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But still, Larry was skeptical, even suspicious that the higher-up in law enforcement, one of the targets of the investigation, might know someone in the FBI and have figured out what Larry was up to.

But still, Larry was skeptical, even suspicious that the higher-up in law enforcement, one of the targets of the investigation, might know someone in the FBI and have figured out what Larry was up to.

The OSBI agent was so interested, he called one of the sources who'd originally told Larry about these allegations, and he set up a meeting so he could interview that person. The agent said he'd keep Larry informed. So Larry waited. and waited. And nothing ever happened.

The OSBI agent was so interested, he called one of the sources who'd originally told Larry about these allegations, and he set up a meeting so he could interview that person. The agent said he'd keep Larry informed. So Larry waited. and waited. And nothing ever happened.

When we reached out to the OSBI to ask about their meeting with Larry and what they did with the information he gave them, we didn't get an answer.

When we reached out to the OSBI to ask about their meeting with Larry and what they did with the information he gave them, we didn't get an answer.

It's been more than 30 years since Larry Dellinger struck out, trying to find if there was any truth to the chatter that off-duty Oklahoma City police officers were allegedly involved in the death of Karen Silkwood. It still bothers him.

It's been more than 30 years since Larry Dellinger struck out, trying to find if there was any truth to the chatter that off-duty Oklahoma City police officers were allegedly involved in the death of Karen Silkwood. It still bothers him.

We put this theory to Steve Watka, Karen's union confidant. Remember, Steve has spent his retirement doing his own investigation into Karen's death. And this idea that Kerr-McGee was somehow responsible for her death? Steve has long been skeptical. It just doesn't make sense to him.

We put this theory to Steve Watka, Karen's union confidant. Remember, Steve has spent his retirement doing his own investigation into Karen's death. And this idea that Kerr-McGee was somehow responsible for her death? Steve has long been skeptical. It just doesn't make sense to him.

He said that if Kerr-McGee had figured out what Karen was up to, carrying those company documents out of the plant, they could have just fired her. After all, she'd stolen company property.

He said that if Kerr-McGee had figured out what Karen was up to, carrying those company documents out of the plant, they could have just fired her. After all, she'd stolen company property.

Steve is part of a small army of people who've tried to investigate this case. Law enforcement, the accident investigator A.O. Pipkin, the private investigator Joe Royer. the state trooper Larry Dellinger, Karen's son Michael Meadows. They've each carved off their own piece of this mystery and given us something to build on.

Steve is part of a small army of people who've tried to investigate this case. Law enforcement, the accident investigator A.O. Pipkin, the private investigator Joe Royer. the state trooper Larry Dellinger, Karen's son Michael Meadows. They've each carved off their own piece of this mystery and given us something to build on.

As we mentioned at the start of this episode, we've asked an accident investigator to review the case file we've gathered on Karen's accident, the new photos we took of the bumper in New Mexico, law enforcement reports, and A.O. Pipkin's original investigation materials, his photos, diagrams, and measurements of the crash site.

As we mentioned at the start of this episode, we've asked an accident investigator to review the case file we've gathered on Karen's accident, the new photos we took of the bumper in New Mexico, law enforcement reports, and A.O. Pipkin's original investigation materials, his photos, diagrams, and measurements of the crash site.

After weeks of waiting and wondering, praying, hoping that he'd be able to make the deadline for our final episode, we finally got the call that he was ready to talk.

After weeks of waiting and wondering, praying, hoping that he'd be able to make the deadline for our final episode, we finally got the call that he was ready to talk.

Radioactive, The Karen Silkwood Mystery, is a production of ABC Audio in collaboration with Standing Bear Entertainment. I'm Mike Boettcher. My co-host Bob Sands and I served as consulting producers on this podcast along with Brent Donis. Thanks to the ABC News investigative unit and investigative producer Jenny Wagnon-Kortz.

Radioactive, The Karen Silkwood Mystery, is a production of ABC Audio in collaboration with Standing Bear Entertainment. I'm Mike Boettcher. My co-host Bob Sands and I served as consulting producers on this podcast along with Brent Donis. Thanks to the ABC News investigative unit and investigative producer Jenny Wagnon-Kortz.