay for everything. And now you're on The Today Show. And it's like before it's too late, before you become an old man and you don't have a chance to become better. Ba-boom, I'm gonna hand you a massive explosion and you're gonna somehow recover from it and you're gonna get going and it's gonna be something that you will be grateful for because of who you've become. I believe in that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Later today, for the first time, Brian Friedman, my friend and longtime attorney, killer attorney, who got me through that NBC nightmare, will be here to talk about the bombshell lawsuits that everyone on social media and in the entertainment industry is talking about. This is the first time he will have sat down for a real interview going in-depth
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Is that right? Yes, this is one of his favorite things to do. So this is a funny story about Brian. I met him because he took my deposition and in a lawsuit, a dispute that I got into with my former agent. Okay. So I got into a dispute with my former agent, the details of which I'm not at liberty to disclose, whatever. It ended fine after all was said and done. But Brian took my deposition.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I believe that that has happened, but I do not appreciate the messenger, Andy Lack. Do not appreciate him.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah, you can be grateful for the net-net of the experience and not actually think the experience was enjoyable or feel good about the people who put you through it. But I definitely think that, you know, for me, I don't know, I think I rose to whatever, news fame, which isn't the same thing as real fame. quickly at Fox.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I think maybe I was drunk on my own wine and I think I was getting too big for my own bridges. I think, you know, when I got to NBC, we did, I look back now, we did all this me too coverage, not all of which was bad. Some of which were legit. I mean, Harvey Weinstein was a shit.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Um, but there were, you know, like, I just think there was overreach and I think I was too full of hubris and I think I needed to be checked. I, I definitely think I'm much more humble and cognizant of my own failings and, you know, biases now than I was prior to all this. And so better as a person and better as a journalist post that nonsense.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Well, you had to figure out what tools do you have to get to a better place to get out of this. You were handed a terrible situation. I mean, you know, Andy Lack made a move on you and tried to brand you a racist for asking the most simple question, and that is, when did this become punishable by death? Because all the late night comics that we watch today
The Megyn Kelly Show
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They used to perform in blackface on Regis. I mean, I remember one of them used to go over to Regis Philbin and do it on his show, the lovely Regis, the sweet Regis of all people. And Kimmel and The Man Show and all these things. And so the question you were asking was, when was the date that this, you weren't complimenting Diana Ross, you were denigrating her? When did that happen?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And that was enough for an evil man with a lot of power to try and kill you. And I remember saying, this is just an outrage. Brought up a little PTSD for me because I know all the players. But knowing you, I said, oh man, this is terrible. Terrible, terrible. But you survived. I'm looking you down.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Well, you made it back on TV. You did make it back into the cabal, right? Which is what you said you wanted. Um, well on extra, I'm covered.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I got to get back in there. Yeah.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Well, so why isn't that, that's, that's that, that's what you do. And that's the end of that. Why do you feel the need to launch this podcast and, or this YouTube show and, you know, talk about these issues now in a more full throated way?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Uh, Extras is part of the American fabric. It's fun. It's it's it's a it's a great show that people still watch in droves in their living room. And it's wonderful. I just have a lot to say. And I have a lot of deeper things I want to talk about. I'm an international studies and government major from in college and spent, you know,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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a year studying abroad, and my interest every morning, I read Puck in the Wall Street Journal and the Free Press, Barry Weiss, you shout out to Barry, and especially Nellie Bowles, who is hysterical on Friday mornings. But I'm fascinated in our politics and in our world, our culture, sports, The Giants are a disaster all the way up to the owner.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Everything is bubbling in me and I want to be able to talk about it without hitting my mark after 22 minutes. That's where you do that. But still have fun for 22 minutes doing, hello, Julia, you look unbelievable and gorgeous and da-da-da-da-da-da.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Well, that's a lane in which you are really exceptional. I mean, look, it was only a year at NBC, but I can definitely attest to the fact that those celebrity interviews are so much harder than people think. And your ability to make it look easy... is in itself like truly extraordinary.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That's a, that's a genuine gift you have, but you have all these other gifts that you aren't really allowed to show on a show like that because it's so tight and so controlled and scripted. So I think this is a great idea.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And he was such a bastard in this litigation. I was like, he's such an asshole. I hate this guy. He was opposing counsel, right? That's great. And then I had to sit for eight hours across from him. And I was like, oh my God, I'm, I'm in love. I love him. He was, once he actually got across from me, his questions were great. His inquiries were totally reasonable.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely. And I thought, boy, I should have done this earlier, but No, I think everything sort of worked. I'm like, eight years later, we're launching hot mics after the hot mic thing that, oh, are we crazy? Yeah, we're a little crazy. We're a little crazy. I haven't thought the whole thing out yet, but here's the thing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I don't know how you feel, but one thing that Mark Zuckerberg said is, don't wait for your eureka moment. Like this moment, like I've got my brilliant idea. Now I'm going to go be this giant success. No, just like if you have some weird ideas, like just get started, get going, figure it out. You had no idea where this thing would lead to, how big it would become, how successful it would become.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You just knew that you needed to get going and get back to being you. And you did. And the rest figured itself out. That's what I'm attempting. So, you know, help me.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Well, I think it'll be interesting to watch to see the difference between the you that launches next Monday and then the you that we see four years after. Because I would say in my own case, it took some getting used to to offer my opinion on so many things, to be so outspoken. on so many things because we're not trained to be like that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We're not trained to do that in straight news journalism, which is what you're coming from. It's entertainment journalism, but it's journalism. But then the more you do it, the more comfortable you feel. So is there any risk to you, because you still have the foot in the other camp, of these left-wing celebrities saying, I don't want anything to do with him. He's not woke. He's a bush.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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He doesn't hate Trump. It's a no.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Bush has never been more popular to these people now because the alternative. So it's actually come full circle. Like we all miss George W. Where's he? Oh, I love it. Oh God. But no, no. I think I've been at this long enough and I think you're not going to see, you know, if we were double boxed, like you and I are on YouTube right now, the two people would know each other. You know what I mean?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And people who know me and have been interviewed by me about their movies and about their lives and whatever, they'll see that guy. You're not going to see a totally unrecognizable person. Just like, oh, I didn't know he knew anything about the terrible things that are happening in the UK right now and, you know, who our players are in government and, you know, all the things that I can bring.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Well, look, I want to say that we've gotten to know each other pretty well since our dual traumas. And I have found you to be absolutely delightful. Just such a good, nice guy. But also, as I said, very insightful, very smart, very well-read, very thought out on so many issues that... just don't get to shine through given the nature of the way the 22 minutes are structured.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So I will be a listener. I will be a participant on episode one and I will be a listener regularly, Billy, and I'm thrilled you've chosen to do it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We wound up really bonding in this deposition. And then when the shit hit the fan with NBC and, He was brought into my life as an option. And when everybody else abandoned me, Brian, literally everybody had abandoned me. And Brian was on the phone and he said, just so you know, I don't give an F what anyone says about me. I've got you. And off we went to war.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Thank you so much, Megan. I have to tell you, I'm very just, you know this, I love you and I love your husband, Doug. What great hair, very tall, very handsome man. And I love you both. And I'm just so impressed by what you have done and you're just resilient and tough. And I look up to you for it because you went and did it. And now I'm going to do it just like you, big sis. Way to go.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I'll be cheering you on and helping you in any way I can, Billy. All the best to you. Don't forget, it's called Hot Mics with Billy Bush, and it's going to be on TuneIn and YouTube starting Monday. The human body is incredible, capable of repair and growth that amazes scientists, even in 2025. But as the years passed, natural healing and building processes slowed down.
