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Brad Gerstner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2793 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

Good.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

Come on.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

No seriousness.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

But what makes you bullish, let's say, in the next six months, 12 months, catalysts?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

And then what do you think the headwinds are as well?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

Let's take the short to midterm, six months to two years.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

I think that in the short term, the people that makes the new thing

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

needs to get valued and needs to demonstrate value.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

So who are the people making the new thing?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

It's the NVIDIAs, it's the memory makers, it's the anthropics, it's the SpaceXs, and it's the opening eyes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

But eventually it all comes home to roost.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

And you can't just make things for a market who then doesn't have a measurable benefit themselves.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

To be very clear and blunt, there is literally not a scintilla of evidence that AI has helped lift the operating margins of the S&P 500.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

There's all kinds of bluster.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

There's going to be an important fork in the road.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

It's probably two or three years from now.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

One path will be OPEX shrinks, hence margins increase.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

And the other path is revenues grow and margins expand and OPEX stays flat or maybe it even goes up.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

Those two things are very important differences because in the former, you're talking about shrinking workforce and shrinking OPEX as a percentage of operating margin and revenue.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon's Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, "FDA for AI" Panic, Trading the AI Boom

In the latter, you're actually growing through it.