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Bradley Tusk

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TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So let me ask you a question.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

How many of you do your banking, your healthcare on your phones?

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Right, of course you do.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

How about your love life, your entertainment, travel planning, all that kind of stuff?

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Right?

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

How many of you vote on your phones?

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

That's the problem.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So I spent the first 15 years of my career working in US government and politics.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

City government, state government, federal government, you name it, I saw it from pretty much every angle.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And the main thing that I took away from it, really more than anything else, is why politicians make the decisions they make.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Is it based on what they believe in?

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

No.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Is it what's best for their city or their state or their country?

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Not really.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

How about what's best for their constituents specifically?

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Not even that.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

It's actually a lot simpler.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Virtually every politician makes every decision solely based on winning the next election and nothing else.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And that's true for the next election and then the next election after that.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And it's a problem in democracies all over the world, but it's especially pervasive in the United States because we have this corrupt practice known as gerrymandering.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And what that allows the two political parties to do is divvy up all the legislative districts so that as a result, the only election that ever really matters is the party primary.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Now, we had a big election last fall.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

You guys might have heard something about it.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And in that election, about two-thirds of Americans voted, but that was for precedent.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

I live in New York City.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

In 2023, we had city council primaries.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Turnout was 7.2 percent.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So I don't know if you guys have ever been to New York, but if you have, you will know we are not a shy people.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And yet, in this city of 8.5 million highly opinionated people,

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

you could win a council seat with just 8,000 votes.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And the same thing is true in state legislative races, congressional, mayoral, you name it, and it's true everywhere.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So who are those voters?

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

They're typically the far right or the far left or special interests that know how to move money and votes in low-turnout elections.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

they dictate not only who wins office, but then what happens once they're in office.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And that gets us one of two types of government.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Either the chaos and dysfunction that we call Washington, D.C.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

or totally one-sided governments, whether it's the state of Texas on the right or the city of San Francisco on the left.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And if we were truly hopelessly divided, if we just couldn't agree on any issue, that'd be one thing.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

But we're not.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Most people agree on the solutions to most issues, whether it's education or health care or climate or taxes or ... Let's take guns as an example.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

The vast majority of Americans would say that we should neither confiscate everyone's guns, but nor should it be easy to walk into a store and walk out with an assault rifle.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

But the problem is, those Americans, the people in the center, the people in the middle, they don't vote in primaries.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So politicians ignore their views and cater only to the extremes.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And when the next school shooting happens, and it will happen, all of us are going to bang our heads against the wall and say, why can't our politicians just do the right thing for once?

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Why?

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

I'll tell you why.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Because they're held hostage by the extremes.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

They're stuck.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We have to free them from their clutches.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We have to make it possible for them to move back to the middle.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And the only way to do that is to get a lot more people voting, and the only way to do that is to meet the people where they are, on their phones.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

About a decade or so ago, I helped run a lot of the campaigns around the US to legalize Uber.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And I know that now, when you guys think of Uber, it's this giant corporation, but back then, we were a tiny little tech startup, and taxi was this big, politically powerful industry who really didn't like us.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And we knew we couldn't out-muscle them, and so instead, we turned to the people.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And by making it possible for our customers to tell their elected officials, hey, I like this Uber thing, please leave it alone, we were able to mobilize millions of people through the app to advocate on our behalf.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And when mayors and city council members started hearing from thousands of their constituents, that's exactly what they did.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

They left Uber alone.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

That's how we won in basically every market in the country.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And while this was happening, I just remember sitting there thinking, God bless these people, they're making my job a lot easier, but my guess is they don't know who their city council member is, they don't vote in state senate primaries, and you know, why would they?

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

They're busy, they have kids, they have jobs, they have lives.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

But when we made it really easy, when we let people reach their politicians directly from their phones, everything changed.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So what if we could vote this way?