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The Megyn Kelly Show
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The pair starred in the best-selling book-turned-film It Ends With Us, which is, in essence, about domestic violence. It premiered in August. Here's just a bit from the trailer.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Or the pattern breaks us. Following the success of this film, legal filings now pulling back the curtain on what's reported to be, let's just say a less than friendly atmosphere on set. Blake Lively has filed a lawsuit against her co-star and the director and producer of the film, Justin Baldoni and the production company, excuse me, behind the film, alleging sexual harassment and
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And then she claims an alleged smear campaign to destroy her reputation. She claims that alleged smear campaign was retaliation against her for raising complaints of sexual harassment in the first place.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Well, now Justin Baldoni has filed his own lawsuit, not against Blake Lively, not yet, but against the New York Times, which broke this story in late December for what he and his legal team says is the Times' totally irresponsible, defamatory reporting on Lively's claims, which the Times is accused of just taking and running with, notwithstanding substantial evidence, says Baldoni's lawyer.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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that they're full of hot air. Justin Baldoni's attorney is Brian Friedman. He's my own attorney too, and my friend. And he joins me now to discuss the legal drama and to get to the bottom of what's going on with this real life Hollywood drama. Brian, great to have you. How are you?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Oh, you're the best. I told the audience the story in the first hour when I had Billy Bush on about how you and I met when you were taking my deposition and how a beautiful friendship was born, which just never happens.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You had an angel looking out for you. I'll say that because there's nobody better than him. He is superb. Terrible pickleball player, but superb.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Totally. And it's funny because Brian and I grew very close. We have a beautiful friendship. But the only person in my house that Brian Friedman loves more than me is my husband, Doug, because these two were like thick as thieves for that whole NBC nightmare.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You're the best. You are the best. Okay, so that's the sweet side of Brian. It's there. You have to get to know him better. But he also knows how to fight. And he uses his powers for good against major media companies that crap all over their talent and think they can get away with it because they're major media companies and the talent doesn't usually have the resources to fight back.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So he's helped a bunch of people who have gotten completely screwed over. And Brian doesn't care about party. He doesn't care about... which company it is, he fights for the ostracized loner who's getting dumped on by these companies, which leads us to the Blake Lively situation. Now, she would say in this situation, she's the victim, Baldoni's the bad guy.
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And just to lay it out for the audience in a little bit more detail,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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What she's claiming is that even though she was a much bigger star than Justin Baldoni, who I never heard of before this lawsuit, she's the much bigger star, and she's married to an even bigger star than she is, Ryan Reynolds, that she came in and onto this project and started to get harassed and mistreated by Justin and some others, and that when she then demanded that all of her concerns be rectified,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So you're living the life now. Are you in L.A. right now?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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That he did it, but that he was basically lying in wait for when the film would get released in case she went public with what happened, that he and his PR team determined to bury her, to ruin her. And that this wave of bad press we did see about Blake Lively when the film came out this past summer was not organic. It was totally orchestrated by Justin and his team.
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I wouldn't say.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And they've gotten their hands on a bunch of texts, especially amongst the PR team, but a couple involving Justin, that seemed to suggest they were ready to, quote, destroy her and to ruin her reputation. But I'll say one thing. The evidence that then they actually did it is far less fruitful, right? The text about, like, we could, here's what we might do if we need to, those are everywhere.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I'm in Los Angeles now. OK, because so you where were you raised? I mean, let's just start with a little bit about you so that the audience has because you're a Bush. Most most famously, you're a Bush and it is that Bush family. So explain all this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The text proving they did, far less ubiquitous in this complaint. And what you've said now in your lawsuit against The Times is... don't even believe the texts that you see in the lively lawsuit because they're seriously misrepresented, omitting major facts that would give them an entirely different meaning, never mind greater context. And that's where I want to bring you in.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So tell us what we don't know about this fight between these two.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We're not all from Texas, Megan. I'm from Manhattan, Upper East Side, New York. Grew up born, you know, born at New York Hospital, Upper East Side, 86, between York and East End, and went to school in New York, then went off to boarding school with Tucker Carlson, who was several years ahead of me. And what an animal he was. He's toned it down in a huge way. We all had a lot of fun.
