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Chamath

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

Well, it was Bloomberg. It's not some article. It was Bloomberg, and it got a lot of traction, and it was re-reported by a lot of places, and I don't see anyone disputing it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

When we can do a good bit, yeah. That's mine. No, I think that Bloomberg reported it based on, obviously, talks that are ongoing with investors who have committed to this round. And no one's disputing it. Has anyone said it's not true?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

When we can do a good bit, yeah. That's mine. No, I think that Bloomberg reported it based on, obviously, talks that are ongoing with investors who have committed to this round. And no one's disputing it. Has anyone said it's not true?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

No, I saw a comment. Somebody commented like, oh, wow, it's like amazing to hear Chamath expand on topics throughout the constant eruptions by J-Cal.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

No, I saw a comment. Somebody commented like, oh, wow, it's like amazing to hear Chamath expand on topics throughout the constant eruptions by J-Cal.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

Well, you have to go back pretty far for Joe Rogan to be a nobody. I mean, he had a TV show for a long time.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

Well, you have to go back pretty far for Joe Rogan to be a nobody. I mean, he had a TV show for a long time.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

He was more like a stand-up comic for a while. He was a stand-up comic. Stand-up comic, yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

He was more like a stand-up comic for a while. He was a stand-up comic. Stand-up comic, yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

Well, why don't we get into the topic?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

Well, why don't we get into the topic?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

Sam Altman is reportedly... I thought they're converting to a C-Corp, no?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

Sam Altman is reportedly... I thought they're converting to a C-Corp, no?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

B-Corp doesn't really mean anything.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

B-Corp doesn't really mean anything.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

Well, so the whisper numbers I heard was that their revenue run rate for this year was in the $4 to $6 billion range, which is a little higher than that. So you're right, if it's really more like 3.4, this valuation is about 50 times current revenue. But if it's more like 5 billion, then it's only 30 times. And if it's growing 100% year over year, it's only 15 times next year.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

Well, so the whisper numbers I heard was that their revenue run rate for this year was in the $4 to $6 billion range, which is a little higher than that. So you're right, if it's really more like 3.4, this valuation is about 50 times current revenue. But if it's more like 5 billion, then it's only 30 times. And if it's growing 100% year over year, it's only 15 times next year.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

So depending what the numbers actually are, the $150 billion valuation could be warranted. I don't think 15 times... Ford, ARR is a high valuation for a company that has this kind of strategic opportunity. I think it all comes down to the durability of its comparative advantage here. I think there's no question that OpenAI is the leader of the pack. It has the most advanced AI models.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

So depending what the numbers actually are, the $150 billion valuation could be warranted. I don't think 15 times... Ford, ARR is a high valuation for a company that has this kind of strategic opportunity. I think it all comes down to the durability of its comparative advantage here. I think there's no question that OpenAI is the leader of the pack. It has the most advanced AI models.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI's $150B conversion, Meta's AR glasses, Blue-collar boom, Risk of nuclear war

It's got the best developer ecosystem, the best APIs. It keeps rolling out new products. And the question is just how durable that