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Bob Iger

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

Because you can probably then also do studies or you be more focused when you can do it at home or in a big open floor office. And you probably find you can probably be more focused when you're at home and you pick the time when you're most productive.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

in doing so so there are certain tasks we do better at home and there is a certain task we do better in the office and now we just have to figure out what is the right mix and manage that well i don't think that we need to for all the tasks that we do we need to be in person even at disney not all the tasks are like together coming up with great stories 40 hours a week

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

in doing so so there are certain tasks we do better at home and there is a certain task we do better in the office and now we just have to figure out what is the right mix and manage that well i don't think that we need to for all the tasks that we do we need to be in person even at disney not all the tasks are like together coming up with great stories 40 hours a week

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

in doing so so there are certain tasks we do better at home and there is a certain task we do better in the office and now we just have to figure out what is the right mix and manage that well i don't think that we need to for all the tasks that we do we need to be in person even at disney not all the tasks are like together coming up with great stories 40 hours a week

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

We should not think about jobs. We should think about tasks. What am I doing in a given day, on a day in a given week? And there are certain tasks that work better alone. Deep focused work. You don't get distracted. You just prepare. And you can do that whenever you're the most productive. That for some people, that's six o'clock in the morning. And for some people, that's 11 o'clock.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

We should not think about jobs. We should think about tasks. What am I doing in a given day, on a day in a given week? And there are certain tasks that work better alone. Deep focused work. You don't get distracted. You just prepare. And you can do that whenever you're the most productive. That for some people, that's six o'clock in the morning. And for some people, that's 11 o'clock.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

We should not think about jobs. We should think about tasks. What am I doing in a given day, on a day in a given week? And there are certain tasks that work better alone. Deep focused work. You don't get distracted. You just prepare. And you can do that whenever you're the most productive. That for some people, that's six o'clock in the morning. And for some people, that's 11 o'clock.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

p.m at night and some do that better in a coffee shop and some do that better in their pajamas and that's what flexibility allows there are other tasks that are better maybe together like having a brainstorming activity solving a really complicated or talking about a really sensitive issue that is probably better in person

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

p.m at night and some do that better in a coffee shop and some do that better in their pajamas and that's what flexibility allows there are other tasks that are better maybe together like having a brainstorming activity solving a really complicated or talking about a really sensitive issue that is probably better in person

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

p.m at night and some do that better in a coffee shop and some do that better in their pajamas and that's what flexibility allows there are other tasks that are better maybe together like having a brainstorming activity solving a really complicated or talking about a really sensitive issue that is probably better in person

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

Now, do we do those in-person things or that's what we're better in person, 40 hours or 50 hours a week? No. Do we do the focus work 40, 50 hours a week? No. So now we have to rethink about how can we organize a day that take advantage of we're together or we give people flexibility. And that requires a little bit of coordination because I don't want to go to the office and be on a Zoom call.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

Now, do we do those in-person things or that's what we're better in person, 40 hours or 50 hours a week? No. Do we do the focus work 40, 50 hours a week? No. So now we have to rethink about how can we organize a day that take advantage of we're together or we give people flexibility. And that requires a little bit of coordination because I don't want to go to the office and be on a Zoom call.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

Now, do we do those in-person things or that's what we're better in person, 40 hours or 50 hours a week? No. Do we do the focus work 40, 50 hours a week? No. So now we have to rethink about how can we organize a day that take advantage of we're together or we give people flexibility. And that requires a little bit of coordination because I don't want to go to the office and be on a Zoom call.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

That's my nightmare. Going to the office to be on a Zoom call is my personal nightmare. Or you go in there and it's half empty. There is nothing there. less motivating because it's like you're in a ginormous office and nobody's there. That sucks. So you want to make sure if you're there, you actually do something that is with other people together. Remote days cannot look like in-person days.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

That's my nightmare. Going to the office to be on a Zoom call is my personal nightmare. Or you go in there and it's half empty. There is nothing there. less motivating because it's like you're in a ginormous office and nobody's there. That sucks. So you want to make sure if you're there, you actually do something that is with other people together. Remote days cannot look like in-person days.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

That's my nightmare. Going to the office to be on a Zoom call is my personal nightmare. Or you go in there and it's half empty. There is nothing there. less motivating because it's like you're in a ginormous office and nobody's there. That sucks. So you want to make sure if you're there, you actually do something that is with other people together. Remote days cannot look like in-person days.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

If they look the same, Yeah, you're on Zoom calls in the office and you're in meetings which should be in person at home. And that just doesn't work. You have to actually exploit the advantages of remote and the advantages of being in the office and stack it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

If they look the same, Yeah, you're on Zoom calls in the office and you're in meetings which should be in person at home. And that just doesn't work. You have to actually exploit the advantages of remote and the advantages of being in the office and stack it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

If they look the same, Yeah, you're on Zoom calls in the office and you're in meetings which should be in person at home. And that just doesn't work. You have to actually exploit the advantages of remote and the advantages of being in the office and stack it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I actually think that most organizations will end up in hybrid. And when you look at the data, that's actually what turns out a lot of organizations doing. They don't do extremes, one or the other. And I know remote-first companies who are doing just fine.