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So for those who are not in the Hollywood world, what is wrong with her taking over the film? She's a big star. Her name is what made it. It's what got eyeballs on it. How unusual is it, as you allege in your lawsuit, to have an actress come in and start editing scenes, taking over the final cut?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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excluding the director from it, the director and two editors on the film in exchanges that we have now that we'll be posting on megankelly.com are talking openly about how it's about to air. It's about to hit screens and they haven't seen it because she appears to have wrested control from them. So how unusual is that?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Here is some of that, which we have here exclusively. Justin Baldoni speaking to what he called his dream team, those who had been helping him edit the films and get it to finality, lamenting the fact that he was put in the basement on the premiere of his own movie, he says, per Blake's demands. Take a listen to that voice text in part.
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Then I went off to Colby College in Maine, Waterville, Maine, and then took a first job out of college in in Lake Winnipesaukee, New Hampshire, on the radio.
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So, Brian, and by the way, that'll be posted on Megyn Kelly dot com. But to those who say the reason she wanted him nowhere near her at the premiere is because he'd been sexually harassing her and then retaliating against her with a smear campaign in the press after, you know, after the harassment. You know, they say so good. Who could blame her for wanting him in the basement? What say you?
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Were you you knew like while in school that you wanted to go into media?
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As my dad said, Billy was on the Dean's other list. So the grades weren't exactly fantastic. So I knew that there was something I could do with The chutzpah and the energy I had, I just thought, boy, it's probably not a lawyer, doctor or financier or one of these things. And I found the college radio station and had a ball on that and said, I think this is it. And so I went that way. Yeah.
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All right, let's go through some of them because what she alleges in her complaint is that there was a twofold plan. This is Blake Lively's allegation that aimed to both A, conceal the pattern of harassment and other misconduct by Mr. Baldoni, his partner, Mr. Heath and their company Wayfarer and B, retaliate against Ms.
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Lively by battering her image, harming her businesses and causing her and her family severe emotional harm. To me as an attorney, I separate those out because to conceal the alleged pattern of harassment to which he's referring, another misconduct by Baldoni, Heath, and Wayfair, to me, Brian, you tell me, but I feel like that's That's fine. Let's assume he did do the harassment.
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I know you deny all that, but even if he did do the harassment, what's best for the film is definitely not to have that hitting just as the film hits the big screen. I don't think there's a cause of action for concealing bad news about the star of the film. It's point B that could potentially spell legal trouble.
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which is that they then allegedly retaliated against Blake Lively by orchestrating a smear campaign against her. And the reason they did it was because she raised sexual harassment complaints. Let's just focus on number two for now. Is it a problem in your mind? Like,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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If you've got somebody on the show, on the movie, who's alleged sexual harassment, and then when the movie hits, she directly or through her PR person leaks that, starts generating PR to make the movie look bad, to make the co-star look bad. I was a poor victim. He was a cad and leaks all this.
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is it necessarily retaliatory for the person being accused to say, A, no, I didn't, and B, this person should not be trusted. This person is not a good person, right? I just don't understand legally the difference because you're not allowed to retaliate, you know, to punish somebody in essence for report for accusing. in this way.
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But also, if it's false, does a man have the right to come out and say, don't believe her? This is a bad person, either directly or through PR people.
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You were smart. It was a smart move because you're smart. You're a very smart guy. But you recognize that you had a ton of personality and there was a there was a way to exploit that God given gift to do something really fun with your life.
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Well, it was in the 17 point memo that you referenced. She was raising some of these issues.
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Yeah, I appreciate my parents who grew up in a different era realizing that, too, and not shoving me into, you know, the finance world. My dad was a private asset manager and, you know, something safe. I said, you know, they were great and said, no, no, no. This is you. Go, go, go. Which was great.
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Well, and I see a lot of Justin saying, we're not planting these stories, right? Like, he's going to the PR team, seeing some of the bad PR against her, saying, this isn't us. And they're saying, no, this isn't us. There is an organic campaign unfolding against her. But there are very...
The Megyn Kelly Show
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troubling texts between this crisis PR person, Melissa Nathan, and the regular PR person about what they'd like to do to Blake. And that's what's taken up most of the headlines. I have absolutely no use for PR people. I really can't stand them. I know they have a job to do, but like, just my own experience has been so negative that it's hard to think of it.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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this is all defensible, but now that it's gone legal, you have to look at whether this is legal or actionable. Here's one of the, here's the thing I want to start with. All right, I'm going to give you your due and then we're going to get into what disturbed me about it. They definitely misrepresented some of the texts amongst these two gals.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Um, there is one in the Blake Lively lawsuit and it's quotes a daily mail, uh, headline, uh, from August of 24.
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And this is Blake's lawsuit in paragraph 23 on August 16th, miss Nathan circulated a daily mail article entitled is Blake lively set to be canceled string of hard to watch, hard to watch videos that have surfaced following tone deaf Q and a to promote it ends with us could tarnish her golden Hollywood image for good. to which Ms. Abel, she was the other PR person, responded, speaking to Ms.
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Nathan, wow, you really outdid yourself with this piece. And Ms. Nathan replied, that's why you hired me, right? I'm the best. Now this was in the New York Times. And when I read it, I was like, they've got them dead to rights. There's these two PR hacks sitting there saying like, we planted this Daily Mail piece saying she's gonna be canceled, she's a bad person, and they're celebrating it.
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And in your lawsuit against the New York Times, you offer up the rest of that text exchange. And I don't just mean what follows, like in a line or two. Right after, on the same line as the lines that are quoted in the lawsuit, in the complaint, and in the Times, there is, for example, the sarcasm emoji and, more importantly, an explicit denial by Melissa Nathan as she writes this.
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All right. So explain where you fall in the Bush family legacy.
