Cam Holmes

I was like, it's definitely working. I did it and I was like, yep, working.

labour would be by the way like you just crazy like no one actually prepares you well sorry I was gonna say the things because obviously we had we had the podcast which kind of was preparing us for pregnancy we had all these um like doonas we had experts like midwives come on and I think what you said is nothing can prepare you for when it happens it's just like yeah everything goes I mean everything you've learned just you're like no I just need to survive um so I think we're into like hour 20 by now something like crazy like that more than that babe

labour would be by the way like you just crazy like no one actually prepares you well sorry I was gonna say the things because obviously we had we had the podcast which kind of was preparing us for pregnancy we had all these um like doonas we had experts like midwives come on and I think what you said is nothing can prepare you for when it happens it's just like yeah everything goes I mean everything you've learned just you're like no I just need to survive um so I think we're into like hour 20 by now something like crazy like that more than that babe

labour would be by the way like you just crazy like no one actually prepares you well sorry I was gonna say the things because obviously we had we had the podcast which kind of was preparing us for pregnancy we had all these um like doonas we had experts like midwives come on and I think what you said is nothing can prepare you for when it happens it's just like yeah everything goes I mean everything you've learned just you're like no I just need to survive um so I think we're into like hour 20 by now something like crazy like that more than that babe

No, we found out after where he was lodged. It didn't tell us at the time, but where he was kind of lodged down, Reggie's head was kind of stuck. I think that's what was causing him that pain. Because essentially, Em's body, from what they told me in the reports, Em's body was trying to push him out, but something was stopping him. So you were constantly just stuck in that weird state of life.

No, we found out after where he was lodged. It didn't tell us at the time, but where he was kind of lodged down, Reggie's head was kind of stuck. I think that's what was causing him that pain. Because essentially, Em's body, from what they told me in the reports, Em's body was trying to push him out, but something was stopping him. So you were constantly just stuck in that weird state of life.

No, we found out after where he was lodged. It didn't tell us at the time, but where he was kind of lodged down, Reggie's head was kind of stuck. I think that's what was causing him that pain. Because essentially, Em's body, from what they told me in the reports, Em's body was trying to push him out, but something was stopping him. So you were constantly just stuck in that weird state of life.

Oh, it was horrible. Like for me, I was just trying to be as like strong. I wanted to be like her rock. So I didn't show any emotion when I was with her, but I'd go out in the corridor, ring my mum and just cry my eyes out. I'm an emotional kid, very sensitive. So I was just trying to keep it all together for her because I was like, I need to show strength for her. But I was just, I was in bits.

Oh, it was horrible. Like for me, I was just trying to be as like strong. I wanted to be like her rock. So I didn't show any emotion when I was with her, but I'd go out in the corridor, ring my mum and just cry my eyes out. I'm an emotional kid, very sensitive. So I was just trying to keep it all together for her because I was like, I need to show strength for her. But I was just, I was in bits.

Oh, it was horrible. Like for me, I was just trying to be as like strong. I wanted to be like her rock. So I didn't show any emotion when I was with her, but I'd go out in the corridor, ring my mum and just cry my eyes out. I'm an emotional kid, very sensitive. So I was just trying to keep it all together for her because I was like, I need to show strength for her. But I was just, I was in bits.

Just seeing her in that much pain, I've never ever like...

Just seeing her in that much pain, I've never ever like...

Just seeing her in that much pain, I've never ever like...

like this um so you had to do some breath work with me like i've never done breath work before that was like my thoughts i do breath work a lot on myself so i was like right we're gonna do some breath work um and eventually you calm down but that that was horrible yeah because like and then there's one thing that i've had loads of panic attacks just over the years and i know how to deal with them myself when someone you love's having one you're like i just i just want to take everything away from it i would i generally would have taken all that pain away from it and i would have had it on myself yeah um but yeah it was just but it's so weird how oh look on karen karen

like this um so you had to do some breath work with me like i've never done breath work before that was like my thoughts i do breath work a lot on myself so i was like right we're gonna do some breath work um and eventually you calm down but that that was horrible yeah because like and then there's one thing that i've had loads of panic attacks just over the years and i know how to deal with them myself when someone you love's having one you're like i just i just want to take everything away from it i would i generally would have taken all that pain away from it and i would have had it on myself yeah um but yeah it was just but it's so weird how oh look on karen karen

like this um so you had to do some breath work with me like i've never done breath work before that was like my thoughts i do breath work a lot on myself so i was like right we're gonna do some breath work um and eventually you calm down but that that was horrible yeah because like and then there's one thing that i've had loads of panic attacks just over the years and i know how to deal with them myself when someone you love's having one you're like i just i just want to take everything away from it i would i generally would have taken all that pain away from it and i would have had it on myself yeah um but yeah it was just but it's so weird how oh look on karen karen

Yeah, it didn't really end there. And that's when they said, I was saying earlier about men not being able to stay. That's when they turned to me and they said, oh, you can't.

Yeah, it didn't really end there. And that's when they said, I was saying earlier about men not being able to stay. That's when they turned to me and they said, oh, you can't.

Yeah, it didn't really end there. And that's when they said, I was saying earlier about men not being able to stay. That's when they turned to me and they said, oh, you can't.

They said, you can't stay. And I said, at no point am I leaving her alone. One, like she can't even look after herself right now, let alone a baby. She's a new mum.