Brad Gerstner

emotional like his his entire emotional mindset was tied to open source like he believes in it and wants to support it so that's i think that's an important backdrop so i don't think china got there um in some calculated way or do i think it was some recent move i think

emotional like his his entire emotional mindset was tied to open source like he believes in it and wants to support it so that's i think that's an important backdrop so i don't think china got there um in some calculated way or do i think it was some recent move i think

they embraced open source over a decade ago because it made a ton of sense for them in a world that had pointed a finger at them from an IP standpoint.

they embraced open source over a decade ago because it made a ton of sense for them in a world that had pointed a finger at them from an IP standpoint.

they embraced open source over a decade ago because it made a ton of sense for them in a world that had pointed a finger at them from an IP standpoint.

Right, but I think that discussion happened a long time ago. Like, it wasn't recent.

Right, but I think that discussion happened a long time ago. Like, it wasn't recent.

Right, but I think that discussion happened a long time ago. Like, it wasn't recent.

Another thing that I think people have to remember is that also within the past decade— And maybe 15 years, many U.S. companies have learned to use open source as a defensive tool rather than just an offensive tool. And this is a more. Yeah. So this is the biggest companies out there.

Another thing that I think people have to remember is that also within the past decade— And maybe 15 years, many U.S. companies have learned to use open source as a defensive tool rather than just an offensive tool. And this is a more. Yeah. So this is the biggest companies out there.

Another thing that I think people have to remember is that also within the past decade— And maybe 15 years, many U.S. companies have learned to use open source as a defensive tool rather than just an offensive tool. And this is a more. Yeah. So this is the biggest companies out there.

If they get in a position where they feel like they're behind the eight balls, so they're not in a leadership position, they will embrace open source as an attempt to level the playing field. And a great example is Kubernetes. So Amazon took this huge lead with AWS in the hosted server business. Everyone was afraid of that.

If they get in a position where they feel like they're behind the eight balls, so they're not in a leadership position, they will embrace open source as an attempt to level the playing field. And a great example is Kubernetes. So Amazon took this huge lead with AWS in the hosted server business. Everyone was afraid of that.

If they get in a position where they feel like they're behind the eight balls, so they're not in a leadership position, they will embrace open source as an attempt to level the playing field. And a great example is Kubernetes. So Amazon took this huge lead with AWS in the hosted server business. Everyone was afraid of that.

Google had a piece of technology called Kubernetes that was orchestration that would allow you to move a workload if that became a standard from one large server vendor to another, right? It basically created ease of distribution so you could run on multiple clouds.

Google had a piece of technology called Kubernetes that was orchestration that would allow you to move a workload if that became a standard from one large server vendor to another, right? It basically created ease of distribution so you could run on multiple clouds.

Google had a piece of technology called Kubernetes that was orchestration that would allow you to move a workload if that became a standard from one large server vendor to another, right? It basically created ease of distribution so you could run on multiple clouds.

They went to the Linux Foundation, they recruited IBM, a whole bunch of other people, got everyone behind it, and it gained so much momentum that Amazon had to embrace Kubernetes. So it worked, and we don't have a monopolist in that cloud business right now. Perhaps because of that deft move made by Google. But they did it with Android against Apple, being notable.

They went to the Linux Foundation, they recruited IBM, a whole bunch of other people, got everyone behind it, and it gained so much momentum that Amazon had to embrace Kubernetes. So it worked, and we don't have a monopolist in that cloud business right now. Perhaps because of that deft move made by Google. But they did it with Android against Apple, being notable.

They went to the Linux Foundation, they recruited IBM, a whole bunch of other people, got everyone behind it, and it gained so much momentum that Amazon had to embrace Kubernetes. So it worked, and we don't have a monopolist in that cloud business right now. Perhaps because of that deft move made by Google. But they did it with Android against Apple, being notable.