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that it wasn't her. So what the full text exchange that you've offered now shows is Jen Abel saying to Melissa, wow, you really outdid yourself with this piece, with the sarcasm emoji, which is an upside down smiley face. They took out the sarcasm emoji in the New York Times. Then Melissa responds, that's why you hired me, right? I'm the best.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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They remove the next part where she says, heading to the airport and there's a drive through the jungle that there's going to be no reception around for 24 hours, joke, 45 minutes, and there's a response about that joke. And then Nathan says, same date, August 16th, Damn, this is unfair because it's also not me. Everything now looks like it's me. Maybe not to you.
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So the 41st president, George H.W. Bush, is my uncle. My dad was his younger brother by seven years. And so W43 would be my first cousin, of which there are like 16 of us. He's the oldest and I'm the youngest. So most people assume he's my uncle because he's 25 years older, but we are first cousins. Oh, wait. I just saw a great picture in here. Look at this great picture.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And Jen Abel responds, no, it totally does look like his side. But they are saying to one another, but it's not us. So, I mean, the full context and text, Brian, of the full exchange shows these two PR agents saying she's getting hit. you know, I know you think it's me. It's not me.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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OK, but I grant you all of that. And it seems very clear that Blake Lively's legal team made some very critical material omissions in their complaint. And so did the Times, which is not OK. But if you look at the complaint and again, this is just these just allegations. And now you get the chance to deny them or respond to them. it doesn't sound good.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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on the matter that he is handling now for actor and director Justin Baldoni, who is suing the New York Times and who is being sued by his co-star Blake Lively. They were together in a big hit movie about domestic violence this year. It's a fascinating story about Hollywood and the media. And I'm looking forward to having Brian on. You'll love him.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The, the PR people talking about, you know, Blake and Justin, you know, Justin looking for assurances. He wants to be, um, calm down that they have a plan to, to fight back. If you know, she does come out against him that he didn't, he didn't feel good about the document they sent over. Um, and he wants to feel better. Um, And then I'm just trying to pull up some of them.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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There's some like, here's Jen Abel saying to Melissa Nathan, I'm having reckless thoughts of wanting to plant pieces this week of how horrible Blake is to work with. Just to get ahead of it, she's putting us through hell. Melissa Nathan, same. Am I already off the record? Spoke to the editor of the Daily Mail because she's my friend. She's ready when we are, says Melissa Nathan.
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Jennifer Abel, I think we really need to put the social combat plan then into motion. Melissa Nathan, so do I. Let's see. That's that's one representative. I'll get to some others, but they seem pretty explicit in their discussion about how it's time. Let's get her.
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This is you'll love this. There I am in the middle of them in a sandwich.
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Oh, yeah. There they are. H.W. and W. with Billy Bush in the middle.
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Because it's one thing for the PR hacks to sit around saying, this is how we'll get her. You know, you've hired us to advise you. If we need to get her, if she unleashes the hounds against you, this is what we'll do. That is one thing. And it is quite another to prove then they actually did it. And I have to say, I say this not just because I'm your friend. I have no...
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Yeah.
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absolutely no feelings about this guy, Justin Baldoni. In fact, to be perfectly honest, I reviewed some of his social media and he seems kind of ridiculous with his toxic masculinity, lamentations and so on, but that's fine. That's me. So I'm not on his side.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So did you spend a lot of time when you were growing up in your formative years at the White House?
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Um, but my point is simply, I just don't see it in their incendiary complaint where they're trying to do their best to bash him and the PR team. I don't see that the second link loop closed of, and then here's where they did it. It's just all supposition. They don't have these great texts saying, look what I got placed in the New York Post.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Uh, no, but I did get, uh, one weekend, one time, uh, mom and dad were invited to Camp David by a senior. And, and so my brother and I went along and afterwards I had a lacrosse trip for my high school lacrosse team starting in Baltimore, like three days later. And I was like, mom, do you think I could just stay down there? And, and when HW heard that, he said, well, You stay with me.
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And the reporters at the Daily Mail, I saw the text between the Daily Mail and you and some others in there. And the Daily Mail reporter is saying that this Melissa Nathan, who was at the heart of it for Justin, she was the crisis PR person they brought in, did not, did not bash Blake Lively to him and was not doing that. And you've got Blake's person saying, I know it was Melissa.
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And you've got the Daily Mail saying, actually, no, Melissa's not doing it.
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She does deny that. I should point out to the audience that in Blake's complaint, they deny that they have unleashed any sort of campaign hurting or hitting Justin. They say that explicit that they haven't. I realize you contest that, but that's a point of dispute. I did find the Justin Baldoni text to which I was referring earlier. Let me just read it. It's him saying,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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let's see, expressing concerns that the PR people's written plan was insufficiently aggressive to quote, protect him. That's what Blake Lively's alleging. And they include a screen grab of a text in which he says to said team, morning, not in love with the document they sent, not sure I'm feeling the protection I felt on the call. And then it's this next text exchange that's made all the papers.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Um, in response, the two PR ladies start discussing that message from Justin, which was to one of them. So Jennifer Abel says to Melissa, Nathan, the crisis gal, um, okay, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to confidentially send you something. He's texting me and Jamie on the side, just to arm you before this call.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I think you guys need to be tough and show the strength of strength of what you guys can do in these scenarios. He wants to feel confident. like she can be buried. Then Melissa responds to Jennifer, of course, but you know, when we send over documents, we can't send over the work we would or could do because that could get us in a lot of trouble. We can't write it down to him.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We can't write, we will destroy her. We will go to this. We will do this. We will do that. We will do this. It has to look, he has to look at it as an information document for us to be armed with. That's all. Imagine if a document saying all the things that he wants ends up in the wrong hands. You know we can bury anyone, but I can't write that to him. I will. I'll be very tough.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And then, Brian, on top of that, they submit in the next paragraph, 15, a text from Justin to the PR team, Miss Abel, Jennifer Abel, with a screen grab of Blake Lively. I'm sorry, I forgot, Bieber, Hailey Bieber. And it's an article about Hailey Bieber allegedly bullying women. And he writes to the team, this is what we would need.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So their allegation is everybody's talking about how he needs to feel better. We will bury. We are totally capable of burying her. We're prepared to do that. And then you got him saying, here's an example of what I what I would need, you know, dismissing her as a bully.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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So, you know, you and I in another context might say all this is circumstantial evidence that supports the plan, though the execution of the plan, the actual articles we may not have in hand. But there's a supposition that they closed the deal.