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So in 2017, we created the Mobile Voting Project, and the first thing we did was work with election officials in seven states, red and blue, where either deployed military or people with disabilities were able to vote in real elections on their phones.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

soldiers from West Virginia stationed in Afghanistan, people who were blind in Denver.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

In one election in Seattle, we let everyone participate, and after doing it for two years in a row, turnout tripled.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Denver did a poll of those who participated in their election, and 100 percent, so every single respondent, said, yeah, I like pressing a button better than having to go somewhere.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Shocking, right?

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

In other big news, water is wet and ice cream tastes good.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

But that was for specific groups of voters, and we wanted everyone to be able to vote securely on their phones.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So four years ago, we started building our own mobile voting technology.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We're almost done, we're going to finish it this summer, and when we do, it's going to be free and open source to any government in the world that wants to use it.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And to be clear, this is just an additional way to vote.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

If you like voting by mail, vote by mail.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

If you like voting in person, great, do that.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Some people really like the ceremony that comes with going somewhere and waiting in line and all that, and if that happens to be you, knock yourself out.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

But based on turnout, that's not most of you.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So let's give people another option.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So as I mentioned before, and you can probably tell from my accent, I'm from New York, so I'm going to use that as the example for how it works.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

I go on the App Store and I download the New York City Board of Elections app.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And the first thing they do is say, OK, is Bradley really a registered voter here in New York City?

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

I put in my address, fine.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Next thing is multifactor authentication.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

So you know how, like, when you forget your Google password, they send you a code and you put it back into the app?

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Same thing here.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Then we take a scan of your face, match that up against your government ID, and at this point, we've fully established, OK, Bradley is really Bradley.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Ballot pops up on my screen, and the ballot itself is simple and easy to use, and I go through it, I take my time, no rush.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Whenever I'm ready, I hit submit.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And when I hit submit, three things happen.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

First, my ballot is encrypted.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Second, it's anonymized.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Third, I get a tracking code, like if it were a FedEx package, so I can track the progress of my ballot all the way through the process.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

then it goes back to the New York City Board of Elections and they air gap it, which means they take it offline.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And once my ballot is no longer connected to the internet, then they decrypt it, a paper copy is printed out, that gets mixed in with all of the other ballots.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

I know where my ballot stands because I can see from the tracking code that it was received, tabulated, printed and so on.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And the underlying code itself is open source, which means that anyone can audit it,

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Anyone can verify it, it's totally transparent.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

To me, that's a lot more secure than the way we vote right now.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And we've already built it, we've already paid for it, and we're giving it away to anyone who wants to use it for free.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And with a little more work, I think we could do even more.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We could register people to vote on the app.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We could give voters nonpartisan information about candidates or ballot measures, so you actually know what you're voting on.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And versions of this already do exist.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Mobile voting, in a way, exists in Estonia.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

They use it in party elections in the UK.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Some municipalities here in Canada use it.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

but not in the US and not in most democracies.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And that's where the hard part really kicks in.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Getting politicians to let us use our phones to vote in elections, because in my experience, people in power don't like making it easier for other people to gain power.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And that's ... Yeah, exactly.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And that's why I'm here, because they're not just going to do it if I ask nicely.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

They're not just going to do it if I snarl at the Libertarians on X or at the Liberals on Blue Sky.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

They're only going to do it if you make it happen, if we all make it happen.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And we can.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Every major right that has ever been won anywhere, the right to vote, the Civil Rights Act, the Americans with Disabilities Act, same-sex marriage, anything, has only happened because enough people stood up loud enough and long enough and demanded their rights, and eventually the status quo had to give in.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

And we can do that here, too.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We can make voting easier and a lot more secure.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We can bring regular people back into the process.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We can take power away from the extremes.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We can end the dysfunction and polarization that plagues our society today.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We can give our politicians the cover and the courage they need to work together and to finally, finally get things done.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We can do all of this in the next 10 years.

TED Talks Daily
Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

We can do it with mobile voting.

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Why you should be able to vote on your phone | Bradley Tusk

Thank you.