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And then if you're down there, you got to stay down. My brother was like, you're not staying there without me. So he jumped on. We jumped on Marine One right out of Camp David, landing on the White House lawn. I'm 18. My brother's 21. We go up to the top floor of the White House. H.W. put a case of beer in the fridge. There was a pool table up there on the third floor. Beautiful views.
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He doesn't want to bury anyone. This goes back to my early on question, which is, is it retaliation if somebody who's accused you of sexual harassment or, you know, acts that she finds unacceptable on a set, if you deny them, but say, okay, I'll, I'll implement your reforms. And then she threw a PR person later comes out and starts hitting you publicly. in the press.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Is it retaliation as a legal matter for you directly or through your PR agents to say, she's a bully. This is a bad person. I'm not sure it is. If you are doing it to punish somebody for the sexual harassment allegations, that's one thing. But if you are in the position of denying it's been settled, the person's admitted that everything's been okay since then,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And then you have creative differences. She's trying to wrest control of the film and all that. And she's trying to undermine you publicly. And then you kind of say, you're kind of an asshole. I don't know that that's even legally retaliatory.
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We were drinking brews, playing pool and having a blast.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Wow. Little did you know how tame that was compared to how the future presidential son would be living while in the White House and around it. Hunter Biden, your little case of beer seems so innocent.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The timeline of discussions between Justin and the editors does show a guy who had ceded a lot to Blake Lively. He writes in February or March timeframe, 2024, I let her in what's best for the movie is that I suck it up and I let her in. Um, they point out in this text exchange, one of the editors, uh, that she's been getting what she wants for this entire movie.
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And then I returned as a young father with my three little daughters when W was president. We spent the night and went to the Easter egg roll. And I gave White House bathrobes to all the Jonas Brothers who were performing. I hope they didn't forget that.
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That's well, that's what, um, Justin responds. The editor says, I want Blake to feel like she's getting what she wants so we can move on from this need of hers. He responds, she's been getting what she wants the entire movie. Um, There's him acknowledging that Blake has approval over specific scenes.
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She redid the so-called nudity rider to get approval of what happens to the young version of her character, which isn't even played by Blake. Um, they lament in this text exchange, again, posted at megankelly.com that the editors and the director are not allowed to look at the actresses cut. Um, okay.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We'll continue taking the high road and the editors talking about how they have not seen the movie before it's about to be shown at book Bonanza, her cut, uh, Justin saying they were supposed to show ours. And then I was uninvited. The whole thing's pretty cruel and intense. Now, um, this is, you know, this is the other side of the story.
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I want the audience to understand this is not, it's, we're not taking a position here on who's right and who's wrong and what's out there, but all you've been hearing is what a cad this guy is. He's been canceled, dropped, dumped by his agent. Agents are disgusting. Um, at William Morris Endeavor.
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He had some award taken away from him, you know, that acknowledged his fight in the past for women, and he's doing a domestic violence movie. And every single newspaper has got him out there as like a Harvey Weinstein type, for God's sake. This is the other side of the story, and there's more to it.
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Are you going to sue Blake Lively too?
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Yeah. You gotta be really careful in, in, it's actually not the greatest when you get into the Hollywood, you know, world other than Jerry Weintraub, who was HW's great friend, you know, um, It's not maybe the greatest asset. I remember Rosie O'Donnell going after me and all the certain liberal people. I had to be myself. So my first contract with NBC when I first arrived, I made it up.
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Oh boy. For what?
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Oh, wow. He was involved in this to some extent. There was a meeting at their apartment at which you allege that there were some senior production people who witnessed him allegedly berate Justin Baldoni to the point where these third parties felt...
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upset that they didn't do more to stand up for justin that they thought ryan reynolds was so abusive i think he would say i was standing up for my wife who'd been sexually harassed by this guy and so on but what role did he have in all this well you know arguably you know for the first time at the premiere you find out that blake lively uh tells people that all of a sudden he wrote a scene in the movie
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Do you think that's what he did? We have a clip where his character Deadpool, which is very popular in this movie, acts more like the Justin Baldoni that I said turned me off with the... I'm against toxic masculinity. And there's a question about whether he was taking a shot at Justin. Here's the clip.
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Right. What do you make of that?
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Hmm. The, um, The press for Blake did get bad in the summer of 2024, this past summer. And the one clip that went everywhere involved a young reporter who was interviewing what I, my understanding is Blake, but you can't totally see it in this clip, was about eight months pregnant. And the reporter remarked on Blake's baby bump.
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And then, Blake, I'm going to play it, but she snaps back about the reporter's alleged baby bump. The reporter did not have a baby bump. She wasn't pregnant. And apparently it had a history of difficulty in getting pregnant, which is why generally you just stay far away for something like that in an exchange. But it went very, very viral.
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You could not mention that connection because I had to establish myself. So I made it so that they could never bring that up.
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And people were saying Blake Lively was inappropriate and a bully. And it wasn't the first time. And then we saw a bunch of videos. Here it is with reporter, that clip with reporter Kirstie Flaa.
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So there she was upset about being asked about the clothing. But here's Blake Lively in a different interview with People magazine talking about her clothing in this particular movie. That exchange with Kirstie was not about this particular movie. But here she is totally fine with talking about wardrobe in Stop 15.
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Wow. You went a different way from what Chelsea Clinton did.
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So the reason I'm showing this to the audience is that people started noticing that Blake seemed sort of bullyish to this person who has far less power and stature in the industry than Blake does. And why did she do that? It was when a woman's eight months pregnant. It is not abnormal to acknowledge it in an interview in a fun way, but. but she didn't seem to take well to it.
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Emphasis on the Billy and not the Bush. Yeah. Right?
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And the flaw responded afterwards saying that this whole thing got, you know, publicized your, your lawsuit saying she is in no way connected to any attempt to smear Blake Lively. She doesn't know the PR people involved in this. And she said as follows, I'm a journalist. This is what I do for a living. I would never accept money to jeopardize my integrity.
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I posted the video after I saw the movie and, which I didn't like. I had a bad experience with Blake Lively. At the time, I kind of had enough of Hollywood. I wasn't afraid of being canceled anymore, so I posted the video.
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So that one, which I think is the most famous example, Brian, the journalist herself is saying she had absolutely no connection to Justin Baldoni or these PR agents that we've been discussing. And is that basically your point, that... Would you say the vast majority, most, all of the negative press generated about Blake in the summer did not actually originate with this PR team?
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Yeah. I mean, not to mention Jenna. You're too nice to rip on her, but obviously she was interviewing her dad a lot. There's a track record there.
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Well, I said to her, she came to me early and when she was like, how do I get out of this thing? I said, well, listen, here's what you do. I told her about my first contract. I said, you know, they're going to want to keep milking that relationship. And you have a lot of talent. You have a wonderful personality. You can do this. You just say no. Just tell them, no, I've done it enough. That's it.
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With the under 35-year-old female demo.
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Mm-hmm. She had some problems in promoting the film. She now says that they were told, they agreed with a marketing plan that would not lean into the sadness of domestic violence, that they would lean more into the female empowerment nature of overcoming it and that therefore she didn't promote it in any way that was not on brand for what they had settled on. Mm-hmm.
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When she promoted it, she also generated a new round of bad publicity for herself. And it's discussed amongst the PR agents saying this wasn't us. This was her. Here's an example of Blake Lively being a bit too perhaps lighthearted in promoting a film about a very serious subject matter in SOP 13.
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And start doing other things. Bring other ideas to the table of things you can do. And she's done fabulously.
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So this is what this is your point, Brian, that when when she was out there talking about it, she seemed a bit too glib. She was flippant.
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So you I heard you on Tucker, by the way, and it was great. I really enjoyed that discussion because you're out promoting this new show that you're about to launch.
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because I think a lot of people may be wondering why, why would Blake Lively work so hard to wrest control of this film away from him? Like she's a rich person. She's going to get other movies. Like why would she have done this? Isn't it more plausible that she just didn't like him because of the 17 points she raised where, you know, and that there's quite a bit in there. I'll read just a couple.
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So people know what we're talking about. It turned into a 30, uh, point document that they got promises from Justin he would rectify. I'll just give a couple of examples.
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But this is what she was saying she was subjected to. In order to come back to work in January, she said, there can be no more showing nude videos or images of women, including producer's wife, to break Blake Lively or her employers. No more mention of Mr. Baldoni's or Heath's previous pornography addiction. or Blake Lively's lack of porn consumption.
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No more discussions to Blake Lively and her employees about personal experiences with sex, including as it relates to spouses. No more mentions to Blake Lively or her employees of personal times that physical consent was not given in sexual acts. No more descriptions of their own genitalia to Blake Lively, right?
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And what what I gleaned from it, Billy, is that for the first time since the whole cancellation and the viewers may remember that you got infamously canceled and just absolutely mistreated by NBC in the wake of that Access Hollywood tape with Trump breaking news. the October surprise in 2016. And you were kind of an innocent victim in all of that.
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So like all these are so ugly that it definitely leaves the reader thinking these guys are a bunch of Jerks. No wonder she hated them.
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Let me ask you about some specifics in here because I'm just going to go to the place that hurts. I'll, I'll read you the ones that jumped out at me is not good, not good. Um, page 48 of her complaint on another occasion, Mr. Baldoni and Ms. Lively were filming a slow dance scene for a montage in which no sound was recorded.
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Mr. Baldoni chose to let the camera roll and have them perform the scene, but did not act in character as Ryle, which was the name of his character and Instead, he spoke to Ms. Lively out of character as himself. At one point, he leaned forward and slowly dragged his lips from her ear and down her neck as he said, it smells so good.
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None of this was remotely in character or based on any dialogue in the script, and nothing needed to be said because, again, there was no sound. Mr. Baldoni was caressing Ms. Lively with his mouth in a way that had nothing to do with their roles. When Ms. Lively later objected to this behavior, Mr. Baldoni's response was, I'm not even attracted to you. You want to take that one on?
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And you will get a preview of who you will be messing with if you decide to mess with me. I love him. Okay. But we begin with somebody else who I just absolutely adore. Everyone knows the name Billy Bush, right? And you probably know him from Access Hollywood, you know, Extra, one of these entertainment shows where he's been beaming into your living room for over a decade now.
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But since then, my impression has been, you haven't really wanted to go there. You haven't really talked that much about it. You wrote like an op-ed, you issued one of those, you know, apologies that we all have to issue when we get pulled into these things, but you haven't been out there talking a lot about it. So why is that?
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Let's go to paragraph 52. There's a birth scene in the movie. She's the mother.
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When the birth scene was filmed, the set was chaotic, crowded, and utterly lacking in standard industry protections for filming nude scenes, such as choreographing the scene with an intimacy coordinator, having a signed nudity rider, or simply turning off the monitors so the scene was not broadcast to all crew on set and on their personal phones and iPads.
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Mr. Heath and Mr. Baldoni also failed to close the set, allowing non-essential crew to pass through, while Miss Lively was mostly nude, with her legs spread wide in stirrups and only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. Among the non-essential persons present that day was Wayfarer co-chairman Mr. Sarowitz, who flew in for one of his few set visits.
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Miss Lively was not provided with anything to cover herself. between takes until after she had multiple had made multiple requests. She became even more alarmed when Mr. Baldoni introduced his quote, best friend to play the role of the OBGYN when ordinarily a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor.
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She felt the selection of Mr. Baldoni's friend for this intimate role in which the actor's face and hands were in close proximity proximity to her nearly new genitalia for a birth scene was invasive and humiliating. Here's my note, Brian. I circled it, and this is what my note reads. Bad. Bad. That sounds bad.
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I don't know. I don't remember.
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Well, that's one of the weirdnesses of this. She had more power than he did, for sure. There's no question she had more power than he did. So the thought of her just sitting there like, oh, poor me, my genitals are exposed. I mean, it just doesn't seem characteristic. Even those interviews, you can see she's a very strong personality.
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Um, Well, I think it just, everything is timing. And it's amazing that it's eight years. I never would, because I remember after being fired in October of 2016, I mean, for two straight years, maybe two and a half, I was pulling my hair out. Why can't they? Let me back in. You've thrown little Dino out of the cave. Let me back in. I'm crying. I'm like a mess. I can't understand it.
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Now she wants us to believe she was this shrinking violet on the set being exploited by all these mean guys like Justin Baldoni. I don't know, Brian. I'm not sure whether... this'll be bought. The other thing is that I do think we should spend a minute on is you referenced it in passing, but there are allegations in here that are already falling apart.
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Like the thing about the breastfeeding on the set and how allegedly Justin and his partner Heath were barging into her trailer and watching her breastfeed and looking at her naked breasts without her consent, which would be outrageous if true, but you include in your complaint
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the following text exchange between Blake Lively and Justin, where he's acknowledging that she and her baby are sick in some way. I'm sorry, that's the last thing you needed right now. I pray it comes and goes with mild symptoms. I'm here for you anytime. Would love to check in. I know this week was a lot. I'm committed to making things run smoother. She responds, our mistake.
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Molly did get the new pages at 11 last night. She didn't realize they were new, but you can always send them to me as well, please. And then she adds... I'm just pumping in my trailer if you want to work out our lines. And he responds, copy, eating with crew, and we'll head that way. She says, take your time. And he says, I'm here. I'll meet you in hair and makeup.
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She says, okay, I'm sorry, just seeing this. So she says that. She seems to be the one saying, I'm pumping. If you want to come over, we can work out our lines. Then the other thing is that nude birth scene, which I do think we should talk about because I was creeped out by this allegation too. She alleges in her lawsuit that the partner, Heath-
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wanted to talk porn with her and she felt very uncomfortable and she was doing this birth scene and he whipped out a picture or a video of a birth scene with his wife, nude, and she felt like this is really inappropriate and uncomfortable.
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And you write in your complaint against The Times that this article, based on Lively's internal complaint, sensationally alleges that Mr. Heath had shown Lively a video of his naked wife even labeling the footage she did as pornography. This is patently absurd.
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The video in question was a non-pornographic recording of Heath's wife and baby during a home birth, a deeply personal one with no sexual overtone. To distort the benign event into an act of sexual misconduct is outrageous and emblematic of the links to which Lively and her collaborators are willing to go to defame plaintiffs. And you include a screen grab
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From the video, which I have to say, not only looks absolutely wholesome, but made me wish I had had a home birth of my own kids in a bathtub in my husband's arms. My point is simply, I'm starting to glean that this is not a truth teller on the other side.
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Mm-hmm. Well, I think it's not going to go as well as the one between you and yours truly went. Then there's the notion of her saying that Justin Baldoni called her sexy, called somebody else on the set sexy. And you've got in your complaint against the Times, a text exchange between Blake and Justin saying, in which Blake Lively raises the issue of how they can make her character look sexier.
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And she writes, uh, we'll show you both ways. It's something about a hat, but beanie is much sexier. It's the look feels TV without, and then goes on, especially with a crop top in the snow. It justifies the rest of the skin and bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. And so your point is simply, it's one thing for her in her lawsuit to say, oh my God, he's like calling her sexy.
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How could the network that raised me, how could they do this to me? This is so wrong. And I just was, it was unbearable. But then Time goes on, and I'm a consumer of stoic philosophy. There's a great book that my friend Ryan Holiday, with whom I became friends during this process, but Holiday wrote this book called The Obstacle is the Way.
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And then you see, they were discussing what would make the character look sexy. So it's like, there really are some contexts to the discussions that have been blasted all over the New York Times and this lawsuit. And I mean, my own feeling in seeing all this, Brian, is just like withhold judgment. You know, we've been doing trial by media, for years now, for years, and it doesn't work well.
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It really doesn't. No one takes the time to go through a responsive document like the one you filed. Most lawyers don't file a responsive document like you filed. They don't fight the PR war and then they lose it. So what's your prediction of where things go from here?
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Do you think Ryan Reynolds was responsible for WME, which I think is his agency that he's represented by dumping Justin?
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Finally, her lawsuit claims that she suffered too. Claims that her hair company got attacked online unfairly by bots with no followers, disparaging it. She's got a line of hair care products. That her booze company, she doesn't drink apparently, but she's got a booze company. Same. That she has been in bed, unable to function for periods of time.
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that her children, her children, that Ryan Reynolds too has suffered, that they have suffered mightily as a result of this alleged smear campaign against them in response to what you say?
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And this obstacle, this terrible thing in your life that you're trying to avoid and run away from, well, maybe it's the thing you need to go right through the middle. So I said, look, this hot mic thing, no. My mics at the new show I'm launching is called Hot Mics with Billy Bush. And there's a wink in there. But it's also look, the hot mic silenced me eight years ago.
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We will continue to watch it. Brian Friedman, so great to have you. Thank you so much for sharing so much with us.
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Likewise. We've been through quite a battle together, and I think we both emerged the better for it. I'm in your debt, as you know. the one and only Brian Friedman. He did not disappoint, right? He's a brilliant lawyer. You can see why I have him on retainer just in case anyone messes with me. And I'd love to know your thoughts on this, right? I don't, I don't really know these characters.
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It's not my, it's not my world, uh, Hollywood, but I remember seeing the videos of her last summer thinking, yeah, she sounds annoying. And I, when I read the times, uh, article outing, you know, his alleged bad, I'd never heard his name before. I have not seen the film. The thing that stood out to me was, I don't understand this because she's the one in the power position here.
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It's Blake Lively and some guy who pretty much nobody knows. And she's on the set. She's the star. How is it that she got so, you know, bullied and taken advantage of? And then they're talking about how they had meetings with Ryan Reynolds. Like, And again, he's way more powerful than anything.
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What is Justin Baldoni's interest in alienating, picking on, harassing Blake Lively and alienating her husband, Ryan Reynolds? Like, why would he do that? Now, maybe he did. Maybe he did. Maybe there's something wrong with him. There's a text in his messages where he talks about how we should talk about the fact that I'm neurodivergent. So maybe he is making excuses for bad behavior there.
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Or maybe she is especially sensitive and prone to playing the victim and wanted things just exactly the way she wanted them and decided that she wasn't treated in the way she wanted to be and she was going to make this guy pay. Because you see him almost in the fetal position in these texts over and over. Like, let's give her what she wants. Let's not upset her. Just let it happen.
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Like, he's afraid of her, you can see in these texts. Even with his text with the PR people, he is scared of her. He knows what she can do to him. And the question here is, what did he do to protect himself? He definitely talked with PR agents about protecting him. And the question is, what exactly did those PR agents do? They talked a big game.
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They did talk like big swagger and cowboys who could destroy her. Did they actually do it? That I don't see in her allegations. I see swagger, but I don't see the substance of it other than some minor things, which you would expect where they, you know, tried to get good PR going for Justin or do nice, you know, sort of messaging around the film. All that's fair game anyway.
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look, this is what I did. This is, I'm, as you know, I'm not feeling well. I was up till 2, 2 AM. This is her complaint. Look at all my notes. Okay. Then this is Justin's complaint. And these are all my notes that I just went through many of them with Brian.
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Now the hot mics are right in front of me and giving me the opportunity to present my true and authentic voice. So here we go.
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This is the timeline of all the text messaging between Justin and those two editors, his so-called dream team, which we're posting on megankelly.com. And you can look through them all yourself. Articles, packets. I'm neck deep in this weird industry that I really want nothing to do with, but it's the case everyone's been talking about. And as you know, I love Brian Friedman.
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So let me know what you think. Megan at megankelly.com. M-E-G-Y-N at megankelly.com. We are back tomorrow with the fifth column. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.
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Well, it sounds like for the first time, you're really going to talk about everything that you've been through. And I think it's very cathartic to do it. You know, I mean, I've been out there now.
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Talking to the extent I can, because, you know, I'm not saying anything about my own particular situation, but many, many people who are forced out of NBC must sign nondisclosure agreements to get the money to which they are contractually entitled. It's absolutely outrageous, frankly. But, you know, when you're talking about big dollars, you'll do it to protect your family.
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So many people are not at liberty to get fully into how NBC treated them like absolute shit. shit, but you seem to be able to do it. So how is that?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
I'd rather be you, Megan, than me because yes, I didn't get the full control. I'm ground zero. Okay. People studied me, learned from me, and then they Brian Friedman and honed their skills. So, um, I think I would have rather been paid out and sit here silently, but instead, uh, it is what it is. Who cares? Um, get a Everybody but one person. And, you know, look, it is me. It's part of my story.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And what's interesting is it's never been told. You know, when a proprietary piece of property leaks out of a major news organization and something so powerful to affect a presidential election, some of their own IP is weaponized to take out a presidential candidate. That requires or calls for at least an internal investigation.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
Forget the external, should we take a look at how this might have happened? Well, it would have ended in five seconds, so of course it was never launched.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
They knew. They did it. They knew because just as a refresher, this is the tape with Trump and Billy on the Access Hollywood bus where Trump is saying you can grab him. He's talking about Nancy O'Dell, a host a long time at NBC, saying how he wanted to wine and dine her and he once took her out furniture shopping and he really wanted to sleep with her, but it didn't work out that way.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
But there is also a reference on there to when you're a celebrity, you can grab women by the P word. And when you're a celebrity, they let you do it, which Trump would later be asked about in his deposition in the case against E. Jean Carroll. It might be my favorite clip of all time, which is really saying something. Any excuse to play this clip, I will take.
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
He hosts Extra these days, but he had a stint, long stint with NBC and a short stint with the Today Show. Before they were trying to ruin the likes of me, they were trying to ruin a genuinely good guy, Billy Bush. Why didn't I pay attention and learn?
The Megyn Kelly Show
Secrets of Disgusting Media, and Explosive New Details About Blake Lively, with Billy Bush and Bryan Freedman | Ep. 977
And here we are with the excuse right in front of us. So I will show again E. Jean Carroll's lawyer, Roberta, asking Trump about that Access Hollywood tape.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Billy Bush: The Infamous Trump Tape, Secrets of Corporate Media, & Megyn Kelly v. Harvey Weinstein
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Billy Bush: The Infamous Trump Tape, Secrets of Corporate Media, & Megyn Kelly v. Harvey Weinstein
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Billy Bush: The Infamous Trump Tape, Secrets of Corporate Media, & Megyn Kelly v. Harvey Weinstein
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The Tucker Carlson Show
Billy Bush: The Infamous Trump Tape, Secrets of Corporate Media, & Megyn Kelly v. Harvey Weinstein
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The Tucker Carlson Show
Billy Bush: The Infamous Trump Tape, Secrets of Corporate Media, & Megyn Kelly v. Harvey Weinstein
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The Tucker Carlson Show
Billy Bush: The Infamous Trump Tape, Secrets of Corporate Media, & Megyn Kelly v. Harvey Weinstein
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